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tanglewood1420 posted:If Curry and Durant both get the max this season then there is no reasonable way they can keep both Livingston and Iggy and they could only possibly keep one of them if they took a way below market contract. Then you are gambling with a roster of the big four, plus McCaw and Looney, plus a taxpayer MLE guy ($5m), plus minsal vets - until summer 2019 when Klay hits FA and there is no way they could max him at that point so he'll probably leave (or they could trade him before then I guess). So while this Warriors team is probably one the three or four greatest teams ever, the next two seasons their depth is going to be appreciably worse and it can't conceivably last longer than that. Durant taking 32 million rather than 35 million makes literally no appreciable difference. Unless he literally is going to play for like 40% below market value, then it does not really matter in the long run. They are going to be in the luxury tax next year with 8ish actual NBA players on their roster, and it only goes up from there.
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Paul Zuvella posted:Durant taking 32 million rather than 35 million makes literally no appreciable difference. Unless he literally is going to play for like 40% below market value, then it does not really matter in the long run. They are going to be in the luxury tax next year with 8ish actual NBA players on their roster, and it only goes up from there. This is not true. If he takes a $5 mil paycut, they don't have to renounce Iggy and Livingston, and both those guys have Bird Rights with the team. He'll likely do that for a 1 year contract, then sign his max in 2018 when he has bird rights with the Warriors. Warriors will be in the tax, but that was going to happen regardless.
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Lockback posted:They get to play with Cap holds. Since Curry's cap hold is low, they get a "free" 20 million they can play with by not giving him his contract until the end. If Durant takes 5 or so million off his 1 year contract, they will be able to not renounce bird rights on Iggy and Livingston, and resign them to whatever. They'll be into the tax, but they won't be in repeater territory. Wait what? This article really doesn't explain much. They are still over the cap with all the cap holds (assuming they renounce everyone but Iggy and Livingston). The only way they get cap room IS by renouncing those guys. What am I missing? 
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Paul Zuvella posted:Durant taking 32 million rather than 35 million makes literally no appreciable difference. Unless he literally is going to play for like 40% below market value, then it does not really matter in the long run. They are going to be in the luxury tax next year with 8ish actual NBA players on their roster, and it only goes up from there. Gotta take your scoodenfroody where you find it friendo because otherwise
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euphronius posted:They can sign for less than their cap hold ?? Ah yeah, I wasn't really thinking about that. I think Livingston leaves because he could get paid and definitely should look for money at this point in his career. Who knows about Andre though.
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Where are people getting these 2017 cap figures from. Woj reported like 2 months ago that the cap was expected to be 101-102 million. I suppose andre could take a huge paycut and sign at like 8 million or something. Paul Zuvella fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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Paul Zuvella posted:Where are people getting these 2017 cap figures from. Woj reported like 2 months ago that the cap was expected to be 101-102 million. I just used the wrong number in my spreadsheet. Woops
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EvanTH posted:What I miss The NBA is getting cancelled
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Paul Zuvella posted:The NBA is getting cancelled Long time coming but in the end it's the proper decision
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The NBA is moving to a tennis style series of international tournaments on different surfaces. Can't wait for clay season personally.
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leftist heap posted:The NBA is moving to a tennis style series of international tournaments on different surfaces. Can't wait for clay season personally. We found out last night that the performance of Klay is irrelevant.
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poo poo, when the 73 win warriors replaced Harry "Broad Side" Barnes with Kevin Durant, I never thought they'd be this good.
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TildeATH posted:We found out last night that the performance of Klay is irrelevant. Yeah but you can't be too cavalier about the possibility of it suddenly becoming relevant.
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Cool Buff Man posted:poo poo, when the 73 win warriors replaced Harry "Broad Side" Barnes with Kevin Durant, I never thought they'd be this good. lol
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BWV posted:As much as I want the Cavs to win—and I do want them to win so badly—I also hope the Warriors sweep so history knows how colossal of a bitch Durant is.
