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Jaxyon posted:She's more than competent. She's talented. So was Bill. Her campaign slogan was 'I'm with her'. That is loving malpractice.
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Taerkar posted:Most of those things are populist in nature and the GOP has been running on a pseudo-populism plank for quite a while. It's why Reagan is still so beloved by them and why they've thrown themselves into Trump. This thoroughly flawed definition of populism brought to you by the GOP, halfassedly hiding it since August 3, 1980.
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Taerkar posted:Most of those things are populist in nature and the GOP has been running on a pseudo-populism plank for quite a while. It's why Reagan is still so beloved by them and why they've thrown themselves into Trump. Fun fact: Obama also ran on a populist platform, and won both times. Democrats who run on populist platforms tend to win. Those who don't, frequently lose.
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boner confessor posted:that little citation at the bottom about the submerged state - that's what one professor calls the package of government subsidies that aren't visible to people or easily rationalized. like if you get food stamps, it's hard to say that isn't a government program. but the government permitting you to write off your mortgage interest payments as a deduction on your taxes, is that a government subsidy? (it totally is, but when people - especially wealthier people - say well that's a tax cut, not a subsidy like food stamps, then they're all i earned this the only moral welfare is my welfare etc.) Social Security 44% Cash Assistance/TANF/Welfare 28% These people are literally getting a check from U.S. Treasury. I can maybe see the SS people being dumb and saying, "But I paid into SS, so it isn't a government program!" But what about the other group?
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Office Pig posted:I lust for Chuck death. Chuck Asay. Chuck Woolery. Chuck whatever this cuck's name is. Seems like a lotta chucks suck.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Social Security 44%
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https://twitter.com/CNN/statuses/870092791325626368 gently caress this planet, I'm done with this shithole
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Caros posted:Her campaign slogan was 'I'm with her'. That is loving malpractice. And? Not a lot you can do about sexism other than not be a woman. She didn't run an incompetent campaign. She got more votes even and survived a strong primary challenge.
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Apoplexy posted:https://twitter.com/CNN/statuses/870092791325626368
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Refusing to acknowledge you benefit from government social programmes isn't a dumb American thing, it's a dumb human thing. I'm fairly certain if you asked anyone who receives something like a family tax credit whether they believed they were on welfare, a substantial number would say no, regardless of country.
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Hastings posted:I seriously want to know how any of these individuals could believe they never used a govt. social program. What do Republicans consider to be a social program? Is it just anything those 'losers' other than them use? Easy. "government social program" is free money for lazy poors who don't pay any taxes. Things like social security and the mortgage interest deduction don't count because I pay my taxes, and I'm just getting back what I paid in. It's flawed, but there's a logic to it.
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Jaxyon posted:And? Not a lot you can do about sexism other than not be a woman. I have a higher opinion of hilary clinton as a person and a public servant than most people on this forum do but she ran a loving awful campaign and its okay to accept that
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Jaxyon posted:She didn't run an incompetent campaign. She got more votes even and survived a strong primary challenge. President Donald John Trump
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Jaxyon posted:And? Not a lot you can do about sexism other than not be a woman. A competent campaign would not have made the easily avoidable blunders that hers did in "Blue Wall" states.
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I would like to point out that once again on a slow news day without a fresh Trump Scandal this thread went from running a meme into the ground to arguing over the Democratic Primary. Its really pretty remarkable once you start watching for it.
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awesmoe posted:I have a higher opinion of hilary clinton as a person and a public servant than most people on this forum do but she ran a loving awful campaign and its okay to accept that Nah she ran an OK campaign and I hate her. Like I said a lot of hillary hate is based on a ton of poo poo is not really rational. She could have done better but the hatred of her has very little to do with that. This is in response to the guy asking why people hate on her so hard and the answer is realistically that it's a break from hating on Trump.
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Majorian posted:A competent campaign would not have made the easily avoidable blunders that hers did in "Blue Wall" states. Nor would it have deliberately ignored advice from two people who won the presidency twice because of a belief that their strategy is inferior to yours.
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STAC Goat posted:I would like to point out that once again on a slow news day without a fresh Trump Scandal this thread went from running a meme into the ground to arguing over the Democratic Primary. Its the palette cleanser needed before the next Trump turd drops. Going Full Trump 24/7 would drive even the most hardened and optimistic person off the edge.
