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Crain
Jun 27, 2007

I had a beer once with Stephen Miller and now I like him.

I also tried to ban someone from a Discord for pointing out what an unrelenting shithead I am! I'm even dumb enough to think it worked!

Lote posted:

What do they say about natural gas?

As far as I can tell "natural gas" extends only as far as the stove and the grill out back.

Blind spot otherwise.

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Welcome to GBS
Feb 26, 2011

highme posted:

Nice username/post combo.


What part of the rural wastelands of Oregon do you live?

Veneta area. But I've spent much of my life in Eugene and was born in Portland.

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

hanales posted:

Looks a bit ruff around the edges to me.
:golfclap:

Cran
Mar 23, 2011

evilweasel posted:

november 2018, sooner if your state has meaningful elections in 2017 like virginia and new jersey

I don't know if I can endure this that long.

Depressingly, I don't know if a number of people will be interested that long.

Burning_Monk
Jan 11, 2005
Mad, Bad, and Dangerous to know

Chilichimp posted:

2 million dollars buys a lot more than the 1st home in the suburbs. That one from the first photo looks like about a 600k McMansion in Whitesville suburban Georgia, with a guest house/in-law sweet + single car garage tacked onto the far side of the garage (that appear to be additions).

I imagine what he lived in was, like the truth, somewhere in the middle.

It's not like we have to guess. The address was listed on the original post.

The one with solar panels:


https://www.google.com/maps/place/3...5!4d-74.3268798

For inside pics:
https://www.trulia.com/homes/New_Jersey/Livingston/sold/20588772-30-Fawn-Dr-Livingston-NJ-07039

Burning_Monk fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Jun 1, 2017

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015

Cheating helped me fail the test and stay on the show.
Off topic, but are there any other good sites for political discussion?

Sometimes I have a bit of free time at work, so I go onto the political threads at Neogaf, but I feel as though they're a lot more hostile. Is it just me?

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Crain posted:

Yes. My coal country cousins from WV legitimately say they are against retraining, against altering the state's "industry identity", and want it to be coal or nothing.

One of them is even a loving machinist, but works exclusively on coal mining equipment repairing the heavy machines and making new parts for 80+ year old stuff.

He could make parts for anything. He could be making parts for Turbines, frames for solar panels, anything.

But no. Coal country.

I understand that's the case with WV, but PA, Ohio, and Michigan? A new jobs program has a pretty good chance of working.

EndTimesProfit
Jul 1, 2004

Don't worry son, it's just the Smilin' Mighty Jesus!

Willo567 posted:

Off topic, but are there any other good sites for political discussion?

Sometimes I have a bit of free time at work, so I go onto the political threads at Neogaf, but I feel as though they're a lot more hostile. Is it just me?

There are no good political discussions. Only house chat and arguments about mountains.

stone cold
Feb 15, 2014

Fojar38 posted:

What are you talking about

i deeply admire your commitment to posting despite your illiteracy

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

berserker posted:

To a smart Democratic Party this would cement that whoever is on the 2020 ticket will run on a platform of climate change and staying in the Paris agreement. "If you elect me, we will stay in the Paris agreement, we will not abandon our children and our children's children" We'll see if the Democratic Party is smart.

Cory Booker, 2020: Whats the deal with covfefe anyway, heh

Mr Interweb
Aug 25, 2004

https://twitter.com/SenatorCardin/status/870369371872522244

Wait, Syria and Nicaragua? So that means even Russia is sticking to the Paris agreement?

Nazzadan
Jun 22, 2016



Willo567 posted:

Off topic, but are there any other good sites for political discussion?

Sometimes I have a bit of free time at work, so I go onto the political threads at Neogaf, but I feel as though they're a lot more hostile. Is it just me?

Neogaf is even worse than these terrible forums.

I don't think you'll find a good fair place to talk about politics in a non-hostile place, at least I haven't found one.
Be it here, /int/, /pol/ neogaf, bodybuilding.com, mmo-c, like anywhere is going to have hostile shitbags on one side of the isle or both. It's just do you want your hostile shitbags to be red, blue or somewhere in the middle.

BarbarianElephant
Feb 12, 2015
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Mr Interweb posted:

So that means even Russia is sticking to the Paris agreement?

That's a bit like a friend who convinces you not to go to the party because it'll be lame, then laughs at you the next day for staying home like a friendless loser because the party was amazing.

LionArcher
Mar 29, 2010


Mide posted:

I'd take 20 years of weapons training over 20 years of martial arts.

