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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!



Hanging's too good for Phil Collins.

"When will the loony left get rid of the fatal illusion that public investment is better than pointless austerity,"

Isn't the conservative line that they beat the recession? Why are we STILL doing austerity lol this is so blatant.

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Praseodymi
Aug 26, 2010

Pissflaps posted:

I talked to my mum about the election and she ended up carrying me around the house on her shoulders.

You must have very high ceilings.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Praseodymi posted:

You must have very high ceilings.

Or my mum might be a little person.


Edit: or me

Or both of us?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Praseodymi posted:

All species are vital to the ecosystem you numpty.
And yet few people mourn the upcoming extinction of the guinea worm.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Praseodymi posted:

Topically, I talked to my mum for the first time in a while and she hates May and the local Tory enough to consider voting Labour, but the chance that the party might just implode and not get anything done is putting her off.

So, thanks, Blairite scum.

You could always point out that if Corbyn wins the credibility of his internal critics is zero since their main complaint has been that he's unelectable. Therefore he'd likely have a much more solid position than before.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Dead Cosmonaut posted:

the elusive migrating goalposts

It's called a benchmark and it's something real political analysts do, he's a real political analyst, he's not a joke, he's

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

nopantsjack posted:

It is bizzare, its literally the name of the party guys. Go join the #libdemfightback.

I do wonder what will happen when Labour lose badly, I'm guessing the popularity of the manifesto is immediately retconned into nonexistance and we go back to huge amounts of infighting and thirdwayism.

Although haha the only way there would be MORE infighting than that is if Corbyn won. Labour party loves infighting as much as the Tories love naked power grabs.

The PLP, NEC and the membership will be at each other throats again no doubt. Though having said that regardless of the results a bunch of the shittiest elements of the PLP have purged themselves, like Reid, Dugher and Tristram Hunt.

The big question will be whether the overwhelmingly left-wing membership will stick around even in the event of a bad loss, which personally I think it will - people have been saying that this has been one of the biggest and most energetic compaigns in a long time, members didn't turn out in these numbers to compaign for Miliband. Corbyn would have to lose another leadership election or step down as leader, neither of which is particularly likely at this point I think.

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Remember Ipsos Mori are using historical trends to determine youth vote, so do everything in your power to get the loving vote out. That raw polling data is magical.

https://twitter.com/BobbyIpsosMORI/status/870598290659844096

does anyone have an update on that guy who was tweeting Labour's ceiling?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Cerebral Bore posted:

You could always point out that if Corbyn wins the credibility of his internal critics is zero since their main complaint has been that he's unelectable. Therefore he'd likely have a much more solid position than before.

you'd think that wouldn't you but they're shameless

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless
If Corbyn wins big Pissflaps should be forced to call him "Comrade Corbyn”, “Glorious Leader”, or “Tovarisch”.

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Praseodymi posted:

All species are vital to the ecosystem you numpty.

Not really, the niche is more important than the species filling it. It's like with malaria - you could wipe out Anopheles and the other mosquitos would just pick up the slack and the ecosystem would be fine. I'd imagine squirrels are much the same.

Indiscriminately machine-gunning them probably isn't the best way to go about it though.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Dead Cosmonaut posted:

If Corbyn wins big Pissflaps should be forced to call him "Comrade Corbyn”, “Glorious Leader”, or “Tovarisch”.

I'm comfortable agreeing with that.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
if Corbyn has cabinet seats to hand out rather than shad cab seats, I think he'd quickly have all the careerists on board

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Pissflaps posted:

I'm comfortable agreeing with that.

Did you ever name someone in Labour you'd rather see lead?

Praseodymi
Aug 26, 2010

Strom Cuzewon posted:

Not really, the niche is more important than the species filling it. It's like with malaria - you could wipe out Anopheles and the other mosquitos would just pick up the slack and the ecosystem would be fine. I'd imagine squirrels are much the same.

Indiscriminately machine-gunning them probably isn't the best way to go about it though.

Maybe vital is a strong word, but the ecosystem is a collection of organisms. By removing one you are directly altering the ecosystem, and there will be knock on effects of some magnitude.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Jose posted:

you'd think that wouldn't you but they're shameless

Yeah, but if they try to stab Corbs after a GE win it provides a golden opportunity to introduce mandatory reselection :getin:

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

Did you ever name someone in Labour you'd rather see lead?

Bit late for that now. Ask me again when the contest starts.

Brofessor Slayton
Jan 1, 2012

Gonzo McFee posted:

*whispering seductively in your ear*

Ipso Mori polls skew heavily towards the older voters...

Side note, I worked at Ipsos Mori for a while a couple of years back due to Jobcentre shenanigans. I am incredibly happy I don't work there any more (and have an actually good job now).

Of the people who didn't immediately hang up on us (after we dialled their number with Random Dialing Techniques™ that were Not Technically Illegal™) we got:

1) Students who were high as balls and usually answered our surveys with thudding techno music in the background. Leaned left politically, but usually hung up at random before the end.

2) Shrill screeching women who told us how we deserved to die. Always women, always really high pitched, always unlisted numbers that the autodialer had decided to call. And always furiously angry at us for calling them, which I can't blame them for.

3) Really lonely old people who would try to tell us their entire life stories because nobody in their family spoke to them any more. Usually started very polite until it gradually became obvious the reason nobody spoke to them was that they were the Racist Grandma of the family.


