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Am I petty enough to blame Macron for trying to one-up Trump by crushing his hand, resulting in the US's withdrawal from the Paris Agreement? Yes, yes I think I am.
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trump was always going to leave anyway it's funnier this way, pissboy met his match!!!
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Jun 2, 2017 15:43
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Kurtofan posted:trump was always going to leave The borderline hero worship of Macron in parts of French media is still pretty ridiculous. Like this: https://twitter.com/LePoint/status/870590706565435392 "Leader of the free world" because he can speak basic English 
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Jun 2, 2017 15:56
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Yeah? That's the only reason you think they said that? Really?
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Jun 2, 2017 16:01
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Kassad posted:The borderline hero worship of Macron in parts of French media is still pretty ridiculous. Like this: But Merkel was it just last month?!
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Jun 2, 2017 16:04
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I found #MOPGA cringe inducing.
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Decius posted:But Merkel was it just last month?! It's the hot potato of international politics
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Mozi posted:Yeah? That's the only reason you think they said that? Really? "It's a center-right paper so of course they're portraying Macron as the second coming of Edit: Bonus "Macron is just like De Gaulle"  https://twitter.com/lobs/status/870615838461767682 Kassad fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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Jun 2, 2017 16:10
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These people have no shame.
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In other news, my minister Gérald Darmanin (a pretty bad person I have the privilege of superficially knowing, having studied at the same school as him, who sued the school in front of an administrative court back in 2006 when it wouldn't call for a police intervention against students who blockaded and occupied the place in protest against a shitass labor law) has shown himself to be a bully. http://www.leparisien.fr/politique/daniel-fasquelle-va-porter-plainte-apres-le-sms-menacant-de-darmanin-02-06-2017-7008417.php
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Jun 2, 2017 16:58
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Kassad posted:The borderline hero worship of Macron in parts of French media is still pretty ridiculous. Like this:
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Jun 2, 2017 17:13
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Toplowtech posted:Well they are getting nervous about the legislative elections with so many people in his current government having legal troubles. Who else aside from Ferrand is in hot water?
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Jun 2, 2017 17:25
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julian assflange posted:Who else aside from Ferrand is in hot water? Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Jun 2, 2017 |
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Jun 2, 2017 17:28
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Toplowtech posted:Marielle de Sarnez. One of the female ministers. A FN member wrote a denunciation letter accusing her of doing the same poo poo Lepen is accused of when she was a EU deputy: employing someone from her party as a fake job. Huh with all the Ferrand stuff I totally missed that
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Jun 2, 2017 17:38
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julian assflange posted:Huh with all the Ferrand stuff I totally missed that
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Jun 2, 2017 17:40
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Nah, the Sarnez thing is a huge nothingburger. She has a part-time aide in the European Parliament, who works in Paris and doubles as a municipal councilor and a regional councilor. There's actually ample proof that the aide actually did a lot of EP-related work and that's entirely legal and not at all a problem. The problem with the FN's aides in the European Parliament was that they didn't actually do any work at the EP, but were registered as aides while they did stuff for the sole benefit of the FN. Only Ferrand is outright slimy.
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Nah, the Sarnez thing is a huge nothingburger. She has a part-time aide in the European Parliament, who works in Paris and doubles as a municipal councilor and a regional councilor. There's actually ample proof that the aide actually did a lot of EP-related work and that's entirely legal and not at all a problem.
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https://twitter.com/francediplo_EN/status/870699642509512704
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If our politicians really had balls, they'd impose an ecotariff on all imports from countries that does not respect the Paris Accord. The money levied on that import tax from rear end in a top hat countries that suck would be used to fund the green fund (to assist developing countries to transition to cleaner energy) that the USA will no longer contribute to.
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Cat Mattress posted:If our politicians really had balls, they'd impose an ecotariff on all imports from countries that does not respect the Paris Accord. The money levied on that import tax from rear end in a top hat countries that suck would be used to fund the green fund (to assist developing countries to transition to cleaner energy) that the USA will no longer contribute to. I don't think the entire first world going into a trade war with the US is going to pan out like you think it will.
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Cat Mattress posted:If our politicians really had balls, they'd impose an ecotariff on all imports from countries that does not respect the Paris Accord. The money levied on that import tax from rear end in a top hat countries that suck would be used to fund the green fund (to assist developing countries to transition to cleaner energy) that the USA will no longer contribute to. The earliest the US withdrawing from the Paris treaty will go into effect is 1 day before the next presidential election in the US.
