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This is my triangle attack story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-uknVS7kJE&t=3857s
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What fuckery is going on there that the attack did x5 (or more) damage? Listed damage is only 18, and I was under the assumption Triangle Attack only made it an auto crit. Boss bar goes from ?? to 80 for reference. On the subject of Pegasus Knights, I'm amazed anyone thinks Palla is better than Catria in this game. Catria has significantly better overall stats even at base, along with being 3 levels lower, and her growths overall are better as well. Falcon Knight's bases don't remotely fix Palla's speed issue either. Lord Koth fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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Jun 2, 2017 01:09
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Lord Koth posted:What fuckery is going on there that the attack did x5 (or more) damage? Listed damage is only 18, and I was under the assumption Triangle Attack only made it an auto crit. Boss bar goes from ?? to 80 for reference. Pierce is a skill that negates the enemy defense.
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Jun 2, 2017 01:13
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The Iron Rose posted:Pierce is a skill that negates the enemy defense. Oh, right. I'd forgotten skills were a thing in Sacred Stones. Been a long while since I've played.
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Jun 2, 2017 01:19
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The Iron Rose posted:Pierce is a skill that negates the enemy defense. Yeah. It's exclusive to wyvern knights in Sacred Stones. It also crashed my game on the final floor of the post-game temple because it doesn't let the enemy's health drain finish before you attack again if you're using a javelin and the enemy can't hit back. If your next attack lands while the enemy's health is draining, it hard locks. You also can't do anything but reset because restarting just forces the same event to play again.
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Jun 2, 2017 01:21
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Lord Koth posted:What fuckery is going on there that the attack did x5 (or more) damage? Listed damage is only 18, and I was under the assumption Triangle Attack only made it an auto crit. Boss bar goes from ?? to 80 for reference. Because my Catria never gained enough speed to double consistently, nor more strength than Palla and she had a lot less defence until Falcoknight, where she only had a little less defence.
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Jun 2, 2017 01:24
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ungulateman posted:the game is not difficult except for the tricks, you mean lol, the infinite range damage attack was the thing i was happiest to see once i realized it couldn't actually kill anyone so it was a free turn
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Jun 2, 2017 01:46
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If you think that stage was bad the final one would make you grind your 3DS to dust.
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Jun 2, 2017 01:50
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The final one is ironically easier to deal with because you should have Tatiana's Fortify at that point.
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Jun 2, 2017 01:53
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Man, I can't remember any infinite range attack at all, unless we're taking about Upheaval?
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Strange Quark posted:Man, I can't remember any infinite range attack at all, unless we're taking about Upheaval? We are.
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It does max 18 damage, usually far less. You'll be fiiiine. Just summon some invokes, physic your cleric, and then heal up next turn. All the sages are capable of healing too so it was never a huge issue really.
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Lord Koth posted:What fuckery is going on there that the attack did x5 (or more) damage? Listed damage is only 18, and I was under the assumption Triangle Attack only made it an auto crit. Boss bar goes from ?? to 80 for reference. Catria's Speed is superfluous, looking at enemies' Speed, after getting to Falcon Knight both of them will basically double/can't double the same enemies in Act 4 and 5 so Palla doesn't really have a speed issue. Like, Catria is never doubling Gargoyles and Mogalls and there are no 15-16 Spd enemies that Catria can double where Palla can't. Catria has higher Skl and Lck base, but Palla has a slightly higher Atk base and way higher Atk growth, and Skl and Lck don't matter as much. I also used to think Catria is better too cos you know, her numbers look higher but after reading some analysis and stuff I'm convinced Palla's better.
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Jun 2, 2017 02:48
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conrad's support with celica is good (as good as supports in this game get anyway)
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Extra Tasty posted:conrad's support with celica is good (as good as supports in this game get anyway) I like that character a lot because the voice actor actually tries to make him sound different with and without the mask. Like outside of the mask he's...a decent guy 
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Extra Tasty posted:conrad's support with celica is good (as good as supports in this game get anyway) I have generally liked the supports in the game.
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Jun 2, 2017 03:27
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i think the supports are generally decent, if a little brief. it's interesting how much character's having a distinct voice that differentiates them makes a difference. very refreshing after fates.
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Jun 2, 2017 03:33
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Lord Koth posted:along with being 3 levels lower This can be argued as being in Palla's favor, as she is 3 levels closer to promotion.
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Jun 2, 2017 04:06
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Jesse's biggest weakness is how far away he is from promotion.
