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mishaq posted:everyone uses linux my friend, it powers the internet linux is just some free as in beer middleware SDK that apache and nginx links against
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Systemd is ok, journald is not.
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~Coxy posted:linux is just some free as in beer middleware SDK that apache and nginx links against my dude have you heard about unikernels?
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binary logs are 100% fine if they are self-synchronizing get over yourselves text-lovers
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Trouble is that journald is not self synchronizing which is hell of dumb
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mishaq posted:systemd is actually really good
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why does journalctl have its own lovely built in pager
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today i am working on an ancient debian without systemd and sysvinit doesn't have a mechanism to restart failed services lmao
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spankmeister posted:my dude have you heard about unikernels? quote:Drawbridge is a research prototype of a new form of virtualization for application sandboxing. Drawbridge combines two core technologies: a picoprocess, which is a process-based isolation container with a minimal kernel API surface, and a library OS, which is a version of Windows enlightened to run efficiently within a picoprocess.
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"enlightened"
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my stepdads beer posted:today i am working on an ancient debian without systemd and sysvinit doesn't have a mechanism to restart failed services lmao hosed up!!!
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my stepdads beer posted:today i am working on an ancient debian without systemd and sysvinit doesn't have a mechanism to restart failed services lmao job security
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my stepdads beer posted:today i am working on an ancient debian without systemd and sysvinit doesn't have a mechanism to restart failed services lmao code:
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OWLS! posted:
Wow this really fits with the unix philosophy
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hifi posted:Wow this really fits with the unix philosophy thankfully systemd exists and solves this finally
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https://jdebp.eu/Softwares/nosh/ this actually looks like a decent, real ~*UNIX philosophy*~ answer to systemd. wouldn't mind using this at all if i was on bsd which i'm not
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sounds like poo poo
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looking forward to the people who hate systemd all switching to void linux because it uses runit
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these people dont matter
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and moreover it doesn't matter what they think a specter is haunting linux the specter of systemd
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i still don't understand why people hate systemd can anyone distill the arguments against it to an easily digestible shitpost?
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:can anyone distill the arguments against it to an easily digestible shitpost? something about "unix philosophy" and redirecting streams of text straight into your rear end
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:i still don't understand why people hate systemd https://twitter.com/PetiteCloudlet/status/726135725247352832
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:i still don't understand why people hate systemd linux users are idiot grognards
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:i still don't understand why people hate systemd you fall in love with your computer. small details of the workings of your operating system become part of your identity, though you can't really understand it...then, the computer changes. is this still the computer you fell in love with? why do things need to change?
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:i still don't understand why people hate systemd "it is not written in bash" "it was started by Lennart Poettering" "I don't like the (optional) on-disk format of the journal" "it uses dbus" "systemd's PID1 does more and is bigger than sysvinit's PID1" "I think there might be this other project that possibly is doing something similar. I don't really know anything about it, but I'm pretty sure it is better than systemd" https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1149530#p1149530 quote:can anyone distill the arguments against it to an easily digestible shitpost? no because systemd is good
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:i still don't understand why people hate systemd horse poo poo shovelers upset over the invention of the engine
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Breakfast All Day posted:horse poo poo shovelers upset over the invention of the engine
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Breakfast All Day posted:horse poo poo shovelers upset over the invention of the engine
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Breakfast All Day posted:horse poo poo shovelers upset over the invention of the engine
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Breakfast All Day posted:leonard "harry" pottering
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i do wish the engine didn't flip around service stop [service] to systemctl [service] stop
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Breakfast All Day posted:horse poo poo shovelers upset over the invention of the engine
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doesn't systemd mount the EFI variables as read-write by default, so it's possible to literally brick your hardware by accidentally deleting the directory they're mounted under? edit: apparently somebody already brought this up. "well, in this one case that doesn't happen very often, systemd will need to write to them so they're mounted read-write by default at all times for everybody. if this ruins your computer then you should buy another less lovely one anyway and git gud." Doc Block fucked around with this message at 09:53 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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deleting your efi partition wouldnt brick your hardware
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youd have to boot with a usb stick but you'd just need to reinstall the bootloader
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Doc Block posted:doesn't systemd mount the EFI variables as read-write by default, so it's possible to literally brick your hardware by accidentally deleting the directory they're mounted under? I think this is now fixed on the kernel level, all important efivarfs entries gets the immutable attr set
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Breakfast All Day posted:horse poo poo shovelers upset over the invention of the engine
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