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hiddenriverninja posted:Everything from B:TAS to JLU is self-contained and mostly great. There are some self-contained movies that are fair to middling, then you get to JL: Gods and Monsters and The Killing Joke where you find out Bruce Timm broke his brain somewhere. The Killing Joke, I think, made me look back at the animated series / New Batman Adventures and realize that Timm was always a weirdo perv, but he had the creative voices of people like Eric Radomski and Paul Dini tempering him.
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Hell, Batman Beyond even worked that into its backstory. At some point Bruce and Barbra hosed, behind Dick's back. Just, what the gently caress is your obsession with having a man old enough to be her father gently caress Babs, Timm?
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Burkion posted:Hell, Batman Beyond even worked that into its backstory. At some point Bruce and Barbra hosed, behind Dick's back. Why are you trying to deflect the blame onto Timm when Barbara is the one who keeps loving her Bat-Dad? Does she have no agency or responsibility for her actions?
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I don't get it either. I really don't. BatGirl was never a romance thing for Bruce in the entire history of the comics as far as I have ever been able to find out. Like not even when the first Bat Girl was introduced to make sure everyone knew that they had a case of the Not Gays, she was Robin's love interest. Bat Woman was Batman's. It is entirely a thing Timm and Timm alone seems to want and push for.
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To be fair, Batman Beyond didn't portray Bruce and Barbara's relationship as good or healthy. It drove Dick away and eventually led to Barbara being estranged and resentful.
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Burkion posted:I don't get it either. I really don't. isn't Batwoman Bruce's cousin?
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hiddenriverninja posted:isn't Batwoman Bruce's cousin? Batwoman is a different character from Batgirl.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Batwoman is a different character from Batgirl. And I think Burkion was talking about Silver Age Batwoman.
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hiddenriverninja posted:isn't Batwoman Bruce's cousin? As the two above said, I'm talking about Kathy, who was literally thrown into the comics in the 50s to give Bruce a love interest. You know one besides Off Brand Lois Lane. The original Batgirl is also not who you think it is. It's, weird. Also I don't think Bruce has a cousin, are you sure you're not thinking about Super Girl? Which, whoo, there is some story to how she came about.
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Time to hit Wikipedia, then.
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Burkion posted:As the two above said, I'm talking about Kathy, who was literally thrown into the comics in the 50s to give Bruce a love interest. The current Batwoman is his cousin.
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Burkion posted:Hell, Batman Beyond even worked that into its backstory. At some point Bruce and Barbra hosed, behind Dick's back. To be 'fair' I think when he adopts Dick there's like a 13 year difference in their ages, tops. And I don't remember Barbra being younger than Dick by some great degree. Conversely, I really don't want to think about this subject anymore.
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Henry Zaga of Teen Wolf and 13 Reasons Why have been cast as Sunspot in the New Mutants movie. This casting is controversial, though, since although Zaga is Brazilian like Sunspot the comic book character is half-black half-white and just like real life black Brazilians he had a difficult life because of racism.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:The current Batwoman is his cousin. Yeah, isn't her thing that she's about the only gay superhero in the main DC line outside random "Wonder Woman/Poison Ivy/Harley are totally bisexual so here she is making out with a hot chick before resuming her relationship with a man!" crap?
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Harley broke up with the joker for good like a few years ago and has officially been with Ivy since, whenever she isn't in prison. Other lesbian characters include Renee Montoya, Maggie Sawyer, Etta Candy, Barbara Minerva, Natasha Irons, and Traci 13(who is with Irons). There's probably more, but those are the only ones on my pull list. The only gay men I know of are Aqualad and The Ray but there's probably more John Wick of Dogs fucked around with this message at 01:20 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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The original Green Lantern was/is gay for the longest, not sure if he still is. There's been a lot of LGBT characters in DC honestly. And not just the usual pandering bullshit you find which Harley typically falls under. One can even add Batman to the list thanks to George Clooney and, well, a lot of jokes one could infer from him.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Harley broke up with the joker for good like a few years ago and has officially been with Ivy since, whenever she isn't in prison. Batwoman dated Renee and was gonna marry Maggie but DC decreed that superheroes can't have personal lives because
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Pretty much every single character in the DC Bombshells book is queer to varying degrees.
