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hobbesmaster posted:all I know is that if you see === you're using the wrong language wrong, verilog has === for case equality (equality including x and z, could evaluate to true with x===x or z===z) where == is only logical equality (any x or z value will make evaluate to false)
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C.H.O.M.E posted:wrong, verilog has === for case equality (equality including x and z, could evaluate to true with x===x or z===z) where == is only logical equality (any x or z value will make evaluate to false) ok so there is more than one case but you're still using the wrong language
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May 31, 2017 13:42
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oof, i forgot background checks (aka the form of out yourself a million times) were a thing.
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May 31, 2017 14:10
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cis autodrag posted:oof, i forgot background checks (aka the form of out yourself a million times) were a thing. unless you have a criminal record or some other indicators of very bad judgement (evictions, expulsions) or you just flat out lied about your work background you have nothing to worry about. nobody cares about your lifestyle
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May 31, 2017 14:24
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Bloody posted:but hey someone has to make lovely code and lovely systems for consultants to come in and clean up later for 10x the cost 
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May 31, 2017 14:33
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C.H.O.M.E posted:wrong, verilog has === for case equality (equality including x and z, could evaluate to true with x===x or z===z) where == is only logical equality (any x or z value will make evaluate to false) I stand by my statement
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May 31, 2017 14:36
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DuckConference posted:a guy asked for salary right during the first interview, which I wasn't expected. I rambled a bit but he wanted a number (he's clearly done this more times than I have) so I just blurted out my current salary + 15% as what I make now. If somebody demands salary it's always your current salary + 50%. That leaves room for negotiation.
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May 31, 2017 15:01
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hobbesmaster posted:I stand by my statement what HDL am I going to program in? System C? lol. VHDL? quadruple lol.
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May 31, 2017 15:01
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cis autodrag posted:oof, i forgot background checks (aka the form of out yourself a million times) were a thing. if you could prove apple discriminated against you it would be $$$$
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May 31, 2017 15:09
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it's not about discrimination. it's about my right to control my disclosure. it is extremely hosed up for someone else to out you without your permission, or to require outing yourself as a condition of employment. i don't really expect that to make sense to anyone here, but half the reason i need a new job is people at work were not being respectful and i had no control over my environment anymore.
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May 31, 2017 15:12
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cis autodrag posted:it's not about discrimination. it's about my right to control my disclosure. it is extremely hosed up for someone else to out you without your permission, or to require outing yourself as a condition of employment. i don't really expect that to make sense to anyone here, but half the reason i need a new job is people at work were not being respectful and i had no control over my environment anymore. Yeah having to do that as a condition of employment sound like a big pile of BS to deal with. Genuinely just curious, I'm wondering how a background check outs you? All I remember having to do for my background check for my current job is to consent to it and show up to the drug test. Is it that your old name shows up when they do it so you have to tell them beforehand?
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May 31, 2017 15:42
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ThePeavstenator posted:Yeah having to do that as a condition of employment sound like a big pile of BS to deal with. it's this. to verify that i attended schools or had old jobs they need the name i had at that time because most of those places won't update your info in their records if you don't currently attend/work there. this means the background check form is fuckin' plastered with my deadname since i transitioned while in my current job. i contacted the company that does the checks to ask if the report they gave apple would just be the institutions + a note that they verified i went there and they told me that apple would get everything that was entered onto the form and that if i didn't disclose my deadname they'd just call me to get it when they contacted those institutions and add it to the form anyway. so ya basically i am not allowed to just live my life as me and have a job. my trans status will define my relationship with my employer from day 1.
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May 31, 2017 15:49
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i probably shouldn't but i do assume that a workplace as large and put together as apple would isolate that information to HR without it crossing into hiring managers and team members. if not, that's very poor practice on their part.
