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SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Ghost of Starman posted:

Is there a rule of thumb for how early you can do bosses? Or, I guess, how early is too early / "this will obviously take so much time & cost us so much health+mana its not worth it"? Or is it just gonna depend entirely on team comp?

Whenever you have a full wipe and a high damage squad ready to go is fine, generally after about level 10. Otherwise 13 is also a good time to start watching for opportunities.

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RevolverDivider
Nov 12, 2016

Oh my god double support comps are the worst and most toxic things to play against.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
So I guess Wailing Arrow is the ult you're SUPPOSED to take... but. It's boring and lame and mind control is so much more fun. Also Sylvannas is very fun

Bogart
Apr 12, 2010

by VideoGames

RevolverDivider posted:

Oh my god double support comps are the worst and most toxic things to play against.

toxic is not the word you want

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.
Its me, I'm the filthmonger who likes the Hammer brawl.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

1stGear posted:

Its me, I'm the filthmonger who likes the Hammer brawl.

I liked the brawl where it was random heroes and it was that arena where the two dudes fight in the middle. I would do just that if I could :(

Spudd
Nov 27, 2007

Protect children from "Safe Schools" social engineering. Shame!

Macaluso posted:

So I guess Wailing Arrow is the ult you're SUPPOSED to take... but. It's boring and lame and mind control is so much more fun. Also Sylvannas is very fun

Incorrect landing a Wailing Arrow is a lot more fun. This is a scientific fact.

Orange Crush Rush
May 7, 2009

You don't need thumbs for revenge
It's kind of impressive how much the Overwatch heroes have cranked up the mobilty power creep in this game. Like I don't think even LoL was this fast.

Like I'm looking at Malth here and I should be saying "ahaha he has Max HP% damage coming out his rear end" but all I really see is "he's gonna be garbage because he won't be able catch up to anything"

Orange Crush Rush fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Jun 3, 2017

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


Hello

I would like the surf board mount

Please and thank you

GenericOverusedName
Nov 24, 2009

KUVA TEAM EPIC
I was playing QM and got grouped with an absolutely terrifying Zul'jin who went full axe build and guillotine. He landed every single one, it was amazing. I have no idea how he managed to do it, not like we had a bunch of CC or anything.

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

Orange Crush Rush posted:

It's kind of impressive how much the Overwatch heroes have cranked up the mobilty power creep in this game. Like I don't think even LoL was this fast.

Remember when Blink and Dwarf Toss were the gold standards for mobility buttons?

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

I get that Tracer is the iconic overwatch character but I don't know why the gently caress this game needed genji. He's so loving annoying to track down.

Fellatio del Toro
Mar 21, 2009

Junkrat or Mei would have been better than any of the ones they've added

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Genji is very popular. But I agree that there is a lot of people I'd rather see first.
They're probably just making them in the order that they can develop kits for them. Generally in mobas they make mechanics then figure out the character that's going to have them. I assume hots does this too. But it's easy to imagine a top down approach with the overwatch characters.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


Genji happened because Hanamura was happening. If it wasn't Genji, it was gonna be Hanzo.

If only it was literally any other payload map.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Fellatio del Toro posted:

Junkrat or Mei would have been better than any of the ones they've added

I know there's an ongoing rumor that Junkrat is in the works. I could see him having an interesting enough kit to be added to Heroes, with the way his grenades would work and stuff. I imagine he'd be classified as a ranged specialist.

Genji is just not interesting from a character standpoint or his kit to be honest. I tried him out, he's fun enough of course, but he also doesn't feel like he brings anything all that interesting to the table. Also his ults are terrible lol

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


Toshimo posted:

Can someone do a gif of the tychus spray with animated pecs?

Asking for a friend.


I bring gifts.

SHY NUDIST GRRL
Feb 15, 2011

Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Hanamura isn't a payload map though

Genji's kit is cool it allows for some really skilled play. It's just that it feels like the diver assassins design space is cramped. As the cast expands more it might feel better

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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Still better than Hanzo, whose kit (other than the scouting arrow) would be horribly boring or straight up skillshot spam with a boring ult either way.

The only Overwatch characters who would be genuinely interesting, mechanics wise, would be either Symmetra or Junkrat, purely because they do stuff that no one else really does in HotS in some other way, shape, or form. Symmetra wood actually be amazing in this game, probably a little too good.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Fuzz posted:

Still better than Hanzo, whose kit (other than the scouting arrow) would be horribly boring or straight up skillshot spam with a boring ult either way.

The only Overwatch characters who would be genuinely interesting, mechanics wise, would be either Symmetra or Junkrat, purely because they do stuff that no one else really does in HotS in some other way, shape, or form. Symmetra wood actually be amazing in this game, probably a little too good.

I dunno I think Reinhardt could be interesting. You'd have to differentiate his charge from Diablo's though. Mei could be interesting too though I don't know how you'd make her work without drastically changing how her gun works. Sombra too I could see working. Winston could be good with his leap and Zenyatta could be a different enough support.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


Hanzo could be made interesting via not having a Basic Attack and just being all skillshots, all the time.

