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Lemon King
Oct 4, 2009

im nt posting wif a mark on my head

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/870368193747066880

Yeah, make America great. :smith:


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STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Ol Standard Retard posted:

undoubtedly yes.

I have noticed that in the past when he refers to ANY THING OR CONCEPT named after a location or a particular person, he... specifies it down to just being about said place or person.

I'm not sure how much of that is him genuinely thinking its about Paris and how much is his mind just goes right to "branding." Like, that's his entire business history and he constantly puts undue focusing on the name of things and takes pride in his naming of stuff from "Lying Ted" to "Make America Great Again." Trump's all about the sizzle on his over cooked steak.

Night10194
Feb 13, 2012

We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.


I've been reading this same reaction all over. That tons of people plan to stick with emissions reduction anyway because they simply see Trump as a short term aberration against a long term trend.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I think I might actually loathe McConnell and Ryan more than Trump at this point.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord
so like, how do you depoliticize climate change? In my hometown, its the concept is synonymous with "tree huggers" and immediately sparks the whole "THOSE STUPID LIBERALS" reaction.

LionArcher posted:

They have drones and the actual psychopath warriors working for them.
Its funny to hear the "home defense against govt" argument because technology like this exists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEHy-vPYKTc

TyrantWD
Nov 6, 2010
Ignore my doomerism, I don't think better things are possible

Zophar posted:

Perhaps the silver lining here is that Trump negotiates a new deal that's actually way worse for America, in concert with his previous efforts.

Who does he even think he is going to negotiate with? 194 other countries already have a deal in place, they don't need another one.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

STAC Goat posted:

I'm not sure how much of that is him genuinely thinking its about Paris and how much is his mind just goes right to "branding." Like, that's his entire business history and he constantly puts undue focusing on the name of things and takes pride in his naming of stuff from "Lying Ted" to "Make America Great Again." Trump's all about the sizzle on his over cooked steak.

You'd think he'd like to own something with the word "Paris" on it. City of Light, Glitz and Glammer, etc

EwokEntourage
Jun 10, 2008

BREYER: Actually, Antonin, you got it backwards. See, a power bottom is actually generating all the dissents by doing most of the work.

SCALIA: Stephen, I've heard that speed has something to do with it.

BREYER: Speed has everything to do with it.
Why did Nicaragua not sign on? I get that Syria is a little preoccupied, but what's with Nicaragua

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002


mcconnell tried to sabotage it even before trump was elected

Gortarius
Jun 6, 2013

idiot
You know, I understand that your president is a irredeemable retard, but who wrote this speech? All he is doing is going in circles saying the same thing over and over again. His occasional ad libbing is like a whiplash that reminds me what a clown he is and then he returns to the speech to say the same thing he just said a minute ago once more.

"We will......... leave.......... the paris...... climate accords. It is bad.... for the United.... States. We are going.... to leave... the paris accord... behind. -*Bad deal, tremendeously bad, let me tell ya*- ..............We will do so because... the deal... is not in the United States'.... best interest. Millions of... coal jobs... are lost..... we are spending 100000 trillion.... in this deal.... to pay for.... all other countries.... in the world......................................"


Does he read with these constant pauses in his speech because he is trying to be dramatic or does he have this much trouble reading?

This is embarrassing to watch.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Fojar38 posted:

I think I might actually loathe McConnell and Ryan more than Trump at this point.

I know I do. He's just like some kind of avatar of stupid white boomers. They are pure evil.

I'm going to be really pissed when Trump is done and those guys are still getting rear end kissed by beltway media. Anyone that called Ryan some kind of genius wonk should be shot into the sun.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Gortarius posted:

You know, I understand that your president is a irredeemable retard, but who wrote this speech? All he is doing is going in circles saying the same thing over and over again. His occasional ad libbing is like a whiplash that reminds me what a clown he is and then he returns to the speech to say the same thing he just said a minute ago once more.

"We will......... leave.......... the paris...... climate accords. It is bad.... for the United.... States. We are going.... to leave... the paris accord... behind. -*Bad deal, tremendeously bad, let me tell ya*- ..............We will do so because... the deal... is not in the United States'.... best interest. Millions of... coal jobs... are lost..... we are spending 100000 trillion.... in this deal.... to pay for.... all other countries.... in the world......................................"


Does he read with these constant pauses in his speech because he is trying to be dramatic or does he have this much trouble reading?

This is embarrassing to watch.