Than you're a fool unless you want to be a soldier. Martial arts training includes weapons training, and most importantly conflict resolution. Those are far more likely to save your life than a gun, in a majority of scenarios that people encounter in their daily life.

Paracaidas
Sep 24, 2016
Consistently Tedious!

BarbarianElephant posted:

Yes. As an aside "toxic masculinity" is probably a bad phrase to enter the common parlance. It makes sense in an academic context, but like "white privilege" is going to confuse and upset people who aren't educated enough to realize what it means, thinking it's something to do with hating men. I don't really want guys like this to think they are hated for being macho. It's OK to be macho after all, as long as you don't let it box you into making foolish choices.

Fojar38 posted:

The word "feminism" has this same PR problem. In common parlance most people tend to interpret it as being discriminatory towards men. I think that academia has already realized this somewhat and is trying to change the parlance to something that sounds more gender neutral.

What's important is that we avoid using accurate terms in order to appease those who fundamentally disagree. This is how progress is won! It definitely doesn't devalue or erase the advocacy, scholarship, and resources that have been poured into the fields by decades and centuries of those who have come before.

It's also a coincidence that the fields and canon are dominated by women and/or people of color while concerntrolls whinging about the PR problems of inequitable language are overwhelmingly white men.

repeating
Nov 14, 2005

Burning_Monk posted:

It's not like we have to guess. The address was listed on the original post.

The one with solar panels:


https://www.google.com/maps/place/3...5!4d-74.3268798

For inside pics:
https://www.trulia.com/homes/New_Jersey/Livingston/sold/20588772-30-Fawn-Dr-Livingston-NJ-07039

i'm the solar panels under tree branches.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

Mr Interweb posted:

https://twitter.com/SenatorCardin/status/870369371872522244

Wait, Syria and Nicaragua? So that means even Russia is sticking to the Paris agreement?

https://twitter.com/RawStory/status/870331201105645568

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

You can't explain it!

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
There are country songs that glamorize farming. Western songs that beautify cattle ranching. Bluegrass songs that romanize moonshining. I have never heard a happy song about coal mining. Literally every one is, "work hard, get screwed, maybe die today, definitely black lung later".

And these are the jobs we're trying to save?

stone cold
Feb 15, 2014

Paracaidas posted:

What's important is that we avoid using accurate terms in order to appease those who fundamentally disagree. This is how progress is won! It definitely doesn't devalue or erase the advocacy, scholarship, and resources that have been poured into the fields by decades and centuries of those who have come before.

It's also a coincidence that the fields and canon are dominated by women and/or people of color while concerntrolls whinging about the PR problems of inequitable language are overwhelmingly white men.

yeop

also there's a healthy dose of that "how can I shove myself into your whole scene," kind of reminds me of the people who insist the a in LGBTQIA stands for allies not ace people

which is like

gently caress off what the gently caress kind of ally are you

Waffles Inc.
Jan 20, 2005

Willo567 posted:

Off topic, but are there any other good sites for political discussion?

Sometimes I have a bit of free time at work, so I go onto the political threads at Neogaf, but I feel as though they're a lot more hostile. Is it just me?

this will get some eye rolls, but even tho this is a dead comedy forum, it's still basically the best place to talk about basically any large topic

the politics, sports and movie forums are probably the best--and i guess i mean that in terms of (informed posters+good tryhards) to (shitposter) ratio--on the internet

don't go anywhere else unless you want to be bitterly disappointed

BarbarianElephant
Feb 12, 2015
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Paracaidas posted:

What's important is that we avoid using accurate terms in order to appease those who fundamentally disagree.

Use the accurate words when writing your academic paper. Explain things longform when talking to Uncle Notsobright at Thanksgiving.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART
If I was a Republican strategist and Democrats started trying to make a case for climate regulations on the basis of "for the children," I would immediately parry that into "if Democrats care so much about children, then what about ABORTION?" and that would muddle the issue and undermine any kind of inroads the Democrats were trying to make among family-style conservative types.

Not saying that isn't a good idea, I'm just thinking ahead.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

Paracaidas posted:

What's important is that we avoid using accurate terms in order to appease those who fundamentally disagree. This is how progress is won! It definitely doesn't devalue or erase the advocacy, scholarship, and resources that have been poured into the fields by decades and centuries of those who have come before.

It's also a coincidence that the fields and canon are dominated by women and/or people of color while concerntrolls whinging about the PR problems of inequitable language are overwhelmingly white men.

Seems to me like preserving the intangible and abstract value of the work that has been poured into the field is less important than winning elections and getting policies in line with them implemented.

