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Turns out if you extract economic wealth out of something black, you're likely a bad person.
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Is there anything Trump can do that can keep the coal industry alive, at least in the near term? More subsidies?
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Jun 1, 2017 23:27
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Any word on whether Maddow is alive/dead/in cryostasis? She was really drat sick when she did her show Thursday and her twitter has been silent through some things that she'd normally tweet about  .
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Jun 1, 2017 23:27
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VanSandman posted:Turns out if you extract economic wealth out of something black, you're likely a bad person. But enough about the Kardashians. 
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Jun 1, 2017 23:27
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Grapplejack posted:It's more an issue of storing and moving that energy where the actual difficulty comes in. You have to plan for night and cloudy / overcast days. Sure, you have to plan for night and cloudy/overcast days, and there are a multitude of proposed and implemented methods for doing so. Mr Frothy wasn't arguing along those lines though, he was going "sun intermittent therefore solar bad." Pakled posted:Couldn't Congress smother this in its crib if they wanted? No interstate compacts without consent of Congress and all. "We're not actually signing onto the Paris Climate Agreement. We just think it's a good idea." Though actually what QuoProQuid said.
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Jun 1, 2017 23:28
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Pittsburgh is "the Paris of Appalachia" so Trump should have probably tried another P named city. Also Pittsburgh didn't loving vote for Trump except for the rich shithead parts/suburbia and even then places like Monroeville where his campaign base of operations for Western PA voted for Hillary in most of the Wards. Also using Pittsburgh as an example of a city and people wanting to bring back the glory of heavy industry is insulting because the region has spent over half a goddamn century trying to clean up the devastation left behind from the heavy industry sector ditching us to the curb. The city has made great strides in being environmentally clean and we still have a ways to go with our air/river quality
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Jun 1, 2017 23:28
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goddamn mueller hurry the gently caress up
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Jun 1, 2017 23:30
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botany posted:I'm gonna take a wild guess here and say that CWII doesn't start with a bunch of states voluntarily upholding regulations that have been abandoned on a federal level. I know DND likes to be dramatic but come the gently caress on. It does seem kind of like the decline of a strong central government and a reversion to allied individual states. Like, if the federal system stops providing necessary things and regions that can form mutual aid pacts to survive, that's pretty weird and sci-fi. I could see it happening for education too, as state school systems protect themselves from federal abandonment and depredation.
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Jun 1, 2017 23:30
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https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/870342307031265280
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Jun 1, 2017 23:33
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business hammocks posted:It does seem kind of like the decline of a strong central government and a reversion to allied individual states. Like, if the federal system stops providing necessary things and regions that can form mutual aid pacts to survive, that's pretty weird and sci-fi. If this leads to Blue States no longer sending majority of their tax revenue to prop up all the failed red states like today, that's good. They can have fun with their coal economies all they want.
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Jun 1, 2017 23:33
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Dogwood Fleet posted:Any word on whether Maddow is alive/dead/in cryostasis? She was really drat sick when she did her show Thursday and her twitter has been silent through some things that she'd normally tweet about who is going to put a stop to hillary, when will teh killing end
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Jun 1, 2017 23:33
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Those of you who can read German, this is a pretty good article on what exiting the Paris Accord actually means and why it's bad for the US: http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/natur/donald-trump-und-welt-klimavertrag-das-bedeutet-der-ausstieg-der-usa-a-1150356.html For those of you who can't read our gibberish, the short version is basically that the US won't be part of the talks surrounding the climate agreement anymore. Those talks are not about emission goals, since the signed states set those themselves anyway, but they are an international opportunity to make deals. Under the present agreement, countries are investing heavily into renewable energy infrastructure, which typically takes the form of, e.g., Germany investing billions into India's renewable energy sources. This means India gets top of the line technology on the cheap, while German engineering firms get lucrative contracts. Such agreements are also bargaining chips in negotiations on all sorts of deals from anti-terrorism cooperation to the refugee situation. The US is going to lose a lot of influence by no longer sitting at those tables. This will mean loss of contracts for US firms and loss of investment money, all in a country like the US, where more people work in renewable energy than in oil, gas and coal combined. And then there's obviously the danger of global warming, which would hit certain US areas hard anyway, but this is really about a lot more than just climate change.
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Jun 1, 2017 23:34
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LOL, what a little pissbaby. I dunno what's wrong with me, Sean, but I definitely find it funny.
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Jun 1, 2017 23:35
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I don't know the answer to his question, but I just laughed for a solid 5 seconds at that graphic.
