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EvilJoven posted:Mulcair could have won a majority if he hadn't morphed from Angry Tom to Creepy Overly Agreeable Centrist Tom between when the writ was dropped and the vote was cast, while we all watched in horror. Dips gonna Dip, bro.
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leftist heap posted:Mulcair was a much stronger leader than freaking Stephane Dion, christ. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOXqGHvp8MI this compared to yesterday's Horgan/Weaver presser, my god
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Landsknecht posted:Scheer isn't a bad choice He's a social conservative therefore a literal piece of poo poo therefore yes he was a bad choice.
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May 31, 2017 20:21
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Anyone know of any good resources on how multi-member districts would be formed under a PR system? It seems like it would especially prone to good ol' Yankee gerrymandering.
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May 31, 2017 20:23
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PT6A posted:And yet neither were good choices. Who did or would you have voted for then? Brian Topp? Nathan Cullen? Peggy Nash? Niki Ashton?
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May 31, 2017 20:24
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So how is everyone feeling about that minimum wage increase in Ontario? My Facebook collection of regressive Renfrew county morons has been having a field day screaming about economic doom. Because naturally one of the shittiest, poorest counties in the province is clearly against a pay raise. The sooner the old geriatrics die off and the county population collapses the better
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May 31, 2017 20:38
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gently caress any business that can't afford to pay it's workers 15 dollars an hour
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May 31, 2017 20:41
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Someone's not happy about the NDP-Green dealquote:Let's burn this loving failure of a country to the mother loving ground so that it can finally be rebuilt.
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DariusLikewise posted:gently caress any business that can't afford to pay it's workers 15 dollars an hour $15 canadian, even, $11.11 USD.
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the trump tutelage posted:Anyone know of any good resources on how multi-member districts would be formed under a PR system? It seems like it would especially prone to good ol' Yankee gerrymandering. The parliamentary committee talked all about this in the report. There are some complex ways of doing it, relatively simple ways of doing it (huge multimember districts for complete urban areas, separate balancing for rural areas), and ways you don't have to bother with it at all (MMP). e: Oh you're talking about BC, rather than Federally. PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 21:10 on May 31, 2017 |
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Arcsquad12 posted:So how is everyone feeling about that minimum wage increase in Ontario? My Facebook collection of regressive Renfrew county morons has been having a field day screaming about economic doom. Because naturally one of the shittiest, poorest counties in the province is clearly against a pay raise. The sooner the old geriatrics die off and the county population collapses the better Been reading the reactions from the friends-of-friends from back in Hamilton, and it's pretty much the same. Just ranting about how they went to Mohawk and trained in whatever so that they could make $18 to $20 an hour, so how dare these fry cooks think they deserve nearly as much? FYGM at its finest. At least, that's what I thought they were saying - the bunch of waterheads can barely loving spell. St. Dogbert fucked around with this message at 21:09 on May 31, 2017 |
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May 31, 2017 20:58
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Funkdreamer posted:Someone's not happy about the NDP-Green deal lol Please Alberta separate so we don't have to listen to your whiny bullshit anymore. Also good luck negotiating pipelines when you're an independent country instead of a province.
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PK loving SUBBAN posted:lol Please Alberta separate so we don't have to listen to your whiny bullshit anymore. Seriously. Alberta, shut up, you petulant hicks.