Most surveys had age quotas to screen out older people once they had enough responses from them. But it was tricky getting anyone under 60 to actually stay on the phone. So pretty much every survey I got finished was from elderly lifelong Tories.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
If Corbyn actually wins this or even gets a hung parliament I'm sure Pissflaps will absolutely adore Jeremy Corbyn for the full two weeks he's PM before the PLP start trying to kick Corbyn out again.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
Polls always contract just before elections. Corbyn has played his hand incredibly well (particularly compared to May who keeps confusing which side of the card she's supposed to be looking at) but lets keep our expectations realistic? She ties her majority and she's gone, so there's that.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Dead Cosmonaut posted:

If Corbyn wins big Pissflaps should be forced to call him "Comrade Corbyn”, “Glorious Leader”, or “Tovarisch”.

I think you'll find if Corbyn wins we'll all be forced to call him that, and report any criticisms of his great socialist reforms to our local chapter of the reformed IRA

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC

Angepain posted:

I think you'll find if Corbyn wins we'll all be forced to call him that, and report any criticisms of his great socialist reforms to our local chapter of the reformed IRA



Can't wait tbh, can't be any worse than the crushing banality of the Jobcentre.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

ronya posted:

if Corbyn has cabinet seats to hand out rather than shad cab seats, I think he'd quickly have all the careerists on board

They have to give Corbyn a hug first, that's why Tim Farron doesn't want to go into coalition in case he contracts The Gays by touching another man

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.
in particular, regardless of whether Corbyn wins or loses, he's still 68yo

even if you're the spaddiest Blairite to have ever spadded, you'd still want to slot yourself in the head of the queue for when Corbyn is obliged to step aside by Father Time anyway

hand-fed baby bird
May 13, 2009
He's a vegan who keeps active. I'd say he's got at least another forty years.

El Perkele
Nov 7, 2002

I HAVE SHIT OPINIONS ON STAR WARS MOVIES!!!

I can't even call the right one bad.

blowfish posted:

I'm not going to do the full :effortless:post because I'm packing to leave this rainy and/or overly sunny and hot island for two weeks, but essentially

1) I basically agree with you. So do conservationists who care mainly about ecosystems. Conservationists (or, as I would say, """conservationists""") who care mainly about the inherent moral value of each species or life (but in practice operate on an implied corollary of "except the ugly and/or tiny ones") don't.

Species-focused protection and conservation schemes are usually used to supplement and support ecosystem and habitat protection schemes. They are not disconnected, but form a complex web. More often than both habitat and species level work is done by the same people.

edit: This is becoming a derail and the thread moves on to new things.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

MikeCrotch posted:

They have to give Corbyn a hug first, that's why Tim Farron doesn't want to go into coalition in case he contracts The Gays by touching another man

Pfft look at this fool who doesn't know that the way they turn you gay is with chemicals in the water strong enough to turn even the horniest toad into a gay frog.

Why do you think he loves his milk?

Laradus
Feb 16, 2011

El Perkele posted:

Species-focused protection and conservation schemes are usually used to supplement and support ecosystem and habitat protection schemes. They are not disconnected, but form a complex web. More often than both habitat and species level work is done by the same people.

edit: This is becoming a derail and the thread moves on to new things.

It is but we don't often get to talk about the environment (because other issues usually get a much higher priority), so thank you anyway - you were more eloquent than I would be. :)

GaussianCopula
Jun 5, 2011
Jews fleeing the Holocaust are not in any way comparable to North Africans, who don't flee genocide but want to enjoy the social welfare systems of Northern Europe.
What exactly would constitute a Corbyn win?

It seems that no poll actually gives Labor a shot at having more seats than the Conservatives, so he would have to form a coalition of 2-4 parties?

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC

GaussianCopula posted:

What exactly would constitute a Corbyn win?

It seems that no poll actually gives Labor a shot at having more seats than the Conservatives, so he would have to form a coalition of 2-4 parties?

gently caress off Nazi.

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

hand-fed baby bird posted:

He's a vegan who keeps active. I'd say he's got at least another forty years.

Also non-drinker, non-smoker and has allegedly never touched a drug. Guys probably sticking around for a while

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

GaussianCopula posted:

What exactly would constitute a Corbyn win?

It seems that no poll actually gives Labor a shot at having more seats than the Conservatives, so he would have to form a coalition of 2-4 parties?

Coalition with the SNP and SF.

You Nazi gently caress

Not Operator
Jan 1, 2009

Not A doctor, THE Doctor!

SteelMentor posted:



Can't wait tbh, can't be any worse than the crushing banality of the Jobcentre.

I can't wait to have sex.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Not Operator posted:

I can't wait to have sex.

Inspired by the most logical race in the galaxy, the Vulcans, breeding will be permitted once every seven years. For many of you, this will mean much less breeding. For me, much much more.

Dead Cosmonaut
Nov 14, 2015

by FactsAreUseless

GaussianCopula posted:

What exactly would constitute a Corbyn win?

When the monarchy and bourgeoisie are overthrown by the proletariat

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

Dead Cosmonaut posted:

the elusive migrating goalposts

Migrating pollposts surely?

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

hand-fed baby bird posted:

He's a vegan who keeps active. I'd say he's got at least another forty years.

What, a vegan?

edit: No just a vegetarian, phew.

His Divine Shadow fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Jun 2, 2017

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Gonzo McFee posted:

Coalition with the SNP and SF.

You Nazi gently caress
SF will never coalition with a British party.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

GaussianCopula posted:

What exactly would constitute a Corbyn win?

It seems that no poll actually gives Labor a shot at having more seats than the Conservatives, so he would have to form a coalition of 2-4 parties?

A 'Corbyn win' would be him going to the queen asking to form a government.

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Kurtofan posted:

why did may call the election lol

She was walking in a field in Wales one weekend and saw a sheep poo poo all over itself and said to her aide "hold my beer"

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