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Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Mustached Demon posted:

I'm operating under the same. I'm claiming the management of the money people pay into it counts as a handout.

I no way does it constitute a hand-out, it's literally money paid into a trust-fund under the assumption it'll be paid back.

Someone on welfare/SNAP isn't paying into those programs and withdrawing it later, it's literally assistance for the poor.

SS is a mandatory retirement account.

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Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


I find it annoying that people keep treating Trump's flailing as some sort of plan to distract us from other issues.

Yes the clowns in a circus might use comic ineptitude to draw attention to allow the next act to set up, but at this point the trump team has pulled the equivalent of running out with flaming pants causing the elephants to trample the audience and driving the clown car into the pole turning the tight rope walker to be a crater with a mush of organs in the bottom. This isn't part of the act, they are just that stupid.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

ReidRansom posted:

Here is a news so you will all shut up about that person

https://twitter.com/Evan_Rosenfeld/status/870071829431320576

They will never learn that these leaks aren't dripping out of tiny holes but pouring out of a giant chasm. When essentially every single person in the administration from top to bottom doesn't give a gently caress about each other and is more than glad to throw everyone else under the buss the leaks literally can't be contained. And then of course when you have the entire IC at war with you that's just going to make things even worse.

Caros
May 14, 2008

Google Butt posted:

The election is over

Hey, I'm not the guy who was talking up Hillary in the trump thread. Just the guy who pointed out that her campaign slogan was hot garbage.

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

Hitler was completely full of poo poo whenever he publicly talked about the Nazis rise to power so don't use him as a reliable narrator you idiot.

I ordinarily take Hitler with a grain of salt, but he said this when he had uncontested power. He seemed to know a thing or two about the acquisition of power, so I'd take his word when he said 'the only way to stop us was early on and with violence 2latesuckas' Then he was stopped with violence. A lot of it, really.

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

Caros posted:

Hey, I'm not the guy who was talking up Hillary in the trump thread. Just the guy who pointed out that her campaign slogan was hot garbage.

Oh word?

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine

Raylen posted:

Hmmm yes, let's use violence to stop the violence. That always works!

Do you know what stopped Hitler and the Nazis?

Furnaceface
Oct 21, 2004




Shimrra Jamaane posted:

They will never learn that these leaks aren't dripping out of tiny holes but pouring out of a giant chasm. When essentially every single person in the administration from top to bottom doesn't give a gently caress about each other and is more than glad to throw everyone else under the buss the leaks literally can't be contained. And then of course when you have the entire IC at war with you that's just going to make things even worse.

Theyre too dumb to realize that this is how Trump runs a business, pit everyone against each other to earn his favour. He thinks it produces loyalty when it actually does the opposite.

DaveWoo
Aug 14, 2004

Fun Shoe
Hey, look who's back from vacation:

https://twitter.com/GoAngelo/status/870103707807100928

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Apoplexy posted:

Do you know what stopped Hitler and the Nazis?

Chaos in the streets is a big part of what convinced conservatives to hand them power in the first place. If Antifa were some kind of disciplined group with clear aims that only acted against clear threats, I think a lot of people would be more comfortable with them. In reality, they're mostly dumb kids who want to break poo poo.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Hmm yes I'm sure that won't obviously backfire in the most predictable way imaginable.

woke kaczynski
Jan 23, 2015

How do you do, fellow antifa?



Fun Shoe

Raylen posted:

I'm not totally anti-Antifa. I'm just against using violence to somehow force fascists to think differently. It's literally playing into their narrative of "Oh look at these violent extremists! We need more security and surveillance to take care of them!"

I mean, forcing people to think differently isn't really the point. I don't necessarily give a poo poo what's in some white supremacist's heart of hearts, but if they ever try to enact it on anyone, they need to be stopped. Also, they're already spinning that narrative, regardless of how far from the truth it is.

Google Butt
Oct 4, 2005

Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.