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May 31, 2017 21:05
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 all that nonexistent LNG money
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If anything, multimember districts would be harder to gerrymander than single member districts. Gerrymandering works because the margin of victory/loss doesn't matter. The more those votes get redistributed in some way, the less you can leverage the effect. I doubt we're talking just multimember districts, though. BCSTV is good for, essentially, a two party system (or a balanced several party system). The district sizes are too small to be proportional when you have a party in the 10-20% vote range, and if you increase their size they get too big to be linked to reasonable sized ridings. If there are multimember districts, it is probably in combination with some other system that ensures proportionallity, which takes out the threat of gerrymandering the individual ridings. As far as what prevents an attempt at gerrymandering, it's the fact that our boundaries are set by a nonpartisan panel and its seen as inappropriate to overly gently caress with their recommendations or game the system. So, basically, some systems are in place combined with tradition. http://142.34.128.33/index.php//resources/maps/electoral-boundaries-commission-reports/
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Also that Alberta subreddit owns https://www.reddit.com/r/alberta/comments/6duiu4/can_i_raise_a_kid_off_the_grid_and_free_from_the/ quote:Hi, my wife is expecting a child and I want to raise the kid without the interference or even the knowledge of the government. I'm a contractor and I've set my business up in such a way that I'm only paying taxes when I buy stuff, like GST and the loving Carbon Tax. I haven't done taxes in years, or used our socialized health care system either. However, I know that that I'm still in the system because I registered my last couple of trucks, and my parents registered my birth, and schooled me publicly.
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Alberta is a real treasure, but you'll find poo poo like that in rural BC and Ontario too. The main problem with Alberta is that "rural culture" and attitudes are more common in urban areas rather than safely quarantined in dying rural towns.
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CLAM DOWN posted:Seriously. Alberta, shut up, you petulant hicks. By "shut up" do you mean double down on the arrogant rhetoric? 'Cause if so Notley's on the job! quote:"At the end of the day, we can't be a country that says one of its two functional coastlines is only going to do what the people who live right beside it want to do," Notley said in an interview Wednesday with CBC Radio's Edmonton AM. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/kinder-morgan-pipeline-expansion-proceed-promises-rachel-notley-alberta-premier-1.4137867 Get hosed. The coast belongs to the people who live here. You'd get a lot further with trying to sweeten the deal and win people over versus just declaring "we want it, it's happening, deal with it".
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It's not a big surprise that rural ontario's biggest export seems to be Fort Mac workers. Shitheads love to congregate
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CLAM DOWN posted:Also that Alberta subreddit owns Can confirm quote:when conservatives bitch about the drama teacher, remind them that their leader is a liberal arts grad insurance salesman. or http://edmontonjournal.com/opinion/columnists/opinion-no-sales-tax-alberta-already-has-one-but-doesnt-get-the-revenue
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CLAM DOWN posted:Also that Alberta subreddit owns There was a Radiolab about someone raised like this who was utterly hosed later in life.
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The Butcher posted:By "shut up" do you mean double down on the arrogant rhetoric? 'Cause if so Notley's on the job! Tell her if the coast isn't BC's the oil isn't AB's. What now
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Yeah, nationalize the oil, nationalize the coasts.
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CLAM DOWN posted:Also that Alberta subreddit owns
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Risky Bisquick posted:Tell her if the coast isn't BC's the oil isn't AB's. What now Seriously how many times have I seen Albertans whine about the country profiting of THEIR OIL!
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I made a post about it on my Facebook page yesterday. A ton of my friends have liked it, including a handful of my ultra-rich marketing friends who also own their own businesses. The only person who's tried to be even remotely like "nuh-uh" was a guy I knew from high school who barely graduated and just started a marketing company in rural northern Alberta, and even he wasn't openly against it, he was just like "eh we'll see, it might work out even though their economy is different to Alberta"
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The Butcher posted:http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/kinder-morgan-pipeline-expansion-proceed-promises-rachel-notley-alberta-premier-1.4137867 Lmao gently caress Alberta. It's our coast. If they want to use it, loving pay up and properly compensate us.
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CLAM DOWN posted:Lmao gently caress Alberta. It's our coast. If they want to use it, loving pay up and properly compensate us. They can also try to ship it south through the USA to Houston :iamafag:
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CLAM DOWN posted:Lmao gently caress Alberta. It's our coast. If they want to use it, loving pay up and properly compensate us. Just introduce a dangerous cargo seaway toll. Put the money into a "eventual massive disaster cleanup fund" and then spend all that money on first time home buyer subsidies and just beg the feds for money when one of those tankers eventually hit something.
