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Revolver Bunker posted:I haven't played this game since mid last year. Overwatch yanked me from the game hard. Do I need to rebuy the game since its on steam now? I read somewhere that my characters don't transfer over to the new servers, is that true? If you already have an account you can just keep using it. Steam is just another way to have the game. If you want an account tied to steam, you would need buy a new account through steam. Everyone accesses the same servers with the exception of the steam specific olvia (beginner/returning player double xp) channels currently available
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If you're new to the game like me, is buying it on Steam the best option? I don't really care about Steam as a platform, but since everyone's excited that it's on Steam I guess it's worth asking. Also: is Wizard as fun as it looks? I was kind of bummed that Sorceress is female-only because I like fast, mobile mages, but the Wizard also looks surprisingly mobile, versatile, and fast-paced, but also with a lot of big explosions, and I do like big explosions. And pointy hats.
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I've only played one character, a wizard, and I'm having a blast. Fireballs are a good fast ranged AOE, the magic arrows shoot fast enough that it's a non-stop stream of death.
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Witch/wizards aren't terribly mobile as far as classes go. They get a teleport spell but it's not much compared to the dashes some other classes get. Witch/wiz is more about teleporting into/near a group and nuking them, you're unlikely to need to do input more than about 1 action per second because most of the good skill have a decent windup. Since you don't have to have a super high input rate, it makes it easier to grind for longer periods of time. Just try out the classes or watch vids on them. Every class's, except for striker since it is new, skillset changes at 56, so that's the more important part. As far as buying it on steam, buy it wherever you want. I think the price on the website is the same as on steam, so if you want it on steam get it on steam. There are currently beginner channels that are exclusive to steam users, so maybe that might interest you but all the beginner channels are probably super crowded. I don't know if there are any other promotions via steam right now. EDIT: the prices on the website are back up to normal. If steam still has the discounted packages ($28 explorers bundle), buy it there gwrtheyrn fucked around with this message at 18:56 on May 31, 2017 |
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Me and my two best friends jumped into this over the weekend, because we saw it on steam for 6 bucks and recognized it as "that gorgeous game I stopped hearing things about a few years ago". So I made the grumpiest wizardman and have been zapping imps to death. What the gently caress is this game? The combat is cool and I like it, but everything else is just way more in-depth than I was prepared for. There's property investment and like twelve different profession skills, and the game tracks humidity and groundwater and.... I need like sixteen tutorials the game doesn't want to give me, but overall I'm very intrigued.
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Rainuwastaken posted:What the gently caress is this game? my best mmo experience in a long while was the first month of BDO when it just came out, joining a guild and trying to find an answer to this question together
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Rainuwastaken posted:Me and my two best friends jumped into this over the weekend, because we saw it on steam for 6 bucks and recognized it as "that gorgeous game I stopped hearing things about a few years ago". So I made the grumpiest wizardman and have been zapping imps to death. That's exactly how I felt last year when I bought this game for $30. Its beautiful and has so much depth to it. Almost TOO much. I started speccing to go into cooking and its like actual cooking in that I need a full kitchen, ingredients, seasoning, a spoon. I found myself running off into the mountains to go get meat and milk and then hunting down herbs in fields. It was fun but if you get yourself too deep into it the grind can burn you out quick.
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Gilg posted:Along those lines, if I wanted to focus mostly on PvE for the near future, does house buying / fishing / life skilling / etc.. help significantly with that part of the game more than others? Life skilling helps PvE and PvP in that it is one of the best forms of income that requires relatively minimal active time. PvE benefits from better gear, and better gear is acquirable with more money/resources. Gathering is also the main source of end-game upgrade materials. You could go grind for something like 8m/hr (you won't be able to without already being somewhat geared) and get your money that way, but it's also fairly simple to set up mostly afk life skills that rake more than 8mil every day as long as you're willing to leave your game running in the background.
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https://www.invenglobal.com/articles/2042/bdo-kr-patch-notes-june-1st-striker-buffs-and-new-events-to-gain-additional-exp Currently patched into KR. Guild welfare.. small guilds, with 10 people online @ 00:00AM every monday will get 1 billion silver. 
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Thinking of trying this out today. Are any classes particularly great/poo poo compared to others at being able to level and do things solo at a decent pace? Also is anything in the explorer's bundle a must have for QoL starting out or is it all still playable at just the $10 entry point.
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Zerilan posted:Thinking of trying this out today. Are any classes particularly great/poo poo compared to others at being able to level and do things solo at a decent pace? I just got the game last week and I love it. All the classes I've played, Ninja, Musa, Striker, and Wizard have all been super fun and murders everything. Especially Striker. Everything I've done up to level 26 has been solo and it's drat fast. If you can get the Travelers Pack, it's a deal. You get 30 days of VIP and a free horse, inventory space, a character slot and other goodies. I highly recommend it.