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STAC Goat posted:I would like to point out that once again on a slow news day without a fresh Trump Scandal this thread went from running a meme into the ground to arguing over the Democratic Primary. It's the #1 derail
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if she had a dick and ran the exact same campaign she almost certainly would have won
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STAC Goat posted:I would like to point out that once again on a slow news day without a fresh Trump Scandal this thread went from running a meme into the ground to arguing over the Democratic Primary. *right hand begins moving to the keyboard of its own accord, I clutch and pull at it desperately with my left but it moves with an unholy strength* Bernie would have won
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Jaxyon posted:if she had a dick and ran the exact same campaign she almost certainly would have won well and presented as male
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I admire Hillary, but I really think she needs to go fade into the background for awhile or at least be politically involved on a smaller scale. She is trying to push herself as the face of resistance, but the problem is that she is not that likeable, and this is the time for new, progressive faces. And her response to Trump's typo while having a shred of truth, was pretty embarrassing and dramatic. We don't need intelligence to be ascribed to him to feel better about our losses. What we need is for Trump to be dressed down, taken to the cleaners and come across as the strong option.
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To bring the thread back to trump, I honestly admire his committment to doing what he thinks is right regardless of optics:https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-administration-moves-to-return-russian-compounds-in-maryland-and-new-york/2017/05/31/3c4778d2-4616-11e7-98cd-af64b4fe2dfc_story.html posted:The Trump administration is moving toward handing back to Russia two diplomatic compounds, near New York City and on Maryland’s Eastern Shore, that its officials were ejected from in late December as punishment for Moscow’s interference in the 2016 presidential election.
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Apoplexy posted:https://twitter.com/CNN/statuses/870092791325626368 This stuff usually turns out to be a hoax.
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Hastings posted:I admire Hilary, but I really think she needs to go fade into the background for awhile or at least be politically involved on a smaller scale. She is trying to push herself as the face of resistance, but the problem is that she is not that likeable, and this is the time for new, progressive faces. And her response to Trump's typo while having a shred of truth, was pretty embarrassing and dramatic. We don't need intelligence to be ascribed to him to feel better about our losses. What we need is for Trump to be dressed down, taken to the cleaners and come across as the strong option. people complained when she was gone for a few months then they complained that she was back it's almost as if they are just complaining
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Mustached Demon posted:gently caress Hillary chat.
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Mustached Demon posted:gently caress Hillary chat.
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Zil posted:
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Jaxyon posted:And? Not a lot you can do about sexism other than not be a woman. Yeah, I don't think the problem with "I'm with her" was sexism. ozmunkeh fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Jun 1, 2017 |
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Nothus posted:Easy. "government social program" is free money for lazy poors who don't pay any taxes. Things like social security and the mortgage interest deduction don't count because I pay my taxes, and I'm just getting back what I paid in. Social security is literally our money. It's run by the government and used for more things than retirement, but it is disingenuous as gently caress to tell someone in their 70's on SS, that they are receiving a hand-out.
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Dmitri-9 posted:This stuff usually turns out to be a hoax. there was another one found 4 days ago, though. I'm hoping it's a hoax still, but it doesn't sound like a one-time thing 
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ozmunkeh posted:She was a dogshit candidate who ran a dogshit campaign and got her rear end handed to her by a fat loving child with dementia. No she was an OK candidate who should have won and there's a lot of reasons why she didn't but we're definitely going to blame her alone because of reasons that are definitely not irrational hillary hate
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Pull up thread PULL UP
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Going back to that video about the town hall meeting, this just makes me furious about our system The GOP and Trump are dividing the country further and further, and they give no fucks. It's all about the money None of them will admit that this division is wrong, because they're in their safe spaces. And people like Hannity only add fuel to this poo poo fest loving assholes, the lot of them
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awesmoe posted:To bring the thread back to trump, I honestly admire his committment to doing what he thinks is right regardless of optics: As I learned from reading the /r/politics thread on the subject: Trump is now 1/3 on undoing poo poo Obama did to punish Russia. Almost 2/3. Sanctions, ejecting spies, and closing these facilities. Sanctions are about to go boom, we know that much. How much longer before he lets in the same spies Obama booted as punishment for loving with the elections? I can't imagine it'll take until the end of summer.
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Pollyanna posted:I'm also a little worried about Maddow, since someone brought up poisoning. What, is she sick or something?
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Rachel maddow is fine, you guys, she is on memorial day vacation like most tv personalities.
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