Qq more Hannity

Raylen
Aug 1, 2003

You just killed the nice deranged chick from the juice bar that I was gonna score with someday maybe!
Pillbug

Apoplexy posted:

Do you know what stopped Hitler and the Nazis?

lol comparing Antifa attacking Proud Boys or whoever these right wing dickheads are with the rise of Hitler is loving stupid and shows how little you really understand the situation

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

That is a brilliant strategy that will in no ways backfire.

Loel
Jun 4, 2012

"For the Emperor."

There was a terrible noise.
There was a terrible silence.



Raylen posted:

Hmmm yes, let's use violence to stop the violence. That always works!

Ah yes, I too remember the great letter writing campaign of 1939-1945 :allears:

Raylen posted:

lol comparing Antifa attacking Proud Boys or whoever these right wing dickheads are with the rise of Hitler is loving stupid and shows how little you really understand the situation

:ironicat:

Loel fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Jun 1, 2017

woke kaczynski
Jan 23, 2015

How do you do, fellow antifa?



Fun Shoe

Majorian posted:

That is a brilliant strategy that will in no ways backfire.

So is Assange still going to be guest hosting his show? I guess if it can't be canceled, we might as well just go totally off the rails with it.

stone cold
Feb 15, 2014

Sinteres posted:

Chaos in the streets is a big part of what convinced conservatives to hand them power in the first place. If Antifa were some kind of disciplined group with clear aims that only acted against clear threats, I think a lot of people would be more comfortable with them. In reality, they're mostly dumb kids who want to break poo poo.

so are you white or

like imagine thinking punching nazis is bad

yes truly the reason the nazis had power was because people dared stand up to them

you brilliant child

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Chilichimp posted:

I no way does it constitute a hand-out, it's literally money paid into a trust-fund under the assumption it'll be paid back.

Someone on welfare/SNAP isn't paying into those programs and withdrawing it later, it's literally assistance for the poor.

SS is a mandatory retirement account.

You don't pay any fees for contributing to social security like you do a 401k or similar. Though it being mandatory might counteract that yeah.

Anchor Wanker
May 14, 2015

Sinteres posted:

Chaos in the streets is a big part of what convinced conservatives to hand them power in the first place. If Antifa were some kind of disciplined group with clear aims that only acted against clear threats, I think a lot of people would be more comfortable with them. In reality, they're mostly dumb kids who want to break poo poo.

Lol, The right will twist everything you do into a threat against them. You can be peaceful your entire life and you'll still be painted as a threat. Might as well break poo poo.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

stone cold posted:

so are you white or

like imagine thinking punching nazis is bad

yes truly the reason the nazis had power was because people dared stand up to them

you brilliant child

That's not what I actually said, but have fun jerking yourself off.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.
It appears some people here are under the impression that the Nazi's rise to power was only opposed by non-confrontational protest rather than the constant city-wide street brawls between armed militias that saw dozens of people die on a daily basis.

The KPD and the SPD tried fighting the Nazis at their own game. God bless them for trying, I mean that, but it didn't work. What would have worked is if they put aside their differences and worked together politically but they distrusted each other more than they hated the Nazis and refused to get along. By the time they agreed to cooperate it was too late.

Raylen
Aug 1, 2003

You just killed the nice deranged chick from the juice bar that I was gonna score with someday maybe!
Pillbug

Loel posted:

Ah yes, I too remember the great letter writing campaign of 1939-1945 :allears:


:ironicat:

lol comparing the rise of Hitler to Trump is totally the same situation and not different at all

e: so go out into the street and fight a conservative if you're so ready to throw down

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


ReidRansom posted:

Here is a news so you will all shut up about that person

https://twitter.com/Evan_Rosenfeld/status/870071829431320576

The second amendment is the only one that comes first for the Trump administration. Also this seems like a great way for the NYT to rack up another win court.

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.


Hey, hey! I want to pick a fight with a guy with a way larger audience and platform than me! All because I got in trouble for pushing an absurd conspiracy theory pissed off the family of the victim! So it must be Colbert's fault!

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004



I wonder if he realizes that Colbert has a bigger audience and that people actually like him


I mean, obviously not, but has someone at least tried to explain that to him?