Probably Miller.

moostaffa
Apr 2, 2008

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EwokEntourage posted:

Why did Nicaragua not sign on? I get that Syria is a little preoccupied, but what's with Nicaragua

They didn't think it was tough enough: http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/jun/01/debbie-wasserman-schultz/are-nicaragua-and-syria-only-countries-not-sign-pa/

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

EwokEntourage posted:

Why did Nicaragua not sign on? I get that Syria is a little preoccupied, but what's with Nicaragua

Nicaragua refused to sign on because they thought it was too weak.

Tim Whatley
Mar 28, 2010

Gortarius posted:

You know, I understand that your president is a irredeemable retard, but who wrote this speech? All he is doing is going in circles saying the same thing over and over again. His occasional ad libbing is like a whiplash that reminds me what a clown he is and then he returns to the speech to say the same thing he just said a minute ago once more.

"We will......... leave.......... the paris...... climate accords. It is bad.... for the United.... States. We are going.... to leave... the paris accord... behind. -*Bad deal, tremendeously bad, let me tell ya*- ..............We will do so because... the deal... is not in the United States'.... best interest. Millions of... coal jobs... are lost..... we are spending 100000 trillion.... in this deal.... to pay for.... all other countries.... in the world......................................"


Does he read with these constant pauses in his speech because he is trying to be dramatic or does he have this much trouble reading?

This is embarrassing to watch.

It's because he's so unbelievably fat and slowly dying

Anime Schoolgirl
Nov 28, 2002

evilweasel posted:

mcconnell tried to sabotage it even before trump was elected
putin's making drat sure he gets his rubles worth

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

EwokEntourage posted:

Why did Nicaragua not sign on? I get that Syria is a little preoccupied, but what's with Nicaragua

According to this, it's because Nicaragua believes the Paris accords don't do enough to fight climate change.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord

Gortarius posted:

Does he read with these constant pauses in his speech because he is trying to be dramatic or does he have this much trouble reading?
This is embarrassing to watch.
Probably a mix of both but also I really think he likes hearing his own words and saying things to make people clap. The other 99% of his life seems to be in shambles, so he tries to make this 1% of limelight last as long as possible.

BarbarianElephant
Feb 12, 2015
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Majorian posted:

It would probably be wise for the Dems to get out the vote in those states, take back power, and then implement a new jobs program. Because not doing that means certain defeat.

Yes. But they aren't too happy about jobs programs coming from Democrats. It insults their pride. They want their old jobs back, honest coal mining jobs like their fathers had, not this pussy solar panel factory you guys are proposing (which pays like poo poo because that's factory work these days.)

Plus, of course, it's hard to teleport jobs into the middle of nowhere. Towns that were set up to mine a seam that no longer exists, or next to a river so that the factory can load easily onto the barges, aren't necessarily anywhere convenient for other purposes. There's only so many gun trigger factories the government can set up in nowheresville.

Owlofcreamcheese
May 22, 2005
Probation
Can't post for 9 years!
Buglord
Was anyone listening to NPR when horsely was saying America was one of a small number of countries not in agreement then someone said Syria wasn't just because it was in a massive civil war and the us doesn't have that excuse then horsely was like "well, not yet"?

It seemed really brutal for NPR!

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Night10194 posted:

I've been reading this same reaction all over. That tons of people plan to stick with emissions reduction anyway because they simply see Trump as a short term aberration against a long term trend.

Pretty much everyone agrees that coal is dead, climate change is real, and we gotta do something. Its not only smart policy, its smart business since no one wants to be behind the trend of cleaner energy in 10 or 20 years.

Its just rear end in a top hat Republicans who have turned it into a purely political issue and can't ever admit they were wrong because then they'd be giving the Dems and Liberals a win. And a lot of them who genuinely don't know better because they live in the bubble and drink the Kool Aid.

Crackbone
May 23, 2003

Vlaada is my co-pilot.

Aha seriously? Three countries didn't sign, one of which because they're in the middle of a civil war, another because it wasn't aggressive enough and now the US because "coal and stuff"?

big time bisexual
Oct 16, 2002

Cool Party

empty whippet box posted:

You just think you sound smart and cool by making up stories about vast conspiracies as a way to never be wrong because you can always just fall back on "no I'm not wrong there's a vast conspiracy to cover up the facts that make me right."

I know it sounds ridiculous but Fojar is referencing something that actually happened a few weeks ago.



http://www.ecns.cn/cns-wire/2017/05-05/256281.shtml

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


Waffles Inc. posted:

"I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris" is maybe the dumbest line I've heard him speak from prepared remarks as POTUS


https://twitter.com/billpeduto/status/870370288344674304

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

Rand Paul just said that 6.5 million jobs in the energy sector would be lost because of the Paris agreement.

Are there even 6.5 million jobs at all in the energy sector?

Gortarius
Jun 6, 2013

idiot
Do you suppose he is grabbing the podium and leaning into it because he is so out of shape he can barely stand straight for five minutes?

Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

https://twitter.com/hunterw/status/870372182827962368

smoke sumthin bitch
Dec 14, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

Crackbone posted:

Aha seriously? Three countries didn't sign, one of which because they're in the middle of a civil war, another because it wasn't aggressive enough and now the US because "coal and stuff"?

goes to show how much the world population is under globalist control

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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

big time bisexual posted:

I know it sounds ridiculous but Fojar is referencing something that actually happened a few weeks ago.



http://www.ecns.cn/cns-wire/2017/05-05/256281.shtml

Chinese commitment to Paris agreement lookin good

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Crackbone posted:

Aha seriously? Three countries didn't sign, one of which because they're in the middle of a civil war, another because it wasn't aggressive enough and now the US because "coal and stuff"?

Yeah. All we're doing with this is disinviting ourselves from the world table that literally everyone else is sitting at. Its loving dumb.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

BarbarianElephant posted:

Yes. But they aren't too happy about jobs programs coming from Democrats. It insults their pride. They want their old jobs back, honest coal mining jobs like their fathers had, not this pussy solar panel factory you guys are proposing (which pays like poo poo because that's factory work these days.)

Plus, of course, it's hard to teleport jobs into the middle of nowhere. Towns that were set up to mine a seam that no longer exists, or next to a river so that the factory can load easily onto the barges, aren't necessarily anywhere convenient for other purposes. There's only so many gun trigger factories the government can set up in nowheresville.

Yeah, the issue with coal mining jobs isn't just the economic impact, but also the perception of coal mining as being a proud, masculine profession, a "real job," a "man's job." It's another example of toxic masculinity.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

smoke sumthin bitch posted:

goes to show how much the world population is under globalist control

Ya I imagine flat earthers don't believe in climate change

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

BarbarianElephant posted:

Yes. But they aren't too happy about jobs programs coming from Democrats. It insults their pride. They want their old jobs back, honest coal mining jobs like their fathers had, not this pussy solar panel factory you guys are proposing (which pays like poo poo because that's factory work these days.)

Plus, of course, it's hard to teleport jobs into the middle of nowhere. Towns that were set up to mine a seam that no longer exists, or next to a river so that the factory can load easily onto the barges, aren't necessarily anywhere convenient for other purposes. There's only so many gun trigger factories the government can set up in nowheresville.

I think you're projecting a lot onto them. They may look sideways at new industries for a bit, but I'm sure many workers were skeptical of New Deal jobs programs too. Honest, steady work is honest, steady work.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Pakled posted:

It's another example of toxic masculinity.

Literally, in this case *coughs up black goo*

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

smoke sumthin bitch posted:

goes to show how much the world population is under globalist control

You forgot your triple parentheses.

Mide
Jun 2, 2009

LionArcher posted:

I want to jump back to The home defense/gun talk. I have a best friend who owns guns because of self defense and fun. Fun I understand, but the self defense makes me sad. I'm a former bouncer and have been doing martial arts for 20 years. In a home invasion scenario, I'm far more likely to beat them off with a baseball bat, than he is with his AR.

If it was somebody with my level of training vs my buddy who likes to go the range, I would take the somebody with the training and no weapon over my buddy any day of the week.

That's not a tough guy statement, it's a training statement.

People who go to the range think it makes them a badass. It doesn't. And unless you've actually been in a life or death situation, you don't know how well you'll do.

As for the fantasy about opposing the government if they become (more of) a police state.... that's laughable. They have drones and the psychopath warriors (special forces) working for them.

I'd take 20 years of weapons training over 20 years of martial arts.

pumpinglemma
Apr 28, 2009

DD: Fondly regard abomination.

Trabisnikof posted:

Ya I imagine flat earthers don't believe in climate change

Pakled posted:

You forgot your triple parentheses.
Stop feeding the troll.

highme
May 25, 2001


I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!


https://twitter.com/patrickklepek/status/870365390328791040

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Pakled posted:

Yeah, the issue with coal mining jobs isn't just the economic impact, but also the perception of coal mining as being a proud, masculine profession, a "real job," a "man's job." It's another example of toxic masculinity.

To some degree, sure. Is it enough to make them turn down those jobs en masse? I doubt it.

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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Majorian posted:

I think you're projecting a lot onto them. They may look sideways at new industries for a bit, but I'm sure many workers were skeptical of New Deal jobs programs too. Honest, steady work is honest, steady work.

The romanticism of the coal industry is really bizarre, because I'd wager that a large amount, dare I say a majority, of coal miners were working in coal so that their children wouldn't have to.

These people aren't really interested in coal mining, they're interested in role playing a coal miner.

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