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Jun 1, 2017 23:35
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Rad Russian posted:If this leads to Blue States no longer sending majority of their tax revenue to prop up all the failed red states like today, that's good. They can have fun with their coal economies all they want. I'm sure we'd have lots of fun absorbing millions of refugees from the failing south and rust belt.
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Jun 1, 2017 23:36
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JazzFlight posted:LOL, what a little pissbaby.  I'm a Californian though, so I'm already doomed.
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Jun 1, 2017 23:36
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Crain posted:Yes. My coal country cousins from WV legitimately say they are against retraining, against altering the state's "industry identity", and want it to be coal or nothing. Remember that Hillary gave a speech about how she was the only candidate who had a plan for training out of work miners in coal country in new and emerging green energy industries, and literally the only thing that coal country actually heard was "we're going to put a lot of coal miners out of work", with everything else being white noise to them. Of course, thats also the only thing a lot of leftists heard as well. berserker posted:To a smart Democratic Party this would cement that whoever is on the 2020 ticket will run on a platform of climate change and staying in the Paris agreement. "If you elect me, we will stay in the Paris agreement, we will not abandon our children and our children's children" We'll see if the Democratic Party is smart. You mean like the candidate in 2016 did and the response from leftists was "gently caress YOU, BITCH, I'M VOTING GREEN!!!!!", "FRACKING!!!!!", "I don't believe you!", and "WHY WON'T YOU SUCK COALS DICK!"? St. Dogbert posted:The first person to come up with a feasible manner for removing stupid people's right to vote wins one hundred (100) brownie points. Sanity test before voting, testing if they understand basic facts of reality. The VRA and Katzenbach V. Morgan doesn't prohibit tests for voting, just specifically literacy tests. Basic science, math and reality can still be used as a barrier against letting the insane vote. Alternatively, declare it a 4 day weekened to vote and offer free rides to the closest polling place, but put all polling places in the big city, in the places that conservatives think of as "those" neighborhoods. VanSandman posted:Turns out if you extract economic wealth out of something black, you're likely a bad person. So all of you devs who made games for the Ps2, 3 and 4, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Jun 1, 2017 |
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Jun 1, 2017 23:36
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The best part is all the people demanding that Hannity sue The Onion over that.
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Jun 1, 2017 23:37
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botany posted:Those of you who can read German, this is a pretty good article on what exiting the Paris Accord actually means and why it's bad for the US: ya this all makes sense not your translation (i mean, it does) but the outcome - that our dumb president's move to 'create jobs' is going to destroy opportunities for jobs yep
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Jun 1, 2017 23:37
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I hope he takes his followers' advice and sues the onion over this
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Jun 1, 2017 23:38
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Mr Interweb posted:Is there anything Trump can do that can keep the coal industry alive, at least in the near term? More subsidies? There is nothing they can do to un-ring the bell with Coal. Whether you're talking about giant self-driving Caterpillars out in the strip mines of Wyoming or new shaft mining construction in the Appalachians, that ship has sailed. All these old (and not so old) coal miners know exactly why they're sitting on their asses unemployed. They watched the companies buy the machines that could do 10 times the aggregate work with 1/5th the staff. They saw it coming, they were standing on the tracks and even though the train was only moving at 5mph, they still got hit. This entire exercise is longing masturbation for one of those old time movies showing industrial production in the 1920's. Machine shops with literally 500 (white) guys on a shift all buzzing around, being industrious. That is a dead dream and it will stay dead.
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Jun 1, 2017 23:40
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botany posted:Those of you who can read German, this is a pretty good article on what exiting the Paris Accord actually means and why it's bad for the US: Well that's no good. 
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Jun 1, 2017 23:41
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skylined! posted:ya this all makes sense B-b-but...the job creators~
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Jun 1, 2017 23:41
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Hopefully the next incarnation of Sherman gets to finish the job then. Sherman wasn't all too hot about 'the negros' and poo poo my dude, might wanna be careful with that implication 
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Jun 1, 2017 23:41
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Carlosologist posted:https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/870394672274952196 Countdown to the usual gang of idiots on the right screaming about how this is more treasonous than Trump's collusion with the Russians
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Jun 1, 2017 23:43
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botany posted:Those of you who can read German, this is a pretty good article on what exiting the Paris Accord actually means and why it's bad for the US:  I hope at the end of all this Christopher Walken hosts something live in the White House, it's on every station, he walks down that hall Obama did when Bin Laden was killed, but Christopher Walken walks down the hallway, gets to the mic, and just says: the aristocrats. Fade to black, Looney Toons credit music plays.
