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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
| Total: | 1817 votes | ||
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i heard they were finally gonna clash at lewisham mc d's
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oh by all means take your loving time. It's not like Russia rubbing their dicks all over us is a concern or anything.
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Jun 1, 2017 15:59
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forkboy84 posted:Grime is legitimately cool. There's a great independent, DIY attitude through a lot of the scene, by necessity because until recently it was pretty overlooked despite the occasional breakthrough of a Dizzee Rascal or a Lethal Bizzle. And incidentally, grime era Dizzee Rascal remains loving rad. And then guys like JME & Skepta are willing to be activists as well as musicians. The Scottish folk revival.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DeiLjVEc_U
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Jun 1, 2017 16:01
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I feel like clear evidence of Russian interference/a conspiracy could be a pretty bona fides reason to have the Brexit vote cast aside or done again.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:03
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Holy gently caress who wrote the wikipedia article on British economic history? I started editing it but there's just more and more bullshit as I look into it. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Economy_of_the_United_Kingdom&oldid=782996989
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Jun 1, 2017 16:04
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Entropy238 posted:I feel like clear evidence of Russian interference/a conspiracy could be a pretty bona fides reason to have the Brexit vote cast aside or done again.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:07
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Entropy238 posted:I feel like clear evidence of Russian interference/a conspiracy could be a pretty bona fides reason to have the Brexit vote cast aside or done again. Lol you sweet summer child
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Jun 1, 2017 16:12
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Liu posted:oh by all means take your loving time. It's not like Russia rubbing their dicks all over us is a concern or anything.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:19
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I don't see why not. Something really tangible like an email leak showing clear ties between farage and putin could turn it in to a pretty palatable position for a lot of people.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:19
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Entropy238 posted:I don't see why not. Something really tangible like an email leak showing clear ties between farage and putin could turn it in to a pretty palatable position for a lot of people. Why? The referendum wasn't binding, the UK is doing this because the government wants to and because it has a plurality of popular support, neither of those change if it turns out that nigel farage likes putin's polonium penis up his bum.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:20
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Stop blaming Putin for the inevitable decline of contemporary liberalism.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:22
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Entropy238 posted:I don't see why not. Something really tangible like an email leak showing clear ties between farage and putin could turn it in to a pretty palatable position for a lot of people.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:23
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Just to be clear, I did say if tangible evidence was available - I haven't stated I believe that it actually exists. If senior figures in the leave campaign team were actively working as agents of a hostile foreign government that seems like a pretty good reason to me to render the result null and void.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:26
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Entropy238 posted:Just to be clear, I did say if tangible evidence was available - I haven't stated I believe that it actually exists. You still appear to the operating under the belief that the reason brexit is happening is because the government has to do what the referendum said. Which is incorrect.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:27
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Entropy238 posted:Just to be clear, I did say if tangible evidence was available - I haven't stated I believe that it actually exists. the result doesn't matter. It never meant anything. Article 50 has been triggered, and it would be nearly impossible to establish a democratic consensus to reverse this within two years.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:27
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*in extremely hillaryman voice* uh this looks like foreign interference to me unlike nigel farage getting picked up by the FBI on a warrant that's entirely about US domestic politics
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Jun 1, 2017 16:29
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Entropy238 posted:Just to be clear, I did say if tangible evidence was available - I haven't stated I believe that it actually exists. It wouldn't unless it convinced some significant fraction of Leave voters they were deceived, and nothing short of a vlog of Putin himself frenchig Nigel Farrage would do that.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:29
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OwlFancier posted:You still appear to the operating under the belief that the reason brexit is happening is because the government has to do what the referendum said. Spangly A posted:the result doesn't matter. It never meant anything. Article 50 has been triggered, and it would be nearly impossible to establish a democratic consensus to reverse this within two years. Where there's a will there's a way. My understanding was that most of the politicians voting to trigger article 50 did so under the impression that there was a fair referendum on the issue, but they don't actually want Brexit. Demonstrate that the referendum result was flawed/dubious and there's your out.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:30
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OwlFancier posted:You still appear to the operating under the belief that the reason brexit is happening is because the government has to do what the referendum said. Legally it doesn't. Non-binding and all that Politically it does. It would be literal political suicide for whatever party cancelled Brexit. Even though they all know how bad it will be, none of them have the political courage or capital to stop the juggernaught Entropy238 posted:Where there's a will there's a way.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:31
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Entropy238 posted:Where there's a will there's a way. They're doing it because it's popular. And not because it's actually majority popular either, because it never was, it had a slightly larger plurality than the alternative. Instead it was seized upon by the tories and UKIP and, to a degree, Labour, as a means to win support. That isn't going to go away regardless of what people say about the referendum and it is far too late in the day for anyone to renege on delivering some form of brexit unless we have a lib dem government next week. Technicalities about the referendum don't remotely change the reasons why brexit is happening which are: the UK is full of twats and: politicians are hungry to use it to win votes.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:34
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Besides that there's nothing stopping the next government from retriggering Article 50 after whoever stopped Brexit is slaughtered at the polls.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:36
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Article 50 cannot be untriggered as written.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:37
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Capitalism.txt, 1905 edition:quote:"[Our long established privilege] is that outside the metropolitan area all land covered by water or Railways is exempted from 3/4 of the General District Rate. This is only fair because the Docks do not get any advantage from public expenditure on Roads, Sewage, Lighting, Police, Public Libraries, Baths, etc. Already we pay in Woolwich £7000 a year in rates and get no advantage and no representation, and if this Bill passes we shall have to pay £1100 a year more with absolutely no compensatory advantage. It does not seem fair thus to penalise Dock and Railway companies." 