Doing that requires explaining it to Joe Schmoe whose chief source of information is facebook.

Convergence
Apr 9, 2005

He is completely correct. That is the main problem with solar.

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Krispy Kareem posted:

There are country songs that glamorize farming. Western songs that beautify cattle ranching. Bluegrass songs that romanize moonshining. I have never heard a happy song about coal mining. Literally every one is, "work hard, get screwed, maybe die today, definitely black lung later".

And these are the jobs we're trying to save?

Something something Protestant work ethic something something MAH DADDY DID THIS JOB FER 40 YEARS something something

Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

What is it about rich assholes and their stupid grins?

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Burning_Monk posted:

It's not like we have to guess. The address was listed on the original post.

The one with solar panels:


https://www.google.com/maps/place/3...5!4d-74.3268798

For inside pics:
https://www.trulia.com/homes/New_Jersey/Livingston/sold/20588772-30-Fawn-Dr-Livingston-NJ-07039

That house is loving huge.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
Probation
Can't post for 20 hours!

DoctorGonzo posted:

Well coal miners actually do something productive, you might disagree with them.

lol because you're so obviously trying to make this about "elitist liberals don't respect manual labor" when coal miners have been at the forefront of the left and getting hosed by the right for basically ever but you won't ever address the fact that they're getting destroyed by greedy rich fucks and making GBS threads social science majors aren't going to change that

TremorX
Jan 19, 2001

All Hail Big Hairy Mike

It's got nothing to do with being rich. Those are the faces of men who fart whenever the gently caress they want to, including when they're being photographed.

Ivan Shitskin
Nov 29, 2002

LionArcher posted:

As for the fantasy about opposing the government if they become (more of) a police state.... that's laughable. They have drones and the psychopath warriors (special forces) working for them.

That's not really a fantasy though. You can certainly defend yourself from the government if you have guns. John Joe Gray assaulted a police officer and got away with it by arming himself and hiding out on his east Texas property with some militia buddies. He warned the cops that if they came for him to "bring body bags". The authorities didn't want another Waco and left him alone. The charges were dropped after 15 years.

cochise
Sep 11, 2011



I mean how can you consider Sol to be reliable when it will go red giant phase in billions of years. :colbert:

Tatsuta Age
Apr 21, 2005

so good at being in trouble


I had a good post written up but some santorum got on my phone so I threw it away

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe

Wonder if that grin is going to go away:
https://twitter.com/AP/status/870381220449923073

:trumppop:

Gynocentric Regime
Jun 9, 2010

by Cyrano4747

Alter Ego posted:

Something something Protestant work ethic something something MAH DADDY DID THIS JOB FER 40 YEARS something something

Also identity politics

stone cold
Feb 15, 2014

Fojar38 posted:

Seems to me like preserving the intangible and abstract value of the work that has been poured into the field is less important than winning elections and getting policies in line with them implemented.

"seems to me, a man, that you broads are going about all this """""feminism""""" all wrong. let me rebrand you, you dames shut up and ill take over. shrill bitches like you don't win elections, and nobody wants to see one of you not smiling and lookin pretty"

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
---------------------------->

stone cold posted:

"seems to me, a man, that you broads are going about all this """""feminism""""" all wrong. let me rebrand you, you dames shut up and ill take over. shrill bitches like you don't win elections, and nobody wants to see one of you not smiling and lookin pretty"

Okay, have fun repeatedly losing thanks to your unwillingness to switch tactics.

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015

Cheating helped me fail the test and stay on the show.

Nazzadan posted:

Neogaf is even worse than these terrible forums.

I don't think you'll find a good fair place to talk about politics in a non-hostile place, at least I haven't found one.
Be it here, /int/, /pol/ neogaf, bodybuilding.com, mmo-c, like anywhere is going to have hostile shitbags on one side of the isle or both. It's just do you want your hostile shitbags to be red, blue or somewhere in the middle.

I don't know, most of the time it's pretty chill in this thread

Everyone is just angry all the time on Neogaf. People should be angry about Trump, but they have the most nihilistic attitude about it

Waffles Inc.
Jan 20, 2005


this is fuckin funny right here

311 pages into the infinity-th version of politics threads and people still respond to fojar jesus christ y'all

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stone cold
Feb 15, 2014

Fojar38 posted:

Okay, have fun repeatedly losing.

aw shucks, sorry i hurt your penis's feelings by not making 100% of everything all the time about you!

thanks for taking your ball home and not playing, youre a real stand up kind of guy

keep grabbin by the pussy, fojar

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