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May 31, 2017 15:55
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for a slightly disingenuous e.g., (please note that sexual orientation and gender identity ARE NOT the same thing, i'm just being disingenuous), people would be fuckin mad if a background check form said "were you a homosexual at the time you attended this institution?" but because there's non-trans reasons to change your name it's really hard to get people to think critically about situations in which it might not be ok for name-change information to be transmitted in certain contexts.
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May 31, 2017 15:56
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cis autodrag posted:it's this. to verify that i attended schools or had old jobs they need the name i had at that time because most of those places won't update your info in their records if you don't currently attend/work there. this means the background check form is fuckin' plastered with my deadname since i transitioned while in my current job. i contacted the company that does the checks to ask if the report they gave apple would just be the institutions + a note that they verified i went there and they told me that apple would get everything that was entered onto the form and that if i didn't disclose my deadname they'd just call me to get it when they contacted those institutions and add it to the form anyway. That really sucks, Apple is a big company at least though right? Isn't it basically HR's job to keep issues like this private? Will they tell your former name and trans status to the team you'll actually be working with? Or will they just say "here is ur new coworker <cis autodrag>"
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^^i assume they'll keep it private, but consider things like how if hr knows that im trans then people in hr may instantly make assumptions about what im doing if i, say, take fmla to have gender confirmation surgery. just by them knowing im trans they then later have the ability to deduce really private stuff that i wouldnt choose to share with them.Diva Cupcake posted:i probably shouldn't but i do assume that a workplace as large and put together as apple would isolate that information to HR without it crossing into hiring managers and team members. if not, that's very poor practice on their part. i would assume that too, but just the knowledge that people know can really interfere with your ability to just live your life. like i said, it's probably really hard to understand if you're not trans, but just the awareness that you don't really know who around you knows can be a pretty huge stressor. i'm only so open online because its pretty hard to put that cat back in the bag now. i didnt realize when i first transitioned just how violently some segments of the internet would react to it.
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May 31, 2017 15:58
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cis autodrag posted:it's this. to verify that i attended schools or had old jobs they need the name i had at that time because most of those places won't update your info in their records if you don't currently attend/work there. this means the background check form is fuckin' plastered with my deadname since i transitioned while in my current job. i contacted the company that does the checks to ask if the report they gave apple would just be the institutions + a note that they verified i went there and they told me that apple would get everything that was entered onto the form and that if i didn't disclose my deadname they'd just call me to get it when they contacted those institutions and add it to the form anyway. That blows maximum rear end and I hope that in some future socialist revolution we create laws that require employers and educational institutions to retroactively change names in records when requested for this very reason.
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May 31, 2017 15:59
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ThePeavstenator posted:That blows maximum rear end and I hope that in some future socialist revolution we create laws that require employers and educational institutions to retroactively change names in records when requested for this very reason. it would be easier to just regulate background checks at all so that they would just send verification and not whatever random details they used to do the verification. after all, it shouldn't be my responsibility to have to call every single place in the world that may have written my name down at any point just because i transitioned. it took over a year just to get the essential stuff like degrees, local utilities, mortgage, etc updated. my water bill still shows up with a typoed version of my deadname because the water utility is incompetent.
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That really sucks. I guess I shouldn't be so irritated by having to piss in a cup / having my credit checked for figgies.
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in a very shaggar voice: a national id system would fix this because then they'd all just have your citizen id number
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May 31, 2017 16:20
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cis autodrag posted:in a very shaggar voice: a national id system would fix this because then they'd all just have your citizen id number
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cis autodrag posted:in a very shaggar voice: a national id system would fix this because then they'd all just have your citizen id number was litterrally thinking about this. ultimately tho the problem is someone wants to know why your name changed and they might not realize its a sensitive topic until they discover why it changed.
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cis autodrag posted:^^i assume they'll keep it private, but consider things like how if hr knows that im trans then people in hr may instantly make assumptions about what im doing if i, say, take fmla to have gender confirmation surgery. just by them knowing im trans they then later have the ability to deduce really private stuff that i wouldnt choose to share with them. Apple has 115,000 employees and every one has to get background checks. hr isn't going to remember a thing yes I'm including retail because they get background checks too.
