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Labour | 907 | 49.92% | |
Theresa May Team (Conservative) | 48 | 2.64% | |
Liberal Democrats | 31 | 1.71% | |
UKIP | 13 | 0.72% | |
Plaid Cymru | 25 | 1.38% | |
Green | 22 | 1.21% | |
Scottish Socialist Party | 12 | 0.66% | |
Scottish Conservative Party | 1 | 0.06% | |
Scottish National Party | 59 | 3.25% | |
Some Kind of Irish Unionist | 4 | 0.22% | |
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian | 3 | 0.17% | |
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist | 36 | 1.98% | |
Misc. Far Left Trots | 35 | 1.93% | |
Misc. Far Right Fash | 8 | 0.44% | |
Monster Raving Loony | 49 | 2.70% | |
Space Navies Party | 39 | 2.15% | |
Independent / Single Issue | 2 | 0.11% | |
Can't Vote | 188 | 10.35% | |
Won't Vote | 8 | 0.44% | |
Spoiled Ballot | 15 | 0.83% | |
Pissflaps | 312 | 17.17% | |
Total: | 1817 votes |
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The freedom of people to call the people I support "retards" and advocate for them to receive less then minimum wage or be put in institutions?
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:05 |
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# ? May 14, 2024 16:31 |
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Mr. Flunchy posted:What about genuinely insightful and neat looking projects like this? proclick
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:07 |
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I've said this before, but if the far right you support with bollocks like bleating about "cultural Marxism" and "the regressive left" win, they will come after you. The autistic are no safer from the fash than the browns or Jews. You are advocating an ideology that ultimately hates you.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:07 |
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crispix posted:I hope he stops being quite so nice and asks why she won't be in the same room as him. https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/870621700152582145
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:08 |
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Namtab posted:I've said this before, but if the far right you support with bollocks like bleating about "cultural Marxism" and "the regressive left" win, they will come after you. The autistic are no safer from the fash than the browns or Jews. You are advocating an ideology that ultimately hates you. Both sides are wrong as they both seek to curtail my freedom I'd never support the far right but that doesn't mean I don't think the far left are going to protect in the long run either
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:10 |
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:Both sides are wrong as they both seek to curtail my freedom the thing is you can't actually say this and not get called on it because you transparently don't have a clue
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:11 |
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:Both sides are wrong as they both seek to curtail my freedom Your freedom to scream the n-word and poo poo on Autistic people (despite allegedly being Autistic yourself, that's some good internalised hatred right there). Please gently caress off.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:11 |
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TACD posted:And despite what you might expect from how Question Time has always been, May and Corbyn will be going on separately so that Theresa doesn't wee herself in fear. Ahaha I was literally going to make a joke about her not showing up but I figured it would be too on-the-nose
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:11 |
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jabby posted:I've heard this argument a few times, but no-one has ever adequately explained what kind of 'who-knows-what' someone could do with a photograph of you. A picture taken in public rather than one taken privately, obviously. The specific example I was thinking of is that I know someone who has a court order that prohibits anyone from taking photographs or video of them without their consent. This is to protect them from being found by a murderously abusive partner. Lots of people have abusive exes who could and would use a photo of them in a particular place at a particular time as a starting point for tracking them down.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:12 |
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Guys Guys The truth is in the middl-ahahahaha
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:12 |
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In the spirit of glorious freedom how about we phrase it this way. You stop being a oval office to people, you enjoy the benefits of not being cunted at. Don't want to do the former, you don't get the latter. Call it a trade.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:13 |
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Mr. Flunchy posted:What about genuinely insightful and neat looking projects like this? This reminds me of another personal incident. I used to know a woman who's an artist, and years ago she was working in a care home for the elderly while studying at university. While there one day she saw one of the residents who had just learned that her husband had died. This girl's first instinct was to take a photo, which I've seen. It shows a little old lady weeping, with her face mostly covered by her hands. The artist didn't ask permission before taking the shot. Today this woman is a very successful artist who lectures at major universities and has had pretty big exhibitions in the UK, China, Germany, the USA, and elsewhere. The photo she took is a powerful and moving one. But I can't help feeling that that the act of taking it was a callous and intrusive breach of privacy for no meaningful purpose. The photo didn't become famous, and for all I know only a handful of people ever saw it. I'm not sure it ought to have been taken at all. Would it have been better if it had become famous? Is art a self-justifying thing? What defines it?
