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Majorian posted:Yeah, but he had appointed a wide variety of PMs before. Putin showed up near the nadir of Yeltsin's fortunes, after the '98 crash. I'd say there's no proof that 'Shock Therapy' was pushed on Russia, certainly not in some effort to ratfuck them and I wouldn't say it was a US sponsored effort. I mean clearly they had interests in it and it certainly seemed to benefit those interests, there's also plenty of questionable statements from officials at the time... Then again Putin benefited hugely from a series of terrorist attacks blamed on, but never conclusively linked to, Crimean separatists that resulted in the second Crimean war. There were questionable statements made (like Putin loyalists talking about attacks happening a week before they did) that raises some questions about the legitimacy of his own rise to power. Basically though NATO and the EU have become the poster boys for Russia's own unhappiness at their loss of global influence and the failure of their ability to cope with this has merely accelerated things. Countries aren't looking to join the EU because homonazis invaded and bribed their leaders with gayjew gold (which everyone wants because it is fabulous) they were joining because it seemed like a good economic deal and they wanted some security against Russia loving with them because, as much as Greece and other nations have problems with EU pressure it is a poo poo ton better than being in Russia's 'no Homonazis allowed!' club. Russians aren't intrinsically bad people and there needs to be some reflection on psychological reflection, changing states, etc. but ultimately there's a point where you need to start going 'ok the international system of nation states is how I want the world run' or 'Important Countries have spheres of influence within which they get to control what happens' Obviously this is also complicated by nuclear weapons. Putting this point in the equivalent of a footnote makes my analysis infinitely more academically credible than Seb Gorka's PhD. Edit: Yes! Missed dog tax by 1! Freeman of the Land!
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tetrapyloctomy posted:Coal mining was among the last of those jobs where people could make a good living and retire with a pension without needing a college degree. "I'm going to save the coal industry" is just another way of saying, "I'm with you, the good salt-of-the-earth, blue-collar, hardworking Americans, instead of with those liberal ivory-tower college-educated jerks that are wrecking your way of life." hope they can feed their families on republican lies then 
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https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/870770894146285568 I feel like she is trying to lose control of parliament
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The left tends to attack its canidates and politicians fairly and well. The problem is tue right co-ops those attacks and uses them along with their own bullshot.
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I don't know why you felt like editing that post, 9/10 chances somewhere in that sandwich is a dog anyway.
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With regards to Russian military actions, doesn't Poland have a military that could crush Russia's pretty much all on their own?
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MrNemo posted:I'd say there's no proof that 'Shock Therapy' was pushed on Russia, certainly not in some effort to ratfuck them and I wouldn't say it was a US sponsored effort. I mean clearly they had interests in it and it certainly seemed to benefit those interests, there's also plenty of questionable statements from officials at the time... I mean, it wasn't a nefarious plot to destroy Russia's economy, but it definitely was pushed by the US and its allies.
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Office Pig posted:I don't know why you felt like editing that post, 9/10 chances somewhere in that sandwich is a dog anyway. That particular dog was relevant: http://www.wdrb.com/story/14202723/bernsons-corner-drive-thru-dog
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Alter Ego posted:I cannot stop laughing at "porm" I'm wondering what's up with Wisconsin's weird obsession with stepmon..
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Trump's America God drat it, Minnesota...
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MrNemo posted:I'd say there's no proof that 'Shock Therapy' was pushed on Russia, certainly not in some effort to ratfuck them and I wouldn't say it was a US sponsored effort. I mean clearly they had interests in it and it certainly seemed to benefit those interests, there's also plenty of questionable statements from officials at the time... Chechen! Not Crimean
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Tatsuta Age posted:hope they can feed their families on republican lies then I honestly wonder if there is any way out for my hometown anymore. I think the answer is "no," unless some other industry wanted to repurpose the old mills and take advantage of rail shipping.
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I'm wondering what's up with Wisconsin's weird obsession with stepmon.. lol check a map nerd!
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I'm wondering what's up with Wisconsin's weird obsession with stepmon.. Isnt that Minnesota? Maybe a bunch of overzealous Digimon fans?