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Maybe they should get a domestic manufacturing industry that consumes their extracted resources instead of eschewing value add and selling to lowest bidder in China.
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Powershift posted:Just introduce a dangerous cargo seaway toll. Put the money into a "eventual massive disaster cleanup fund" and then spend all that money on first time home buyer subsidies and just beg the feds for money when one of those tankers eventually hit something. That would be the most BC solution possible so therefore I am 100% for it
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Photo radar probably wouldn't be a good idea to try again, but I think it would be tough to argue against a system that took a photo of your plate as you left Whistler and then another as you arrive in Vancouver. (Or say the start/end of the 60 zone in Lions Bay, or many other examples) If you get through too quickly it's probably hard to argue that the photo radar happened to catch you for the two seconds you were over the limit while passing.
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Evis posted:Photo radar probably wouldn't be a good idea to try again, but I think it would be tough to argue against a system that took a photo of your plate as you left Whistler and then another as you arrive in Vancouver. (Or say the start/end of the 60 zone in Lions Bay, or many other examples) If you get through too quickly it's probably hard to argue that the photo radar happened to catch you for the two seconds you were over the limit while passing. Woah that's a PRIVACY ISSUE. The government shouldn't have any records on where or how fast you're operating an extremely dangerous multi-ton piece of machinery on public roads.
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Evis posted:Photo radar probably wouldn't be a good idea to try again, but I think it would be tough to argue against a system that took a photo of your plate as you left Whistler and then another as you arrive in Vancouver. (Or say the start/end of the 60 zone in Lions Bay, or many other examples) If you get through too quickly it's probably hard to argue that the photo radar happened to catch you for the two seconds you were over the limit while passing. It sounded like Horgan/Weaver plan to leave road pricing up to the cities (  ), maybe they can do average-speed enforcement cameras like in the UKit's the urban areas where speed really kills. highways I could give a gently caress about
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PittTheElder posted:The parliamentary committee talked all about this in the report. There are some complex ways of doing it, relatively simple ways of doing it (huge multimember districts for complete urban areas, separate balancing for rural areas), and ways you don't have to bother with it at all (MMP). Still good, thanks!
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Canadian innovation: an electrified pickup truck. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/electric-pickup-truck-developed-by-u-of-t-grad-on-display-in-markham-1.4138734
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Evis posted:Photo radar probably wouldn't be a good idea to try again, but I think it would be tough to argue against a system that took a photo of your plate as you left Whistler and then another as you arrive in Vancouver. (Or say the start/end of the 60 zone in Lions Bay, or many other examples) If you get through too quickly it's probably hard to argue that the photo radar happened to catch you for the two seconds you were over the limit while passing. The bigger problem is people going too slowly, studies have shown that's actually a bigger accident cause than people going too fast. There's nothing like coming around the corner on the S2S doing 100 to find a guy doing 50 right in front of you and having to slam on the brakes.
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Yeah, doing like 120 on a 90 signed highway when there's no one around to crash into is fine. But doing 50 in a 30 zoned neighbourhood street in a city is absolutely deadly. It's way easier to give tickets to people speeding on the highway than neighbourhood streets though, so the cops enforce where the money is rather than where the safety issues are.
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Baronjutter posted:Yeah, doing like 120 on a 90 signed highway when there's no one around to crash into is fine. But doing 50 in a 30 zoned neighbourhood street in a city is absolutely deadly. It's way easier to give tickets to people speeding on the highway than neighbourhood streets though, so the cops enforce where the money is rather than where the safety issues are. A road built for 50 and one for 100 along the exact same corridor will be very different.
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cowofwar posted:Civil engineers design road banking, corners, materials and other factors around the signed speed. It isn't just a random number. Speeding is unsafe regardless of the absence of other traffic. Yeah, but there are tolerances built into that, as well. +100% speed is one thing, but +25% actually seems like a fairly small margin for traffic engineers.
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