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Paul Zuvella posted:Durant taking 32 million rather than 35 million makes literally no appreciable difference. Unless he literally is going to play for like 40% below market value, then it does not really matter in the long run. They are going to be in the luxury tax next year with 8ish actual NBA players on their roster, and it only goes up from there. If Durant resigns for his current salary or less ($31.8m) then they don't need to renounce Iguodala or Livingston. Then it doesn't matter what the cap is. Of course it will put them well into the tax. e: beaten, should read the thread first before replying.
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Fast Luck posted:Honestly, Kevin Durant's legacy will be worse having won 12 championships with the Warriors than it would be if he never made the finals in Oklahoma City. On the other hand, 12 rings is 12 rings.
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Fast Luck posted:Honestly, Kevin Durant's legacy will be worse having won 12 championships with the Warriors than it would be if he never made the finals in Oklahoma City. Only problem is that he did make the Finals in OKC.
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Kibner posted:Only problem is that he did make the Finals in OKC. That roster was light years better than anything Durant would be able to play with during his productive window if he stayed in OKC
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We all know how this story ends. KD gets two rings with GSW and everyone hates him. He goes back to OKC in a few years and suddenly everyone is on his jock as he takes them to a title.
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Just FYI to any NBA execs reading this I am available for a front office job and as you can tell by my post history on cap space issues I'm very, very good at it
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Ammanas posted:That roster was light years better than anything Durant would be able to play with during his productive window if he stayed in OKC Their 5th best player by Win Shares was Kendrick Perkins. At 2.
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leftist heap posted:Just FYI to any NBA execs reading this I am available for a front office job and as you can tell by my post history on cap space issues I'm very, very good at it How do you feel about living in Brooklyn?
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TBeats posted:We all know how this story ends. KD gets two rings with GSW and everyone hates him. He goes back to OKC in a few years and suddenly everyone is on his jock as he takes them to a title. I still wonder if he thinks he'll get a KG-esque home coming if he returns to OKC even though the two situations are completely different.
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Brooklyn actually has a decent GM right now. It's just that he started with a terrible handicap. edit - Nevermind, I just remembered he wanted to max Allen Crabbe and also got played by BJ Armstrong
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WhyteRyce posted:I still wonder if he thinks he'll get a KG-esque home coming if he returns to OKC even though the two situations are completely different. People literally burned jersey's after the Decision. Fandom is the most fragile thing that turns faster than Benedict Arnold at a strategy meeting
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Paul Zuvella posted:How do you feel about living in Brooklyn? Oh I forgot to mention I'm not willing to relocate and since I live in small town Canada I'll need to work remotely. Hope that's not an issue.
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On thing I enjoy about the Warriors winning right now is that they can plug anyone in as a head coach and the team still looks like one of the greatest ever...anyone except for Mark Jackson
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leftist heap posted:Oh I forgot to mention I'm not willing to relocate and since I live in small town Canada I'll need to work remotely. Hope that's not an issue. Are you by any chance Phil Jackson?
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Tae posted:People literally burned jersey's after the Decision. Fandom is the most fragile thing that turns faster than Benedict Arnold at a strategy meeting Strategy Meeting I'm dying
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tanglewood1420 posted:Yes OKC 2015-16 were a really good team, almost as good, perhaps equal, to the Warriors of 2015-16. Talk about revisionist history. OKC was a 55-27 win team. GSW was 73-9. Yes, OKC played their asses off in a playoff series against GSW and almost pulled off a massive upset, but they were not equal teams.
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TBeats posted:We all know how this story ends. KD gets two rings with GSW and everyone hates him. He goes back to OKC in a few years and suddenly everyone is on his jock as he takes them to a title. No way in hell he gets forgiven like that
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Paperback Writer posted:I wonder if front offices are all going over this poo poo today too lmao How much of cbafaq.com's traffic can be traced to NBA front offices? I bet it's a lot. Somewhere out there Phil Jackson is googling "New York Knicks salaries".
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