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MonsterEnvy posted:As this is not a fight over a huge deal unlike their previous campaigns decided by players, it's more likely for them to actually let events fall as they may. Hahahahaha yeah right The bigmarines are going to come out of nowhere and suddenly save everything at the last second
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goose willis posted:Hahahahaha yeah right I dunno, I'm inclined to agree with Envy--there's nothing real at stake, so a Chaos win is possible. That said, Space Marine players outnumber Chaos like 5:1 so they'll probably win with sheer numbers
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Safety Factor posted:Somewhere, a ham is weeping as he rips the powerfists off of his lovingly painted army and replaces them with bare plastic arms holding thunder hammers. Remember when the switched the stats of spinefists and fleshborers for no reason? Good times.
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spacegoat posted:Remember when the switched the stats of spinefists and fleshborers for no reason? Good times.  Speaking of Tyranids, I put together a simple spreadsheet so I could have a better idea of the actual costs of the models. There is some ridiculous bullshit here. Like having to tally up a Hive Crone's five pieces of wargear when 3/5 are unique to itself. Or a Haruspex who has three unique items, but only one, its tongue, actually costs points. The rest are baked in and cost 0. It's a completely inconsistent system and it's infuriating. There's no easy way to say "switch out a pair of monstrous scything talons for a..." because some weapon options are actually cheaper than the standard equipment on some models. I also like how strangle webs went from being lovely S2 templates no one cared about to being lovely S2 guns with d3 shots that don't auto-hit like other former template weapons.
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TheChirurgeon posted:I dunno, I'm inclined to agree with Envy--there's nothing real at stake, so a Chaos win is possible. That said, Space Marine players outnumber Chaos like 5:1 so they'll probably win with sheer numbers Xenos will probably be involved in some way too. It would be funny if something like the Genestealer Cults won.
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Safety Factor posted:[...]I put together a simple spreadsheet so I could have a better idea of the actual costs of the models. There is some ridiculous bullshit here. Like having to tally up a Hive Crone's five pieces of wargear when 3/5 are unique to itself. Or a Haruspex who has three unique items, but only one, its tongue, actually costs points. The rest are baked in and cost 0. It's a completely inconsistent system and it's infuriating. GW.txt
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I'm going to be very disappointed if the Imperium loses in the Fires of Cyraxus. I'm sick of the Tau seemingly winning almost every engagement they have with the Imperium, and the Tau winning against poo poo like ordinatus and an actual titan legion is stretching believability somewhat, imo. Let Taros be their victory book. I think a story about the Tau overreaching and getting smacked down would be much more interesting for a second go. Aesaar fucked around with this message at 03:10 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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Speaking of, does anyone have an idea about which to take between Harpy and Hive Crone? Is it really just as simple as "take the tentaclids one vs. vehicles and the other against meat enemies?" I'm going to enjoy slamming an FMC into enemy lines turn 1 to eat mans screaming either way 
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MonsterEnvy posted:Xenos will probably be involved in some way too. Da green kroosade
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Aesaar posted:I'm going to be very disappointed if the Imperium loses in the Fires of Cyraxus. I'm sick of the Tau seemingly winning almost every engagement they have with the Imperium, and the Tau winning against poo poo like ordinatus and an actual titan legion is stretching believability somewhat, imo. I agree with this. Having another Tau victory would just be lame. Even when they got their pope merc'd by an assassin they still soundly beat the Imperium. Also, Tau are trash and belong in a landfill.
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Hustlin Floh posted:Also, Tau are trash and belong in a landfill.  The only other faction besides genestealers that I never felt "belonged" in the game were the Tau If anything they feel like they'd be a faction in some sort of near-future mecha game or something, they don't even fit into 40k in the slightest
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I am 100% in favor of anything that results in more space-weeaboo death. Worst writing of all the 40k factions imo.
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Whenever I see Tau it's like looking at another company's product range being awkwardly fit into the 40k canon with only the loosest of justifications for their existence
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goose willis posted:So do we have Alpha Legion rules yet or what Absolutely friend! Why, there is a whole amazing game focused on giving the Legions fun and thematic special rules. 
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It is admittedly hard to blame GW for wanting a slice of that weeb money. They're definitely another sector of the nerd economy that will spend way to much money on their hobby
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I have never met a Tau player who didn't talk like he was verbally posting on 4chan.
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TheChirurgeon posted:Sorry chuds, Tau own Okay I would be okay if they were all TronTau.
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That looks cool as gently caress and I will never deny that Tau don't look cool My problem is that Tau don't look 40k
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Tau also have incredibly bad fluff which I regard as even worse than the new non-silent Necrons However the Necrons look amazing and have always looked like they belong in 40k so I give them a very easy pass because you can still pretend they're just the old Necrons and ignore the "Tomb Kings in Space" aspect
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I dunno if I'd say they don't look 40k. The original tau model range reminded me of Eldar. Fire warriors and devilfish and all isn't that far off from Eldar looks. Modern day stormsurge and riptide tau doesn't look 40k.