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I find Jesse surprisingly likable so I want to use him but he was a struggle to train in my first run and I had to drop him on my second. His 11 base Atk is the real issue though. At least Atlas has 14 and gains level quickly to raise it even more and he can match Saber and Kamui in terms of power. But Jesse is stuck with average Atk until he promotes, if ever.
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Jun 2, 2017 04:17
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love to be moving on the map, get thrown into a random encounter that immediately opens with a unit spawning in range of the enemies and getting killed before i can do anything
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Jun 2, 2017 05:28
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blizzardvizard posted:Catria's Speed is superfluous, looking at enemies' Speed, after getting to Falcon Knight both of them will basically double/can't double the same enemies in Act 4 and 5 so Palla doesn't really have a speed issue. Like, Catria is never doubling Gargoyles and Mogalls and there are no 15-16 Spd enemies that Catria can double where Palla can't. Catria has higher Skl and Lck base, but Palla has a slightly higher Atk base and way higher Atk growth, and Skl and Lck don't matter as much. Gargoyles in Act 4 Hard have SPD 15, so what are you talking about? Catria will hit SPD 18 within 10 levels, or 12/3 if you're promoting her immediately, going by averages, while Palla will be languishing at 14 (~1 irrelevant point before Falcon Knight, which sets her SPD to 12, and then 2 afterwards). Moreover, that additional SPD makes it much easier for her to use various lances without dropping below certain enemy thresholds, and the additional attack from even lightly forged Steels, let alone Silvers, more than make up the ATK difference - not even accounting for doubling. Catria will also hit SPD 21 in ~5 levels more, so 12/8, putting her at par with Mogalls (though not using any Wt weapon unless/until she picks up at least another point). Terper posted:This can be argued as being in Palla's favor, as she is 3 levels closer to promotion. The only thing Falcon Knight really gives statistically to any of the Whitewings is HP (and a very little DEF in Est and Catria's case, or a very little SPD in Palla's), and the class skill isn't really needed in Act 3. Even without really grinding you should have no issue getting all of them up to 12+ before the end of the act. And one of the few things Palla has over both her sisters, HP, is basically made irrelevant by the giant boost the promotion gives to that stat.
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Jun 2, 2017 06:05
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Jun 2, 2017 06:07
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She has 40% growth in ATK, so pretty good really.
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This guy does a better job explaining the whole Palla and Catria thing than I do; after playing with both sisters in my second run I generally agree with what he's saying so that's why I advocate it. I mean if you think Catria's better that's fine too, it's not like they're both aren't great units
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Jun 2, 2017 06:30
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Is there any finicky mechanics where you shouldn't grab something in Alm's route so you can grab them in Cecila or vice versa?
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Jun 2, 2017 06:36
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No. You can pick up the Ridersbane as Celica instead of Alm but that would be very very stupid.
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Jun 2, 2017 06:56
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Tae posted:You have knights and Clive for those. wait you're supposed to use clive?!
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Jun 2, 2017 07:05
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I'm gonna give all the stat boosts to Clive in this run.
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Jun 2, 2017 07:12
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Does the advice to promote ASAP also apply to class changing your villagers? Also what's the idea with the pitchfork, any reason I would want to make someone else a villager?
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Jun 2, 2017 08:47
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Avalerion posted:Does the advice to promote ASAP also apply to class changing your villagers? yes to promote them into a different class chain
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Ruggington posted:wait you're supposed to use clive?! I used Clive. He kept getting defence so his main purpose was baiting enemies for his Girlfriend to kill.
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Jun 2, 2017 09:51
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Why would not use any character, most of the game they're all deployed.
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Jun 2, 2017 09:54
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Tae posted:Why would not use any character, most of the game they're all deployed. The only time I didn't was on some of Celica's hellmaps in the swamps where everyone turned into a blob that couldn't move if they were all deployed. Also loving hell Celica, you should gain more than 4 move at some point.
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Jun 2, 2017 09:56
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I'm not deploying Valbar whenever Witches are around
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Zore posted:The only time I didn't was on some of Celica's hellmaps in the swamps where everyone turned into a blob that couldn't move if they were all deployed. I gave her the boots.
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Jun 2, 2017 10:10
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Tae posted:Why would not use any character, most of the game they're all deployed. just because im served a turd doesnt mean i have to eat it
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Jun 2, 2017 10:21
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Ruggington posted:wait you're supposed to use clive?! clive has an important position as support for mathilda
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Oops, I 2RKO'd the boss of Thabes. Hunter's Volley got three crits in a row, and well. 
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