Apoplexy
Mar 9, 2003

by Shine

Sinteres posted:

That's not what I actually said, but have fun jerking yourself off.

You know who has no fun jerking themselves off? Proud Boys. Sounds like a group of people needing to be put out of their misery to me. (not actually advocating beating Proud Boys out of their pseudo-fascism; I was just making a joke about how they supposedly won't jerk off but probably totally do to interracial cuckold porn 24/7)

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

I'm pretty sure Hitler was talking about police/military power, not socialists punching Nazis, which did happen in Weimar Germany. Not to say that Nazi punching is bad, the opposite. But "If only the White Roses punched back" is a misreading of history

Shimrra Jamaane posted:

It appears some people here are under the impression that the Nazi's rise to power was only opposed by non-confrontational protest rather than the constant city-wide street brawls between armed militias that saw dozens of people die on a daily basis.

The KPD and the SPD tried fighting the Nazis at their own game. God bless them for trying, I mean that, but it didn't work. What would have worked is if they put aside their differences and worked together politically but they distrusted each other more than they hated the Nazis and refused to get along. By the time they agreed to cooperate it was too late.


Exactly this.

Lightning Lord fucked around with this message at 03:55 on Jun 1, 2017

Anchor Wanker
May 14, 2015

Raylen posted:

lol comparing the rise of Hitler to Trump is totally the same situation and not different at all

e: so go out into the street and fight a conservative if you're so ready to throw down

I'm not sure why you think we should treat the hard right any different.

logger
Jun 28, 2008

...and in what manner the Ancyent Marinere came back to his own Country.
Soiled Meat

Furnaceface posted:

Theyre too dumb to realize that this is how Trump runs a business, pit everyone against each other to earn his favour. He thinks it produces loyalty when it actually does the opposite.

It gets even messier when he expects loyalty out of people who have no requirement to give it to him. The reason there are so many leaks from the alphabet soup agencies is because Trump is trying to muscle his way into controlling them even though they work independently of the White House.

There is no way career professionals at the FBI and CIA don't take what Trump is doing to them as an insult when they have worked all their lives to get where they are and are now expected to be toadies for a man who has no desire to protect the country.

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011




Tilted my head to the side trying to understand this. Nope. Got nothing.

stone cold
Feb 15, 2014

Sinteres posted:

That's not what I actually said, but have fun jerking yourself off.

you clutched your pearls and blamed people who were not the nazis for the nazis, so

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Lightning Lord posted:

I'm pretty sure Hitler was talking about police/military power, not socialists punching Nazis, which did happen in Weimar Germany. Not to say that Nazi punching is bad, the opposite. But "If only the White Roses punched back" is a misreading of history

I'm not familiar with the exact quote but I know he similarly described the Munich Agreement along the same lines. That if the Allies had refused to budge over the Sudetenland that they would have won an early war. Which is something that occurred 5 years after he came to power so it has nothing to do with the rise of the Nazis. They were already firmly in power.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

https://twitter.com/immigrant4trump/status/870102969668206592

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


TARDISman posted:

Tilted my head to the side trying to understand this. Nope. Got nothing.

Yeah right there with you

Grrrr, Capital One! If you stop advertising on my show I will go after Proctor & Gamble for advertising on Colbert! Then you'll see!

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

stone cold posted:

you clutched your pearls and blamed people who were not the nazis for the nazis, so

Explaining that societies have a tendency to lurch hard right when civil order breaks down and there's violence in the streets isn't Nazi apologism, and the way you want to portray people who aren't Nazis as Nazi sympathizers makes me think you don't really give a poo poo if Antifa restricts their violence to Nazis.

Shimrra Jamaane
Aug 10, 2007

Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

Totally not a bot.

pacmania90
May 31, 2010

this looks like a bot

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

ReidRansom posted:

Here is a news so you will all shut up about that person

https://twitter.com/Evan_Rosenfeld/status/870071829431320576

Still chugging along on that Nixon Speedrun

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Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses


Do we really need to be subjected to every rando moron's rancid mind grapes?

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