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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Like 2 years is extremely generous for the lifetime of a minority government considering 20th century precedent

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communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Macarius Wrench posted:

Politics is just people arguing about why they deserve more money to do less.

Macarius Wrench posted:

We live in a world where people actively feel sexual attraction to children, animals and transgender people. When you think about it, porny anime games are pretty tame.
Is this you equating transgender relationships with paedophilia and bestiality?

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

themrguy posted:

Do people care who the economist endorses?
:catdrugs:RADICAL CENTER:catdrugs:

Seemed pretty reasonable logic to me though, what's this thread think? I don't know that party very well.
I find the Economist endorsing the Lib Dems much funnier than I would have expected.

It's also pretty something that their endorsement of Tony Blair in 2001 was "Vote conservative — but choose the ambiguous right-winger rather than the feeble one".

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

baka kaba posted:

The Tories could lose their majority here, but it's still a bit much to hope that Labour will actually win outright - there's a good chance we'll end up with a coalition government

Assuming we dodge the risk of the Lib Dems propping up the Tories like Tim 'bantzman' Farron has threatened to do, we could get a Labour coalition and that means giving the other parties what they want. The Lib Dems have been pretty aggressive about opposing Brexit and demanding a referendum on the final deal, it feels like they'd be happy to make that a condition for their support and take a lot of the credit/heat for it

Don't forget, nobody outside of the right wing parties really wants Brexit to happen, including the EU, and for all the 'Corbyn whipped for it he loves it!!!' politicking his personal position was that he wanted to stay in with reforms. Which we might be able to get - negotiating with the EU on a deal for staying in, where they need to offer concessions to win the public over

I do like the idea of Lib Dem providing political cover for A50 revocation, that in itself would make for a worthwhile coalition, and go maybe 1% of the way to redeeming their betrayal of party principles and voters in 2010

Rollie Fingers
Jul 28, 2002

I guess I don't have enough faith in the average British idiot to be emboldened by the recent polling. I fully expect many of the people who say they're leaning towards Labour again to bottle it come voting day and deliver the nation again to Tory bastards. It'll more than likely be a repeat of the previous election where fence-sitters take the "safe" choice.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

:vince:

https://twitter.com/George_Osborne/status/870236254377562112

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
thank you Gideon for absolutely despising May lol

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

jBrereton posted:

Not in the UK, no. We're immune to it.

We don't do experts.

(Surveys generally suggest people would like to hear from experts but don't know who the experts are. Given the press will never tell them honestly, functionally, the british public don't like experts)

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops

Quanta posted:

I guess I don't have enough faith in the average British idiot to be emboldened by the recent polling. I fully expect many of the people who say they're leaning towards Labour again to bottle it come voting day and deliver the nation again to Tory bastards. It'll more than likely be a repeat of the previous election where fence-sitters take the "safe" choice.

I wonder, I suspect a lot of people who've been vocally don't-know or against lately are doing it to try and frighten Corbyn out. They know it's a two-horse race and they're not massively swinging lib dem, which you'd expect if they weren't going to vote labour.

freebooter
Jul 7, 2009

spectralent posted:

We don't do experts.

(Surveys generally suggest people would like to hear from experts but don't know who the experts are. Given the press will never tell them honestly, functionally, the british public don't like experts)



“I think the people in this country have had enough of experts from organisations with acronyms, saying they know what’s best and consistently getting it wrong.”
Michael Gove
Justice Secretary
Sky News, 3 June 2016*

*When told that the leaders of the US, China, India, Australia, the bank of England, the IMF, the IFS, the CBI, five former NATO Secretary-Generals, the chief executive of the NHS and most of Britain’s trade unions opposed Britain leaving the EU.

Looke
Aug 2, 2013

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/870244170916651008

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Oh my word yes please :allears:

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm yes please

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP


Oh
Months off to a great start lads.
Hope it stays this way

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

https://twitter.com/GailMcAnena/status/869854643370811392

:laugh:

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

spectralent posted:

We don't do experts.

(Surveys generally suggest people would like to hear from experts but don't know who the experts are. Given the press will never tell them honestly, functionally, the british public don't like experts)
The writers of The Economist aren't experts, they're gobshites.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Just going to post this excellent profile on Theresa May again, including a section on why she and Osborne hate each other:

quote:

There has been much speculation about whether May, who nominally campaigned for Remain, was secretly a Leaver all along. The evidence for her supposed duplicity lies not just in the way she has behaved since the vote but also in the very muted way she conducted herself during the campaign, to the point where she became known inside Downing Street as ‘submarine May’. But there is a more straightforward explanation. In 2013 May was slapped down by Cameron’s team for straying outside her remit by delivering a speech entitled ‘Vision for Britain’, which was seen as a transparent leadership pitch. She responded with a self-denying ordinance pledging she would never again as home secretary stray beyond her brief. She stuck to it during the EU referendum, limiting herself to a few half-hearted remarks about the security implications, where the case for Remain was always going to be a little muddy. If Cameron had wanted more from her then he should have allowed more from her earlier on. Whether or not May believes in Brexit is really a secondary issue. For her politics is all about following through.