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Burkion posted:The original Green Lantern was/is gay for the longest, not sure if he still is. The New 52 Alan Scott is gay. That version of the character is only a few years old. The original might be coming back with Rebirth? I dunno, I've fallen off due to money.
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Detective No. 27 posted:The New 52 Alan Scott is gay. That version of the character is only a few years old. The original might be coming back with Rebirth? I dunno, I've fallen off due to money. Yeah. He's gay because his son, who was gay, no longer existed in New 52.
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Ah yeah, forgot about Obsidian.
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Wonder Woman was awesome. The first DC movie I've been entertained with in a long time. Synder is clearly the issue and, while I'm sad about the circumstances, I'm glad he is gone and we can get new approaches on these films.
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Excelsiortothemax posted:Wonder Woman was awesome. The first DC movie I've been entertained with in a long time.  I went and shortened your post into an image.
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Man sucks about his daughter but at least my movies are gonna be good now!!!!
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Ghosthotel posted:Man sucks about his daughter but at least my movies are gonna be good now!!!! No one tell 'em that Snyder helped write WW's story! 
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Equeen posted:No one tell 'em that Snyder helped write WW's story! #NOTMYSNYDER
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Equeen posted:No one tell 'em that Snyder helped write WW's story! I know and he can stay behind a writers desk rather than a camera.
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How would that change anything?
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Can't direct movies...?
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Excelsiortothemax posted:I know and he can stay behind a writers desk rather than a camera. Except he's a really good director though? Like if you admit that he's a good writer, and he's a good director by objective fact, then where is your problem with the guy? Wouldn't your problem fall more onto the other people that wrote the script? Or maybe the Executives that allowed it to go forward as it was to begin with? Maybe with Nolan who creatively steered the movies in the direction they are? What I'm trying to say is, I don't think you know why you don't like Snyder.
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I didn't know there were people who liked Suicide Squad but neither of Man of Steel or Batman v Superman, which is what it would take for Snyder's direction to be the problem.
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Excelsiortothemax posted:Wonder Woman was awesome. The first DC movie I've been entertained with in a long time. Snyder isn't "clearly" the issue, since he didn't write or direct Suicide Squad and that was the worst DC film to date.
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Excelsiortothemax posted:Wonder Woman was awesome. The first DC movie I've been entertained with in a long time. Oh the guy who cast Wonder Woman and wrote the story for the movie and assisted Patty in making the film is the problem?
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WillyTheNewGuy posted:Snyder isn't "clearly" the issue, since he didn't write or direct Suicide Squad and that was the worst DC film to date. Look, it's very important that someone is at fault for my not liking something, even if it isn't their fault. It's really too bad that the internet decided on Snyder rather than Geoff Johns, but what are you going to do? We must sacrifice Zack to Marduk so that Superman can be in color.
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Jenkins was inspired by Snyder when directing WW and it shows. Parts of it looked like his movie, especially the action scenes and Diana's bedtime story.
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Excelsiortothemax posted:Can't direct movies...? Snyder's films ooze personality and a signature style. Whatever faults you might have with Man of Steel or BvS, neither films were poorly directed imo. [edit] Josh Gad hinting at something https://twitter.com/joshgad/status/870441605760655360 teagone fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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Well we never got PSH, but Josh Gad is acceptable casting ... assuming that's what's being hinted at, instead of voice casting for animated DC.
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Clearly Jenkins was just a puppet of Snyder with no agency of her own as director.
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sean10mm posted:Clearly Jenkins was just a puppet of Snyder with no agency of her own as director. 
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sean10mm posted:Clearly Jenkins was just a puppet of Snyder with no agency of her own as director. As opposed to the other posts which imply that Jenkins' greatest and most notable strength is not being Zack Snyder
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