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Jun 1, 2017 16:38
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What does the dock owner think is going to happen to the stuff that gets loaded onto his docks if there weren't any roads?
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Jun 1, 2017 16:40
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Stop doing mental gymnastics to imagine a timeline in which Brexit gets stopped. It won't be. Trust me, I also really really wish it weren't so, but it's happening, there's no turning the clock back, it's a reality and we have to deal with it. Now, at this point I'd much rather have a Labour Brexit than a Tory Brexit, that goes without saying.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:41
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The tory magic money tree, I love it. Hope it catches on like the dementia tax.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:41
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nopantsjack posted:This is the only thread I have people on ignore in and I always thought you were too scrappy to do that to What do you mean by scrappy? I'm some wee annoying dog who was only made to sell toys to kids?
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Jun 1, 2017 16:43
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OwlFancier posted:What does the dock owner think is going to happen to the stuff that gets loaded onto his docks if there weren't any roads?
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Jun 1, 2017 16:43
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His Divine Shadow posted:The tory magic money tree, I love it. Hope it catches on like the dementia tax. I read a couple of papers on the tube earlier, and scanning the comments sent in regarding the leaders debate, several contributors mentioned the Magic Money Tree phrase. Given that it hasn't caught on elsewhere, I suspect there were several Tory activists last night writing/submitting comments to the papers, posing as ordinary members of the public, trying to get their phrase to spread
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Jun 1, 2017 16:46
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Oberleutnant posted:I dunno lol Has he even played openttd?
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Jun 1, 2017 16:47
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/jun/01/general-election-2017-may-absence-leaders-debate-brexit-politics-live "They are not their to represent their parties; they are their as “expert political analysts”." I'd never caught a Guardian typo in the wild. Pretty big one as well.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:48
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Lovechop posted:i heard they were finally gonna clash at lewisham mc d's *spins bicycle chain above head* come on u torie cunts ill gently caress u up fam REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Jun 1, 2017 16:49
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Mr. Nemo posted:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2017/jun/01/general-election-2017-may-absence-leaders-debate-brexit-politics-live My favourite was when they called Douglas Carswell UKIP's sole MEP.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:50
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Oberleutnant posted:I dunno lol Airships
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Jun 1, 2017 16:50
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jBrereton posted:Article 50 cannot be untriggered as written. it can't, but the EU were until very recently extremely amenable to giving leeway to a legal article they didn't expect or want to ever be used
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Jun 1, 2017 16:50
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Funny how the UK isn't important enough for the ruskies to hack our emails.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:51
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vodkat posted:Funny how the UK isn't important enough for the ruskies to hack our emails. I like to imagine they did but it was all harmless poo poo about jam and allotments so they tore their hair out in frustration
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Jun 1, 2017 16:51
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vodkat posted:Funny how the UK isn't important enough for the ruskies to hack our emails. the french dumps were on voting day and anyone involved enough to arrange a hack will know how short the UK political cycle is. If there's going to be a hack, it'll be on the 7th or 8th. The odds of Russia actually caring or devoting major resources aren't too high.
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Jun 1, 2017 16:53
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Brexit is happening, realign your epistemes. Furthermore I am consigned that single market membership is not going to happen even under Labour, if not because of freedom of movement then due to state aid rules which are unlikely to be reformed under Merkel and Macron and may be a non-insignificant spanner in Labours investment bank idea depending how its planned
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Currently smiling as I remember all those smug Tories chortling about spending £3 to vote Corbyn.
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