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Zerilan posted:Thinking of trying this out today. Are any classes particularly great/poo poo compared to others at being able to level and do things solo at a decent pace? All classes breeze through all content until level 50 with quest rewards. After 50 some classes do need a bit more gear than others but by this time you can easily afford the bare minimums gear. Leveling to 53 is really fast, then it slows noticeably down every level until 56 when it starts to actually get fairly slow. At 56 is also when you "awaken" and your class changes radically. This is also when the differences in PVE ability starts becoming noticeable. Since the grind is so real and even a tiny % boost to your experience gain will mean hours and hours of less grinding to get to the next level the classes with a good array of AOE skills are the ones that level fast. Wizard/witch are in a tier of their own, then most other classes follow suit. At the very bottom you have Maehwa and Valkyrie who have very little AOE skills after awakened and are generally considered the worst for PVE. Just play a bunch of characters to 50, watch gameplay videos, learn the game (it is surprisingly deep and complicated) and make a decision on 1 or 2 main characters to take further once you know more about the game. There are a ton of account wide unlocks you want, such as knowledge (which gives energy) and contribution points, so leveling multiple characters is not a waste. In fact some prefer this over say crafting things over and over and over to level contribution points.
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Since it's not on sale anymore, the $50 package isn't a braindead best purchase (was $28 on sale). The package gives you: 2x Value Packs (30 Days): These are technically ~$15 and nice to have but basically none of us buy these with cash shop purchases 10x Elion's Blessing: Resurrection item. Same as above. These are given out in events a lot. 1x Tier 5 Horse: Nice to have, but tier 5 horses are much more attainable than they were at release. 1x Pet of Choice: If you play for any length of time you will end up getting at least 4 of these. $10 2x Character Slot Expansion Coupons: Nice to have, the game encourages having alts. You can buy them with loyalty slowly, but it competes with weight and inventory expansions. $6 but I've never bought slots with pearls 1x Inventory Slot +16 Expansion Coupon: You will probably want more inventory than what you can get from quests. You can also buy slots slowly with loyalty, but the best deal right now is the 100 slots for ~$50, but you need to be set on characters before you do that. +100 slots is mostly useful for afk fishing. $15 normally, currently $11.50 for this particular item. 1x Horse Flute (Permanent): Nice to have, by no means necessary. $15 if you buy it later 5x Housing Decoration Coupons: lol 1x Silver Embroidered Life Clothes Exchange Coupon: This isn't worth anything All that being said, if you're getting the base game and don't care if it's on steam, a couple of us are willing to buy the game for you if you will get a character to level 30 since it gives us a pet (~$10 value though pet isn't available for purchase) and you get the base game for free. gwrtheyrn fucked around with this message at 08:10 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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I picked up just the base game and played a striker for a bit since I tend to gravitate a lot to punching/fist weapon classes in MMOs. Then noticed how just much poo poo their is, tried to look for some info on striker skills and poo poo to learn more about the class, and realized it's like brand new and no one really knows what they're doing on it yet anyway.
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Zerilan posted:I picked up just the base game and played a striker for a bit since I tend to gravitate a lot to punching/fist weapon classes in MMOs. Then noticed how just much poo poo their is, tried to look for some info on striker skills and poo poo to learn more about the class, and realized it's like brand new and no one really knows what they're doing on it yet anyway. Maybe try berserker if that's your thing. They use an axe pre-awakening and an "iron buster" after, but the important part is they have a lot of grabs
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That 100 slot inventory bundle, which is 6x 16 slots and a 4-slot, can i spread those around on my characters or is it a single consumable with an odd name? (If the latter, will it bind to the character i am logged on to when i buy it?)
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Ineptitude posted:That 100 slot inventory bundle, which is 6x 16 slots and a 4-slot, can i spread those around on my characters or is it a single consumable with an odd name? (If the latter, will it bind to the character i am logged on to when i buy it?) I was wondering this myself. Ended up going "gently caress it" and decided to make another alt for my casual scum self (never played a ranger before) and just gave it the discounted weight upgrades since I understand it to be a potion chugging black hole. Loads of inventory space is really more a fishing thing and I already have a master fisher character I can't be arsed even using anymore.
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gwrtheyrn posted:All that being said, if you're getting the base game and don't care if it's on steam, a couple of us are willing to buy the game for you if you will get a character to level 30 since it gives us a pet (~$10 value though pet isn't available for purchase) and you get the base game for free. This is true and I am one of them. Use the 7 day trial, get level 30, get base game for free. I want a drat polar bear
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So my wizardman is cool and fun but I've been told alts are great to have, so I'm looking at the other classes. How do Warrior and Maehwa stack up, and what are they good at?