Batigh
Dec 21, 2009
I unlocked Samuro recently and have been greatly enjoying him in quick match, much to my surprise. One thing I struggle with, however, is securing kills on targets who aren't already dangerously low, since I don't think I have any exacting control over where the game plops the real me upon illusion spawns. I'm not the worst at body-blocking when I play warriors, but seeing as I don't usually shift to a favorable blocking position (and it's usually super dangerous to burn wind walk for that), most targets can just leave. Seeing as it's quick match, I can't count on getting matched with CC characters, and I'm kind of a scrub so I can't necessarily count on similarly-skilled teammates using CC wisely. Anyone got tips? I'll pay you in appreciation.

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

I think Zarya's kit is cool and fun and transfers well between both games.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
Sylvanas is amazing holy gently caress :psyduck:

Also I'm hoarding lootboxes, especially right now that we get a daily one, for that new stuff to go in but man it's so tempting to open them up the second you get them

VHGS
Jul 24, 2013

Macaluso posted:

Also his ults are terrible lol

I dunno man, even if a competent team would probably just kick me in the robo-dick, SWOOCE-ing in and slicing up a bunch of dudes is pretty rad.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


Just QM'd against a team of Falstad, Uther, Thrall, Muradin, and Ragnaros. Somehow they all had Sgt. Hammer's voice lines and they were spamming them the entire match.

I don't know how to feel about this.

lordfrikk
Mar 11, 2010

Oh, say it ain't fuckin' so,
you stupid fuck!
According to Fan Genji is pretty busted but from my gutter league POV you really REALLY need the mechanical skill and situational awareness of someone like him to reach that busted state. Otherwise you just don't do anything and die a lot. Seeing him Dragonblade basically the whole team after level 20 is kind of insane, though, and he did it several times.

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
*jumps up on a couch and shouts like Tom Cruise when he yelled about loving Katie Homes but it's about me loving Murky*

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

Macaluso posted:

Sylvanas is amazing holy gently caress :psyduck:

Also I'm hoarding lootboxes, especially right now that we get a daily one, for that new stuff to go in but man it's so tempting to open them up the second you get them

Just open the boxes. Almost all the junk they're adding is sprays which are cheap enough and the extra shards will let you buy the ones you like unless there's just literally nothing you want right now.

Alternatively: Never open any box EVER because what if they add a new hero you want? You'd be an idiot not to get them for free!

WITCHCRAFT
Aug 28, 2007

Berries That Burn
when the other team finds your fake murky egg

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

Coolness Averted posted:

Just open the boxes. Almost all the junk they're adding is sprays which are cheap enough and the extra shards will let you buy the ones you like unless there's just literally nothing you want right now.

Alternatively: Never open any box EVER because what if they add a new hero you want? You'd be an idiot not to get them for free!

Calm down. This stuff is obviously coming in a few weeks. If he wants to hoard his boxes at extra chances for Tychus loot, don't goon out about it.

myron cope
Apr 21, 2009

They need to add some Hearthsone stuff. They could even add heroes but it would be a stretch because they do 1 thing so making them full characters with skills and abilities would be hard (but I'm sure they could do it.)

But they should add Hearthstone stuff anyway. There's a couple mounts right?

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!
You could make a Hearthstone map. It already got the symmetry thing going. You could even be crazy and have the stage be vertical to match the layout of a Hearthstone board. Gimmicks of the map are based around cards. Maybe similar to Towers of Doom where you're not attacking the core directly using card plays somehow idk

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

Macaluso posted:

You could make a Hearthstone map. It already got the symmetry thing going. You could even be crazy and have the stage be vertical to match the layout of a Hearthstone board. Gimmicks of the map are based around cards. Maybe similar to Towers of Doom where you're not attacking the core directly using card plays somehow idk

I don't think vertical maps work because of art assets.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


And monitor aspect ratios I would imagine :v:

Stinky Wizzleteats
Nov 26, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 3 days!
the hearthstone idea got me thinking: Dr. Boom

Fellatio del Toro
Mar 21, 2009

Problem with Hearthstone is that HOTS doesn't really do RNG

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Fellatio del Toro posted:

Problem with Hearthstone is that HOTS doesn't really do RNG

Tell that to quick match matchmaking AM I RIGHT FOLKS :iamafag:

EdRush
Dec 13, 2005

by R. Guyovich

myron cope posted:

They need to add some Hearthsone stuff. They could even add heroes but it would be a stretch because they do 1 thing so making them full characters with skills and abilities would be hard (but I'm sure they could do it.)

But they should add Hearthstone stuff anyway. There's a couple mounts right?

I'd like to see Aya Blackpaw (or someone similiar) with some kind of Jade Golem mechanic that gets stronger as the game goes on. They empower her attacks somehow or ideally they're little summons that get stronger the more of them you have called in, but the devs have said they are moving away from summoner characters.

I would also imagine they will do Garrosh at some point in the future with some kind of weapon switching mechanic. He must have the Fiery War Axe.

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Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

Who is that? Uther?

Fuzz posted:

Still better than Hanzo, whose kit (other than the scouting arrow) would be horribly boring or straight up skillshot spam with a boring ult either way.

The only Overwatch characters who would be genuinely interesting, mechanics wise, would be either Symmetra or Junkrat, purely because they do stuff that no one else really does in HotS in some other way, shape, or form. Symmetra wood actually be amazing in this game, probably a little too good.

Yeah, there's nobody in the game with a beam attack, turrets, teleport gates, or shielding, after all! :v:

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