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Jun 1, 2017 23:43
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Yardbomb posted:Sherman wasn't all too hot about 'the negros' and poo poo my dude, might wanna be careful with that implication There's some GBS poster who's obsessed with hating the south and he got some redtext featuring Sherman quotes. I thought it was goons putting words in shermans mouth but nope it's some real  stuff.
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Jun 1, 2017 23:44
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the good news is, as a nation, our pullout game is stronger than ever
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Jun 1, 2017 23:45
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Jun 1, 2017 23:46
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business hammocks posted:I'm sure we'd have lots of fun absorbing millions of refugees from the failing south and rust belt. I'm ready to claim refugee status right now if it'll get me out of Kansas
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Jun 1, 2017 23:46
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Grimdude posted:Witnessed this little showdown today. OP has been making GBS threads on Dems (which he is) since Day One of Trump's presidency. I'm sure there are both people who agree and disagree with him in this thread, so what's the overall take? For me personally; OP is being incredibly naive in thinking the Democrats should just be super civil and only criticize Trump if its of utmost necessity. I'm sure being spineless nerds with boring and sound policies will totally work. I was watching one of those "Is Islam a religion of Peace" debates in the UK and it's always fascinating to deconstruct political discussions and realize why nothing ever get's done in politics. When people aren't busy arguing past each other, refuting ridiculous straw men they've set up for the other side, and just generally trying to be the first to win at Logical Fallacy Bingo they're going on multi-page long tangents about the definition of "irrational". And to top it all off, a good amount of the time the actual topic of the debate, is not only vague and ill-defined, allowing it to be open to interpretation, but the answer isn't even really that relevant to solving the actual real-world problems the debate is trying to address. -Blackadder- fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Jun 1, 2017 |
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Jun 1, 2017 23:47
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buglord posted:There's some GBS poster who's obsessed with hating the south and he got some redtext featuring Sherman quotes. I thought it was goons putting words in shermans mouth but nope it's some real Is it pre-war or post-war stuff because there is some horrific stuff from before the war but I'm having a hard time finding any comments after emancipation. In any case, I think he is better known for hating rebels than he is people for their race so I want to make it clear that's the spirit I was invoking.
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Jun 1, 2017 23:50
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Fulchrum posted:Remember that Hillary gave a speech about how she was the only candidate who had a plan for training out of work miners in coal country in new and emerging green energy industries, and literally the only thing that coal country actually heard was "we're going to put a lot of coal miners out of work", with everything else being white noise to them. West Virginians are loving stupid and so hard for coal. Source: West Virginian. https://twitter.com/NYDailyNews/status/870401414903734273
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Jun 1, 2017 23:51
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achillesforever6 posted:Pittsburgh is "the Paris of Appalachia" so Trump should have probably tried another P named city. When I look at Pittsburgh, I say to myself "There is a city that loves Rust Belt capitalism. There is a city that hasn't embraced the future with a seething desperation, terrified of what it nearly became. There is a city that isn't psychologically and physically scarred by the betrayals of the Reagan years. Pittsburgh isn't a city that maniacally proclaims its bright future, to hide it's collective insecurity and existential dread. They don't watch Detroit carefully, as an omen of what almost was and could yet still be. "Also they don't give two shits about sports there, it's really weird."
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business hammocks posted:I'm sure we'd have lots of fun absorbing millions of refugees from the failing south and rust belt.
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Jun 1, 2017 23:51
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business hammocks posted:I'm sure we'd have lots of fun absorbing millions of refugees from the failing south and rust belt. We don't have to take them in. Set up safe zones in their own states.
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Jun 1, 2017 23:53
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TyrantWD posted:We don't have to take them in. Set up safe zones in their own states. That's, uhhh... called an occupation. Which is a thing that can get messy.
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Jun 1, 2017 23:55
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Majorian posted:That's, uhhh... called an occupation. Which is a thing that can get messy. pretty sure someone (TRUMP?) said some poo poo like this way back about Syria
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Jun 1, 2017 23:56
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A no fly zone over the flyover states
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Arrgytehpirate posted:West Virginians are loving stupid and so hard for coal. Okay, but whats the excuse for leftists still saying that her speech was "gently caress all of you, I hope you die in a ditch. I really hate you on a personal level and want to laugh at your pain. Bye."
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