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Jun 2, 2017 20:33
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GaussianCopula posted:The earliest the US withdrawing from the Paris treaty will go into effect is 1 day before the next presidential election in the US. Yeah but they're already scrapping all the policies that would have allowed them to meet the target, and they've reneged on green fund payments. The damage is already underway, even if they're nominally still *in* the treaty. If it were some leasser power (ie India or Brasil) you could probably sanction then into compliance, but with the US it would prove difficult. Maybe a consumer boycott could gain some traction tough?
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Jun 3, 2017 00:31
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Freezer posted:If it were some leasser power (ie India or Brasil) you could probably sanction then into compliance, but with the US it would prove difficult. Maybe a consumer boycott could gain some traction tough? For many kinds of goods you have no choice but to buy American, or reasonably have no choice. People are going to boycott Facebook, Apple, Microsoft and Google? Cancel their Netflix and Amazon account? Besides businesses and supply chains are so intertwined it is hard to tell what you could and could not buy, your Chinese phone has American licensed IP and chips in it.
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Jun 3, 2017 00:48
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Oh, i'm pretty certain that the eu will find some more antitrust and monopoly charges against American corporations in the coming years if they really want to.
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Jun 3, 2017 01:44
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GaussianCopula posted:The earliest the US withdrawing from the Paris treaty will go into effect is 1 day before the next presidential election in the US.
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Jun 3, 2017 01:59
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lol just lol if you don't understand the poststructural chaos that is trump
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Jun 3, 2017 02:00
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The intercept on the withdrawal from Parisquote:So as we try to make sense of this latest drama, make no mistake: The Trump administration was never divided between those who wanted to shred the Paris Agreement and those who wanted to respect it. It was divided between those who wanted to shred it and those who wanted to stay in it but completely ignore it. The difference is one of optics; the same amount of carbon gets spewed either way.
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Jun 3, 2017 02:05
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sheep-dodger posted:The intercept on the withdrawal from Paris good, shows what kind of animal he is
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Jun 3, 2017 02:40
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sheep-dodger posted:The intercept on the withdrawal from Paris Whaddaya know, it turns out that the people who were saying Trump tells it like it is were right after all. If assholes have to be in power, it's probably better if they're too crass and stupid to be effectively hypocritical about it.
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Jun 3, 2017 05:37
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It got lost in all the posts in the Trump thread but a journalist claimed the Macron handshake as also a factor haha. I'd love to call bullshit but it can't be excluded
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Jun 3, 2017 08:10
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julian assflange posted:It got lost in all the posts in the Trump thread but a journalist claimed the Macron handshake as also a factor haha. I'd love to call bullshit but it can't be excluded Considering that the whole president Bannon shtick actually got Trump to axe Bannon anything is possible.
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Jun 3, 2017 08:20
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Trump is an instagram filter-applying fidget spinning teen in a fat pensioner's body.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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julian assflange posted:It got lost in all the posts in the Trump thread but a journalist claimed the Macron handshake as also a factor haha. I'd love to call bullshit but it can't be excluded
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Jun 3, 2017 08:46
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But isn't it part of his general goal of wrecking everything Obama did? He's been consistent about that IIRC.
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Jun 3, 2017 09:30
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Kassad posted:But isn't it part of his general goal of wrecking everything Obama did? He's been consistent about that IIRC.
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Jun 3, 2017 10:23
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It's making me think Trump would have pulled out no matter what, just by virtue of being his giant rear end in a top hat self. Macron might have sped things up, I guess.
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Jun 3, 2017 10:29
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Paris not Pittsburgh
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Jun 3, 2017 10:36
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Pulling out of the Paris Accords was not only a campaign promise, but it also makes life easier on some American corporations...it was almost certain to happen.
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Ardennes posted:Pulling out of the Paris Accords was not only a campaign promise, but it also makes life easier on some American corporations...it was almost certain to happen. Yes, pulling out of an treaty that sets non-binding goals for countries really helps american companies, especially because other countries will totally not use it as a reason to discriminate against them and there is no global consensus about climate change and that it needs to be combated. The concrete changes in US policy, that are more or less independent of the Paris Accords, will of course have an impact on the American economy, benefiting a few companies but hindering innovation and competitiveness in the long run. The big reason Trump did it was to have a victory to parade in front of the american electorate, because this is one of the few areas where he can actually do something without getting bitchslapped by checks and balances.
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Kurtofan posted:Paris not Pittsburgh Pittsburgh mayor immediately said he's for the Paris agreements. That's real and not something I made up.
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