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When I was a smallen' I used to think that the reason Knuckles was laid down panting for air in Sky Sanctuary Zone was because Knuckles needed the energy of the Master Emerald to live. That is why he is the guardian, not as a contractual obligation but because he is dependent on the Emeralds power but hey SEGA don't let 9 year old me stop you from taking away more agency to stop Dr Eggman/Robotknik just sayin'.
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beep by grandpa posted:I hope Mania is full of secrets. there will be the faintest hints of a hidden palace zone that people will speculate about for decades.
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May 31, 2017 21:15
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MikeJF posted:The creators put up a longer version of the music: Almost forgot, thanks for this, I love this so god drat much.
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May 31, 2017 21:51
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Gammatron 64 posted:They should have just called Sonic Mania "Sonic 4". Sure, there is already another game called Sonic 4, but let's just pretend that one didn't happen. I would also be ok with them naming it "Real Sonic 4"
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May 31, 2017 22:03
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Sonic Mania is not Sonic 4 and shouldn't be considered Sonic 4. One of my main complaints with Sonic 4 ep 1/2 was how it just recycled most of its content from the classic series to cash in on nostalgia and had almost nothing going for it that was exclusively its own. Sonic Mania is doing the exact same thing- only it's doing it extremely well, but let's not forget that even a 10/10 effort nostalgia trip that we are all going to enjoy is not the same thing as a sequel, Sonic friends.
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May 31, 2017 22:07
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Sonic Mania is a celebration 
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May 31, 2017 22:09
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Sonic Mania should not be called Sonic 4 in the interests of not giving the Sonic fandom another thing to debate and get angry endlessly about.
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May 31, 2017 22:20
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They should call it Sonic 5
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Is Knuckles Chaotix a good game? I never had a chance to play it. Does it play like Genesis Sonics or differently? (If differently, how so?)
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Guys, guys. Did you know. That "Miles Prower". Sounds like "Miles Per Hour". Holy poo poo I just discovered this like 6 months ago and it still blows my mind every time I see it.
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It plays like genesis sonic games but it's a bit like CD in being kind of weird about it. You're constantly controlling two characters through basically a stretchy cord (it's a pair of power rings with an energy link, but it behaves like a rubber hose in terms of physics). You can do some creative things via that, but it can take a while to get used to the physics. IMO it feels a bit more like CD than anything else, and I didn't care for CD, but I wouldn't say it's a bad game. Just a bit odd. Go give it a try though, worst case scenario you don't like it.
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It's not very good. You control two characters that are tethered together by an elastic band and can produce some pretty huge speed and jumps by stretching it, but all the levels are big dull empty spaces Every character has some kind of climbing or flight move because the levels have a lot of vertical movement (Espio can run on CEILINGS) Also there are five zones with five acts each and their order is randomly selected, you will be sick of every zone by the time you're done The good things about Chaotix are 1) the music and 2) the special stages
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Ronnie posted:When I was a smallen' I used to think that the reason Knuckles was laid down panting for air in Sky Sanctuary Zone was because Knuckles needed the energy of the Master Emerald to live. That is why he is the guardian, not as a contractual obligation but because he is dependent on the Emeralds power but hey SEGA don't let 9 year old me stop you from taking away more agency to stop Dr Eggman/Robotknik just sayin'. That never crossed my mind back then. I just know that Knucks got his rear end beat by Sonic and then electrocuted by Robotnik almost immediately after and figured he was a bit winded after that.
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May 31, 2017 23:38
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Cybershell did a video all about Chaotix recently
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May 31, 2017 23:45
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Wtf he put out a video 5 hours ago about the Knuckles animation I was talking about here last night 
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Beep by grandpa confirmed for cybershell sockpuppet
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Spacebump posted:Is Knuckles Chaotix a good game? I never had a chance to play it. Does it play like Genesis Sonics or differently? (If differently, how so?) Knuckles Chaotix sucks - it feels like the dregs of an unfinished Sonic CD sequel with a pointless two-player elastic gimmick and no level design to speak of. It looks/sounds fine and the characters move and feel like they should but it's completely unmemorable. Of all the classic-era games, Sonic Mania's aesthetic is most reminiscent of Chaotix, I think.
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Wow, cybershell's swearing is unnecessary. I think we should always refer to it as Sonic Clackers.
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Sonic Mania makes me wish there was a proper 2D Sonic for the Saturn. Xtreme/3D Blast were such blunders on so many levels.
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I got Sonic 3D Blast for my birthday. I'll never forget the feeling of despair and disappointment that washed over me after about half an hour of playing. This was the future of Sonic. The good times were over.
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Also Sonic 3D Blast came out after Super Mario 64 which is loving hilarious.