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cis autodrag posted:it would be easier to just regulate background checks at all so that they would just send verification and not whatever random details they used to do the verification. after all, it shouldn't be my responsibility to have to call every single place in the world that may have written my name down at any point just because i transitioned. it took over a year just to get the essential stuff like degrees, local utilities, mortgage, etc updated. my water bill still shows up with a typoed version of my deadname because the water utility is incompetent. Yeah that would probably be a better way to do it. Iverron posted:That really sucks. I'd still say having to piss in a cup is BS. My current job does loving hair tests for new hires (or did, apparently they switched to pee recently because too many
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fun story, here in wisconsin when you legally change your name you have to run an ad in your local paper for three weeks stating your old and new names and that you are changing it. i assume this has something to do with people in 1894 changing names to avoid debts but it's fuckin' onerous nowadays.
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ThePeavstenator posted:Yeah that would probably be a better way to do it. drug tests are loving bullshit. one of the lone good hr policies epic has is that they do not drug test, period. our vp laughed in a catholic hospital ceo's face when he asked if we would drug test staff we send on site.
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cis autodrag posted:fun story, here in wisconsin when you legally change your name you have to run an ad in your local paper for three weeks stating your old and new names and that you are changing it. i assume this has something to do with people in 1894 changing names to avoid debts but it's fuckin' onerous nowadays. 
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i bought a copy with my ad in it and then burned it. it felt really good.
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cis autodrag posted:fun story, here in wisconsin when you legally change your name you have to run an ad in your local paper for three weeks stating your old and new names and that you are changing it. i assume this has something to do with people in 1894 changing names to avoid debts but it's fuckin' onerous nowadays. wow that sounds like it could create some problems I'm sure our state legislature could take this outdated law off the AHAHAHA This state used to be good when it wasn't ran by people actively trying to make it lovely and I'm glad for you that you're getting out of here.
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i had to deal with these motherfuckers who did the background checks for my current gig not only is it invasive as gently caress (they ask for paystubs/W2s if they can verify employers, but technically everything they ask for is optional/requires your consent), its all outsourced to the philippines to the most robotic, process oriented drones imaginable my background check got held up for weeks because a specific department that handles verifications for large companies using an automated process couldn't figure out how to do it or something this poo poo is getting out of control
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i have a phone interview on friday. i'm not sure if i really want the job but the recruiter is the same one that got me my current job and the figgies are good so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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ThePeavstenator posted:wow that sounds like it could create some problems I'm sure our state legislature could take this outdated law off the AHAHAHA oh wisconsin has all sorts of hella lovely stuff but i think i turned this into the "bitch about my personal situation" thread too much already. but like, hell, what if a person leaves their spouse because of abuse and then legally changes their name so their spouse can't track them down? that's impossible in wisconsin because the spouse can just read the newspaper.
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mishaq posted:i had to deal with these motherfuckers who did the background checks for my current gig holy poo poo, the fact that it's outsourced to the phillipines is terrifying.
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mishaq posted:i had to deal with these motherfuckers who did the background checks for my current gig if you do business with the federal government they require you ensure your employees aren't banned from doing business with the government for reasons of terrorisms, medicare fraud, etc... if you fail to check this properly including aliases ur theoretically in deep poo poo if they find out.
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cis autodrag posted:holy poo poo, the fact that it's outsourced to the phillipines is terrifying. why?
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that's really hosed up, the background check company is supposed to just go "yes they definitely touched the computer they gucci" idk if you want to go through the turmoil to complain about it to hr though
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Elder Postsman posted:i have a phone interview on friday. i'm not sure if i really want the job but the recruiter is the same one that got me my current job and the figgies are good so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Diva Cupcake posted:these are the best phone interviews to take because you're not particularly invested or nervous and you can make +50% figgie demands without blinking. yep. and you can be all full of yourself because you don't care
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