The other thing that became immediately apparent once she supplanted Cameron is how little her former colleagues appear to have appreciated this. Within twenty minutes of her arrival in Number Ten, May had summoned Osborne to sack him. Accounts of this meeting differ. Osborne’s people say it was cordial. But May’s people, who include Fiona Hill, now safely back in the fold, let it be known that the new prime minister gave him a severe dressing-down, telling him he had overpromised and underdelivered on the economy. What is clear is that Osborne had little idea how much she loathed him. He had thought that their previous disputes were just part of the cut and thrust of high politics and easily put behind them. That’s precisely what she loathed about him. She hates the idea that politics is just a game, which is what she suspects the Cameroons have always believed. She dispatched Gove with equal relish, telling him she couldn’t stomach his betrayal of Boris Johnson in the leadership contest. In truth, this was the least of it: what she really despised was Gove’s long-standing habit of making it up as he went along. Many observers were surprised when she brought Johnson back as foreign secretary, given that they too had previous from his time as mayor of London, when they had fallen out over his attempt to usurp her authority by purchasing three water cannon from Germany to help keep public order in the capital. The difference is that Johnson never tried to put her in her place; if anything, it was the other way round, after she blocked the use of the water cannon and then told him off about it in the Commons, where he couldn’t answer back. The public tends to see Johnson as the ultimate clown politician, all stunts and no substance. That’s not the way May sees it. For her it was Cameron, Osborne and Gove who were fundamentally unserious, because they were the ones who made promises they couldn’t keep. Johnson had the advantage of never having his promises believed in the first place.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

The sickest of burns

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Gideon is not completely terrible? I think I need a pint or two to cope with this.

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Cerebral Bore posted:

Gideon is not completely terrible? I think I need a pint or two to cope with this.

He's a center-right socially liberal Europhile; this Tory government is everything he hates.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
red georgie

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

jBrereton posted:

The writers of The Economist aren't experts, they're gobshites.

Word. This twenty-six-year-old article will never stop being accurate and relevant.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Cerebral Bore posted:

Gideon is not completely terrible? I think I need a pint or two to cope with this.

It's more a case of "the right result for the wrong reason".

He hates May, but not for the reasons we hate May.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Cerebral Bore posted:

Gideon is not completely terrible? I think I need a pint or two to cope with this.
No mate he's a loving arsehole but he loathes May after she sacked him. I think he's just really enjoying sticking the knife in via the medium of his new toy, the Evening Standard - which at all other times is a despicable Tory rag that should never be read by anybody, and isn't even fit to use as chip paper.

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he



To be clear this doesn't mean he's suspected of wrongdoing or under investigation.

...at this time.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


so corbyns going to win and turn britain into a 1970s communist hellscape with portraits of tony benn hanging everywhere and the IRA as a secret paramilitary police?

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Gidiot is just doing what all tories do in the end. Backstabbing and revenge. She hosed him over and now he's more than happy to see her lose to Jam Stalin if only laugh in her face about it.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

icantfindaname posted:

so corbyns going to win and turn britain into a 1970s communist hellscape with portraits of tony benn hanging everywhere and the IRA as a secret paramilitary police?

he's going to turn us into modern norway

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

England gets bokmal, Scotland gets nynorsk

Sanitary Naptime
May 29, 2006

MIWK!



I hope this isn't the best thing to come out of June.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lol

https://twitter.com/SocialistVoice/...er%3D53%23pti23

Looke
Aug 2, 2013


Bigly loling

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan

:pray:

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Looke posted:

Bigly loling

wheres your avatar from

dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life

icantfindaname posted:

so corbyns going to win and turn britain into a 1970s communist hellscape with portraits of tony benn hanging everywhere and the IRA as a secret paramilitary police?

Maybe in London if it gets independence from the rest of the UK.

https://twitter.com/britainelects/status/870246144798068736

Flatscan
Mar 27, 2001

Outlaw Journalist

icantfindaname posted:

so corbyns going to win and turn britain into a 1970s communist hellscape with portraits of tony benn hanging everywhere and the IRA as a secret paramilitary police?

That sounds pretty awesome, actually.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

icantfindaname posted:

so corbyns going to win and turn britain into a 1970s communist hellscape with portraits of tony benn hanging everywhere and the IRA as a secret paramilitary police?

Inshallah

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

It's more a case of "the right result for the wrong reason".

He hates May, but not for the reasons we hate May.

Yeah, well, if I suspected that Gideon got the right result or the right reasons I'd need much stronger drugs than a pint.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Cerebral Bore posted:

Yeah, well, if I suspected that Gideon got the right result or the right reasons I'd need much stronger drugs than a pint.

luckily gideon can help here as well

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Macarius Wrench
Mar 28, 2017

by Lowtax

Oberleutnant posted:

Is this you equating transgender relationships with paedophilia and bestiality?

Yup

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