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Was 3D Blast the first game to tie together the Sonic and Flicky canon??
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Sakurazuka posted:Was 3D Blast the first game to tie together the Sonic and Flicky canon?? Flicky has been in Sonic since the first game, so no.
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Sonic 3D Blast was good though.
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I don't think Sonic 3D was bad necessarily. I just don't consider it a proper Sonic game. It certainly wasn't what Sega needed at the time to beat the competition, either.
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Frankston posted:Also Sonic 3D Blast came out after Super Mario 64 which is loving hilarious. Did it? I played it on the Mega Drive (or Genesis or whatever) which makes that seem unlikely..
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Fneeb posted:Did it? I played it on the Mega Drive (or Genesis or whatever) which makes that seem unlikely..
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The Saturn version of 3D Blast didn't come out in Japan until almost a year after Sonic Adventure.
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J-Spot posted:It sounds kind of weird to hear it now now but yeah, it came out at the end of the 16-bit era. 3D Blast released a couple of months after Mario 64 in 1996. drat, it's crazy to think there's that kind of overlap though I guess 32 and 64 both kinda happened at once. I didn't get to Mario for a couple of years after that anyway! I do remember getting through 3D far too quickly relative to previous Sonic games, enjoyed it well enough but after S3&K there just wasn't much there.
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Late games happen these days too, they just seem less out of place since publishers usually port them forward mid-development and release them simultaneously. Persona 5 was basically a PS3 game launching in 2017.
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I wanted to see a Saturn platformer that expanded on the Sonic World gameplay; it had a lot of potential to be a 3D Blast style exploratory platformer without the limitations of 2D.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Like, if I had to incorporate Shadow into Mania, I would make the central joke of the character be that he doesn't fit. He's ultra-serious in a world that is decidedly not at all serious, and gets constantly taken down a peg for it. This is, to my understanding, also pretty much what the Flynn comics did with him.  This is basically what the Shadow the Hedgehog is to me. He's a giant tryhard but very sincere about it.
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The Archie comics quite simply nail the feel of Team Dark, see also: Omega and literally everything he does.
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I like sonic but I'm not a big enough dork to read the comics. Sonic doesn't need a story.
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Overbite posted:I like sonic but I'm not a big enough dork to read the comics. Sonic doesn't need a story. I read it as a kid and came back to it last month because I kept hearing that it was good now, and the scans of the art from Megadrive convinced me. It's a lot of fun. Ian Flynn works well with the characters and understands that Sonic should been adventure story. He manages to have some good real sincere moments and fun story arcs. It's genuinely enjoyable, and worth your time just to read the way he writes Eggman. And Thunderbolt is a fantastic character.
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It's a drat shame the comic is probably cancelled. I didn't grow up reading the Archie comics (we had our own entirely separate Sonic comics in the UK) but I've been reading them since the reboot and really enjoying them.
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Overbite posted:I like sonic but I'm not a big enough dork to read the comics. Sonic doesn't need a story. Holy freaking poo poo, exactly. Just make Robotnik try to screw everything up making factories all over the place like the huge rear end in a top hat that he is, so that Sonic can run around wrecking everything again. I need zero originality in terms of story, just make Robotnik try harder each time and I'll be happy with it. Also Shadow doesn't exist. List of characters that exist: Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy (barely, she is a Schrödinger's character). All other animals are dumb and exist to be abused by Robotnik and to be saved by the heroes. BTW, about Sonic Forces. Is the custom hero in the trailer actually... "Ruby Eclipse"?
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I love the visuals in Knuckles Chaotix. It really shows off what the 32X was capable of that few games ever really took advantage of. The music and special stages are also great. Unfortunately yeah, the game has a very unfinished feel - it doesn't even really have an ending, it just stops. Oh course, people on the Internet being people on the Internet and having no sense of nuance, Chaotix gets a worse rap than it deserves. It's a flawed game for sure, but it's not horrible like some say. I really like the colorful and surreal visual style of Sonic CD and Chaotix and I'm glad that Sonic Mania is keeping that style, but having level layouts more like Sonic 2 and 3.
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The Archie Sonic Comics are super good, but are on indefinite hiatus at best. Still, they did manage the finish the main reboot storyline, so it's worth checking out. I'd say one of the best things about the comics is that Ian Flynn and company know how to use the wide cast of characters to their full potential. Knowing just who to use and how to use them gives a lot of fun scenarios for them to work with. I think I've said this once before, but to fully appreciate Sonic you need to look at it holistically. Every part has something to offer, even the bad parts, whether it be genuine fun or amusing absurdity. Mikedawson fucked around with this message at 14:41 on Jun 1, 2017 |
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Counterpoint: Sonic Labyrinth
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