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:13 |
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I think we can all agree that nobody cares what goons or the bleating idiots on 4chan think, the difference is 4chan has delusions of grandeur, much like IFM has delusions that we would ever care about any of the poo poo he keeps linking here.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:13 |
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Namtab posted:I've said this before, but if the far right you support with bollocks like bleating about "cultural Marxism" and "the regressive left" win, they will come after you. The autistic are no safer from the fash than the browns or Jews. You are advocating an ideology that ultimately hates you. The far right ultimately hate everyone imo: its just a matter of degrees. The kind of people they idealise don't actually exist in reality (and never have/will), and its just a matter of time before they turn on you, as no-one can ever meet the standard they set.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:14 |
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SteelMentor posted:Your freedom to scream the n-word and poo poo on Autistic people (despite allegedly being Autistic yourself, that's some good internalised hatred right there). Just because I have the freedom to do such an action doesn't mean I should morally make that choice nor would I want to.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:14 |
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:Both sides are wrong as they both seek to curtail my freedom People saying that you shouldn't use words that disrespect people for accidents of birth are not the same as people who want to hurt people for being different. There is no regressive left in the UK, and claiming that there is actively helps the far right. Social justice is about respect. Your right to free speech is curtailed only by there being consequences for that speech, and I'd argue that legal consequences are probably more benign than one of ober's lot giving you a kicking, but both are a consequence.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:16 |
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:Just because I have the freedom to do such an action doesn't mean I should morally make that choice nor would I want to. So you're a fierce defender of the abstract concept of a right? What do you think should happen to those that exercise that right?
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:17 |
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There is no freedom without responsibility. Even anarchist principles involves consequences for your actions
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:19 |
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TACD posted:Way ahead of you. It's been amazing. From the day the election was called he's just looked like he's having the time of his life.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:20 |
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Intrinsic Field Marshal posted:Just because I have the freedom to do such an action doesn't mean I should morally make that choice nor would I want to. What moral justification does that supposed freedom have for existing though, if it can only be used by immoral people for immoral purposes?
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:21 |
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Namtab posted:I've said this before, but if the far right you support with bollocks like bleating about "cultural Marxism" and "the regressive left" win, they will come after you. The autistic are no safer from the fash than the browns or Jews. You are advocating an ideology that ultimately hates you. Don't forget our old friends sterilisation and castration. It always amazes me that the kind of people who support the far right on the internet simply do not comprehend that they would either be seen as cannon fodder, or the very first under the knife if the real fash ever came into power.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:21 |
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Namtab posted:There is no freedom without responsibility. Even anarchist principles involves consequences for your actions I think the only schools of thought which don't think this are objectivism and other extreme egoism and nihilism. Basically if you believe in anything other than yourself.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:21 |
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Oberleutnant posted:I used to know a woman who's an artist, and years ago she was working in a care home for the elderly while studying at university. While there one day she saw one of the residents who had just learned that her husband had died. This girl's first instinct was to take a photo, which I've seen. It shows a little old lady weeping, with her face mostly covered by her hands. The artist didn't ask permission before taking the shot. If you're working in a care home I think part of the duty of care to those patients/clients/whatever should probably include not taking photographs of them, yeah.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:21 |
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learnincurve posted:Don't forget our old friends sterilisation and castration. It's not like tory voters comprehend that it happens to them on a smaller scale.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:24 |
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forkboy84 posted:TinTower, have a word with your political party, this poo poo is embarrassing There's a kernel of truth to this story I think, albeit I don't know whether the effects were ever observed in humans or just fish. Apologies for the Mail source but they are quoting the Environment Agency's scientists: quote:But now scientists have found that ethanol oestradiol - a chemical used in the Pill which is between 50 to 100 times more powerful than natural oestrogens - is responsible for feminising fish. I remember reading something about this at uni, but don't know whether any link between fertility and the chemical has been proven since the article. Prince John fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Jun 2, 2017 |
# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:24 |
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NotJustANumber99 posted:If you're working in a care home I think part of the duty of care to those patients/clients/whatever should probably include not taking photographs of them, yeah. If I were the nurse in charge she would have been suspended on the spot.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:24 |
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Mr. Flunchy posted:What about genuinely insightful and neat looking projects like this? I was speaking in the context of an amateur street photographer, which is why I put that rider on the end. If you're HCB or Eddie Adams, sure, stand on your rights and let others decide later whether you were justified.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:25 |
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NotJustANumber99 posted:If you're working in a care home I think part of the duty of care to those patients/clients/whatever should probably include not taking photographs of them, yeah. In either case you're right, but she probably never signed a bit of paper about protection of personal information, duty of care, etc, and it's interesting (to me) that when we talked about it once she didn't in any sense seem to feel that she had done anything immoral, or in any way breached anybody's privacy - because it was art.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:25 |
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Prince John posted:There's a kernel of truth to this story I think, albeit I don't know whether the effects were ever observed in humans or just fish. Apologies for the Mail source but they are quoting the Environment Agency's scientists: I thought that hormones in the water supply were also responsible for a drift in the onset of puberty in kids too, cos the sewage works don't fully remove them.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:26 |
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:26 |
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Trin Tragula posted:The specific example I was thinking of is that I know someone who has a court order that prohibits anyone from taking photographs or video of them without their consent. This is to protect them from being found by a murderously abusive partner. Lots of people have abusive exes who could and would use a photo of them in a particular place at a particular time as a starting point for tracking them down. I guess I can understand this, although to me it still seems like trying to legislate against someone recognising you in a public place. Having someone take a picture of you that then goes on to become famous has got to be a lower risk than, for example, wandering into the background of a live news broadcast. Oberleutnant posted:This reminds me of another personal incident. Yeah, I don't think that's ethical purely because the care home was where the woman lived. You definitely do have an expectation of privacy at home, and that includes from people who may be visiting or visiting people you live with.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:30 |
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Tories U-turn on plan to build more socially rented council housing posted:Plan to build genuinely affordable homes ditched by housing minister
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:30 |
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learnincurve posted:Don't forget our old friends sterilisation and castration. I'm not about to start endorsing the far right going around sterilizing 'race mixers' or whatever, but the current attitude of being completely squeamish about people requesting sterilization because 'it can't be undone' is completely idiotic. You can't undo having a child either (at least not without doing something seriously terrible).
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:32 |
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Alright what are they covering up this time? The dark advertising thing?
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:32 |
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May talking nonsense here.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:35 |
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how did you get hold of Jeremy's opening speech for tonight
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:35 |
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learnincurve posted:May talking nonsense here. At least she's talking to the press I guess. The very slim hope of the Tories not having a majority rest on her continuing to be a terrible campaigner, which she can't do if she goes radio silent. Prince John posted:There's a kernel of truth to this story I think, albeit I don't know whether the effects were ever observed in humans or just fish. Apologies for the Mail source but they are quoting the Environment Agency's scientists: scientists do not yet know whether this is affecting people seems like the key words here. Not letting the LibDems off that easy.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:37 |
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I just made jam, in solidarity with Our Jezz. It's strawberry and raspberry with a dash of knockoff Grand Marnier. It is v red.
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:38 |
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feedmegin posted:I just made jam, in solidarity with Our Jezz. It's strawberry and raspberry with a dash of knockoff Grand Marnier. I hope you've made enough for everybody according to their needs, comrade
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:41 |
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# ? May 14, 2024 16:31 |
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if no deal is better than a bad deal why are we still selling weapons to saudi arabia
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# ? Jun 2, 2017 20:41 |