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look at these bad, wrong opinions
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TheChirurgeon posted:look at these bad, wrong opinions Burn this thread down along with the imperium
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Death to the false moderator
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goose willis posted:
The Genestealers (Particularly them) and Tau fit in fine. The Tau looks wise are a bit like Eldar but focused on being more practical. While the Genestealers are infiltrator aliens something that fits in quite well. Honestly despite people saying the Tau are based on anime, I don't see it.
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MonsterEnvy posted:The Genestealers (Particularly them) and Tau fit in fine. The Tau looks wise are a bit like Eldar but focused on being more practical. While the Genestealers are infiltrator aliens something that fits in quite well. it literally begins and ends with 'robots = anime'. They're a race of highly militant aliens who subjugate others to fit into their rigid caste system in the name of their own good. They're totally 40k
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sexpig by night posted:it literally begins and ends with 'robots = anime'. They're a race of highly militant aliens who subjugate others to fit into their rigid caste system in the name of their own good. They're totally 40k Yeah it's not like other factions don't have Robots as well. Honestly I would say Eldar are far more fitting of the stereo type they actually use melee weapons and such with their huge robots.
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TheChirurgeon posted:Sorry chuds, Tau own Goddamn this owns
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MonsterEnvy posted:The Genestealers (Particularly them) and Tau fit in fine. The Tau looks wise are a bit like Eldar but focused on being more practical. While the Genestealers are infiltrator aliens something that fits in quite well. pretty sure ive seen them with katanas
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goose willis posted:That looks cool as gently caress and I will never deny that Tau don't look cool How are they not 40K but the Eldar are?
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goose willis posted:That's cool but we both know the Ultramarines are going to win Anybody ever heard of these planets before? If they're made up just for this, then the bad guys actually stand a chance of winning. If it was Ultramar then they'd win no contest. MonsterEnvy posted:As this is not a fight over a huge deal unlike their previous campaigns decided by players, it's more likely for them to actually let events fall as they may. Exactly TheChirurgeon posted:Sorry chuds, Tau own TRONau is amazing goose willis posted:My problem is that Tau don't look 40k Da fuq? Sure they do. Fire Warriors and Devilfish and everything are pretty classic sci-fi. Tau are the little grey men of 40k. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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Nifara posted:Dark Eldar actually come out ahead because Dark Lances don't count as heavy when mounted on a vehicle! Nice avatar, Edwina.
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Proletariat Beowulf posted:Speaking of, does anyone have an idea about which to take between Harpy and Hive Crone? Is it really just as simple as "take the tentaclids one vs. vehicles and the other against meat enemies?" I'm going to enjoy slamming an FMC into enemy lines turn 1 to eat mans screaming either way It's probably gonna take me a few games to figure stuff like this out. I do know that carnifexes and tyrants without melee weapons are dumb as hell since they have no AP. So I am cutting limbs off and painting scything talons.
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I don't know if anyone else came up with this yet, so feel free to call me a moron if so, but with the 8th edition rules it seems like you could build a stupidly potent Boyz mob army which would be pretty much guaranteed to assault on turn 1 and do insane damage. 4x 30 boyz = 720 pts 3x weirdboyz = 186 pts 1x Ghazghkull = 215 pts That's 1151 points. All the weirdboyz take Da Jump. Set up as far from the enemy as possible with the weirdboyz and Ghaz clustered in the middle of the boyz units. Cast Da Jump on 2 boyz units and Ghaz. It can't fail with that many models close to the weirdboyz. You're likely to get perils, but they have 4 wounds each so they won't be killed by it. Try keep the boyz units within 6" of ghaz. 60 boyz and ghaz are now 9" away from enemy units. If they are within 6" of ghaz they can advance. They also get to re-roll charge rolls. When they get their charge off (which they probably will) you'll get 5 attacks per boy. Obviously you won't get all of the models within 1" in the first turn, but if you manage it with one unit that unit gets 151 attacks, hitting on 3+ (100.6 hits), wounding marines on 4+ (50 wounds). With 3+ saves that's 17 dead marines in the first charge, from one of the two units, not counting Ghaz. Next turn, Da Jump in 2 more units of 30 boyz. Assuming you somehow maneuvered so each boyz unit had at least 1 model within 6" of ghaz that's a total of 604 attacks just from the boyz. You could also add more weirdboyz or more units of boyz to taste.
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Was looking at the Primaris Lieutenant and I find the Company Heroes rule interesting.  I think Deffdreads have the same rule.
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:I don't know if anyone else came up with this yet, so feel free to call me a moron if so, but with the 8th edition rules it seems like you could build a stupidly potent Boyz mob army which would be pretty much guaranteed to assault on turn 1 and do insane damage. You can only attempt da jump once per turn so sadly yes you are.
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