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Ineptitude posted:That 100 slot inventory bundle, which is 6x 16 slots and a 4-slot, can i spread those around on my characters or is it a single consumable with an odd name? (If the latter, will it bind to the character i am logged on to when i buy it?) All inventory upgrades are locked to the character you buy them on
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Rainuwastaken posted:So my wizardman is cool and fun but I've been told alts are great to have, so I'm looking at the other classes. How do Warrior and Maehwa stack up, and what are they good at? Try Musa. The most fun I've had grinding so far. Great mobility and great clearing speeds. No reliance on pots.
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gwrtheyrn posted:All inventory upgrades are locked to the character you buy them on Are pets character bound as well?
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Rainuwastaken posted:So my wizardman is cool and fun but I've been told alts are great to have, so I'm looking at the other classes. How do Warrior and Maehwa stack up, and what are they good at? Warrior is surprisingly fun for a sword-n-board class. Lots of counterattacking and quick side/back-stepping. Makes you feel like you're real hot poo poo if you're comboing well. Don't know how they do in PvP or post-Awakening, haven't grinded that far yet. Musa and Maehwa are really fun, too. At first some of their combos and skills feel a bit clunky because they don't flow quite as fast as the ninja classes or the ranger, and their inputs are a bit weird. Lots of forward/backwards directional input for certain skills. However, once you get the hang of making sure you don't go dashing off in a random direction, they're fast as hell and really really good at jumping from group to group to clear zones quickly, at least pre-awakening. Again, haven't grinded to 56 with either yet. Maehwa has the cooler class skills as far as I'm concerned but they're both pretty neat.
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d-liquor posted:Are pets character bound as well? No, pets can be used on any character.
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I haven't followed this since the first (inevitable) goon guild dramaplosion about a month after release. Last US/EU patch I was aware of was when they actually implemented the desert and the thread title changed. Since Dark Knight is now released, does that mean the other continent thing was released too? Are the pirate islands and that one coastal fort still the end-game?
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boho posted:I haven't followed this since the first (inevitable) goon guild dramaplosion about a month after release. Last US/EU patch I was aware of was when they actually implemented the desert and the thread title changed. Pirates are the best solo exp and money in the game. The coastal fort (Sausans) is also really good money but the experience falls off for people who care about going to level 59+. in the desert, there is an area called pila ku jail with level 60 enemies that is quite a bit more difficult that is still a really solid solo spot for those who have the gear for it. Then there are these portals that spawn randomly out in the desert that take you to 1 of 2 dungeons, called aakman or hystria. Aakman is the best exp in the game in a good group. Hystria is the hardest content in game, the enemies in there are level 65 and are mostly ranged. People don't really go in there except for shits and giggles since nobody has the gear or level for it to be ~efficient.~ They also did a big ocean expansion called margoria that added this giant ocean northwest of pirate island. You can build a huge boat now called the epheria boat that takes a gently caress ton of logs and a ton of worker time to build, but is a lot faster and can carry more cargo than a fishing boat. It also has cannons on it to shoot sea monsters or other players with, although there is almost no reason to shoot players with it currently. Sailing across the ocean takes like 45 minutes, (it's freakin huge and empty) although there is an NPC ferry as well you can use if you want to AFK it. Across the ocean is a town called port Ratt, which has a few story quests but the continent behind it is locked out for now. People with really high trading skill can buy some fancy trade goods from port ratt that sell really well on the mainland if you have the means to get them across the ocean. That's the only real reason to go to Ratt at the moment. Sea monsters and hurricanes will attack you, you can't really do it with just a fishing boat. Ocean fishing is really good, the best fishing spots in the game if you have enough inventory spots to hold a good amount of fish. You don't have to sail very far out to get to the ocean fishing areas either.
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I just started this past weekend with the sale, so I'm new 'round these here parts. Is there an official goon guild? Awful lonely killin' goblins by my lonesome.