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I'm wondering what's up with Wisconsin's weird obsession with stepmon.. A rare Pokémon.
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:With regards to Russian military actions, doesn't Poland have a military that could crush Russia's pretty much all on their own? They have the 6th-largest military and the 3rd-largest defense budget, so no. edit: Good God, looking at the ranking of military budgets. We spend way too much loving money on our military. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:With regards to Russian military actions, doesn't Poland have a military that could crush Russia's pretty much all on their own? That really depends on how much of a paper tiger the Russian military is.
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I don't know that much about Charlie Baker, but he seems like a pragmatic dude. First he comes out against Trump's Muslim ban by giving his Dem AG his full support, then this. It's probably what a lot or Republican governors will have to do to survive 2018.
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The Glumslinger posted:https://twitter.com/JamesMelville/status/870770894146285568 The proper response to that is to ask when the PM's salary got its last bump. Well, the proper response is the guillotine, but people seem to think that we can still talk this out with the elite. 
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:That really depends on how much of a paper tiger the Russian military is. If the OSHA thread is any indication the Russia military will defeat itself.
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The question isn't really who can crush the other side, but the costs of sustaining a military conflict. That's where I think Russia has problems. Like actually moving things from A to B and keeping everything functioning.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:The question isn't really who can crush the other side, but the costs of sustaining a military conflict. That's where I think Russia has problems. Like actually moving things from A to B and keeping everything functioning. Yeah Russia can barely project power across their border.
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FizFashizzle posted:Were you feeling too happy today? I'm reminded of a meeting Jonathan Kozol used to retell. He was discussing failing schools with an unnamed, but he said well known, wealthy person and the person said 'What are we supposed to do, we can't just throw money at them and expect it to help!' to which he replied 'Why not, it's what you do with your child's schools.'
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:The question isn't really who can crush the other side, but the costs of sustaining a military conflict. That's where I think Russia has problems. Like actually moving things from A to B and keeping everything functioning. Not to mention that it's not as if sustained occupation has been a successful strategy even for countries that CAN afford it.
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Ego-bot posted:I don't know that much about Charlie Baker, but he seems like a pragmatic dude. First he comes out against Trump's Muslim ban by giving his Dem AG his full support, then this. It's probably what a lot or Republican governors will have to do to survive 2018. It's just a MA thing. He'd have to be mildly left, outwardly at least, even if the country wasn't in this position.
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He has refused to condemn Trump or support legislation to make Boston a sanctuary city or MA a sanctuary state. His public position is that he will "wait and see" on Trump and that he deserves the respect due the office of president. So basically he's a oval office.
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FunkMonkey posted:God drat it, Minnesota... The worst pokemon
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Putin is too smart to invade Poland. They have specifically built their force to fight an invasion and have a shitload of drones.
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:Putin is too smart to invade Poland. They have specifically built their force to fight an invasion and have a shitload of drones. Helps that Poland hates Russia with the fury of a thousand suns.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Trump's America I propose that "cumpilation" is valid, too bad that didn't make the list.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Helps that Poland hates Russia with the fury of a thousand suns. You're underselling it
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Fitzy Fitz posted:I'm wondering what's up with Wisconsin's weird obsession with stepmon..  edit: drat, beaten to it by a boatload because I went to find an image!!! Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Jun 3, 2017 |
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Rigel posted:We spend way too much loving money on our military. i've been saying this for decades but the response is always a hysterical SUPPORT ARE TROOPS or something like BUT THEN THE BAD GUYS CAN KILL US DEAD IN OUR HOMES like.... no mother fucker countries are not out to get us because they know the retaliation would wipe them off the map.
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Update on the RWM proxy war between Bannon and Kushner https://twitter.com/oliverdarcy/status/870785753831407616
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Poland is a member of NATO, so it doesn't matter how powerful their force is. Montenegro could kick Russia's rear end in a conventional war for the same reason.
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The Glumslinger posted:Update on the RWM proxy war between Bannon and Kushner  that's some good internal strife
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