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So hopefully lewtt sees my PM and adds this onto the OP: Things to consider before playing BDO: The $10 base game (or less if on sale) gives you only access to the game. If you're actually going to play the game and want to enjoy it, you're going to have to dump $100 into it. For new players: Buy the top tier one if you can afford it, the items from it are far better value than individually. Why do you need to spend $100? 1.) Horse whistle (comes with the higher tier pack). This lets you call your horse from further range, it doesn't sound useful until you play with it then without it. 2.) 4 pets (you will need more but you'll find out why later). Pets will autoloot for you and this game is all about genocide. If you stop to loot everything, your grind speed drops. If you don't pick up loot, you're going to be forever poor and unable to upgrade. 3.) Weight/inventory increases. Maxing out your weight and getting decent inventory will cost a pretty penny but the quality of life improvement is so huge. These two upgrades also directly correlate to more efficient life skill gains. 4.) Maids. The more you can afford the better. Maids let you access the closest regional capital bank (Veila, Altinova, Heidel, Calpheon, Valencia) and you can drop off an item (or stack) up to 50 lt every 20 minutes. 5.) Non-combat outfits. Gather faster, cook faster, fish faster, you get the idea. 6.) Horse skill coupons/breeding resets etc. Realistically, to get a fast horse with the holy trinity, you need to use a few horse skill coupons. Ask anyone who has had a slow horse and a fast horse. There's a big difference. VALUE PACKS: DO NOT USE THESE. SAVE THEM UNTIL YOU ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. This point cannot be emphasized enough. If you need inventory space or weight, buy the loving weight or inventory upgrades. Those are permanent. Unless you're rich and don't care about money at all, Value packs serve one purpose: Boost your money from selling on the marketplace. You have 30 items you can store on the MP at any given time. Without the VP, you get 65% of the selling price. With the VP, you get 84.5% of the selling price. Selling an item doesn't impact how much you get, it's whether you have the VP active at time of money collection that determines how much you get. Any higher value items you sell should be left uncollected until you max out your sales queue. Always sell the items with fluctuating prices first. Then after you max those out, pop the VP, collect money and then dump all your value consistent items (Memory Fragments, Black stones, etc.) What guild to join? Parks And Rec is casual and we have some guild buffs. Always join a guild because of the guild buffs. We don't own any land so most guilds can't declare war on us. You can join another guild or join PNR, it doesn't matter. We'll run scrolls usually weekly or sometimes more than once a week depending on how many scrolls we need to burn. Leeching scrolls is a great way for a new player to make money. Hop in discord and we'll usually spam both guild chat and discord for scrolls but if we have too many people that want to go, I'm going to take the guild goons first. PNR discord: https://discord.gg/tXJYW48 edit: Also, I haven't been posting here as much, but you'll see me sperg out plenty on discord or guild chat about how to be efficient with your money or MAKE $5000 A WEEK FROM HOME WITH THIS ONE EASY TRICK. TVDinna fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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Inventory and weight upgrades only apply to one character though, right? So it'd probably be a good idea to level up a couple of classes and find the one you want before going nuts I'd imagine. What's the difference between Musa and Maehwa? They both seem to get pole weapons later on, but I keep hearing that Musa is godlike whereas Maehwa is terrible. Which is unfortunate, because I wanted to play pretty polearm princess dress-up at some point. Is there a general point where I should be stopping and figuring out life skills? My wizard is level 26 and I've got around 60 energy and CP, so it's not like I can't invest in stuff, but I'm wondering if there's a particular city or something I should get to and base my operations out of.
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You get one free lodging in each city, so I would use the videos or guides to find a good moneymaking node near each city and hire a good worker to get started. You can expand from there as CP grows and when/if you decide to manufacture things. And yes, I don't really agree with the $100 thing, but certainly don't start putting money into characters unless you are sure it's the class for you. I am thinking about ditching my sorc for DK and it's a tough decision because my Sorc has some decent money invested in it.
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updated OP with various tidbits and nonsensical picture headers. hopped back in the game a day or so ago since I saw it explode up on the steam charts. Don't know poo poo about hunting so someone write me something I can shove in the op.
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gwrtheyrn posted:2x Value Packs (30 Days): These are technically ~$15 and nice to have but basically none of us buy these with cash shop purchases Are you guys actually able to snipe these off the marketplace? I never see any listed.
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Ineptitude posted:That 100 slot inventory bundle, which is 6x 16 slots and a 4-slot, can i spread those around on my characters or is it a single consumable with an odd name? (If the latter, will it bind to the character i am logged on to when i buy it?) https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/6d9r5b/100_inventory_bundle_can_be_split_between/ https://community.blackdesertonline.com/index.php?threads/inventory-slot-expansion-bundle.4371/#post-45559 You can share them between your characters, which is something I wish they'd be more explicit about on them various pearl store items. I bought them myself, so I'm not talking out of my rear end, and there's a screenshot on the BDO forums as additional proof. They go into your separate Pearl inventory, and can be taken out, banked, and transferred to alts. Not sure if this is a rare exception to a rule or what; I've noticed other pearl items can be banked and transferred too, like combat or life EXP scrolls. It's a pretty solid purchase if you're really into the game and have an alt problem. An extra two rows of inventory slots makes life-skilling or fishing much less of a headache by bumping up your base free inventory from 55 to 71, which is more than enough to comfortably use, especially if you don't want to rely on sniping Value Packs all the time. Great deal if the 20% coupon thing is still going, and it stacks with any existing discounts, but not with other coupons. Note that you have to purchase an item directly to use a coupon (stack of coins icon), rather than putting it in your cart. softcorps fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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softcorps posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/blackdesertonline/comments/6d9r5b/100_inventory_bundle_can_be_split_between/ Wow, I assumed that they were character bound since they don't show up in the pearl inventory across characters like many other items. Guess these expansions aren't wasted after all!
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