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Those are amazing, but the very last one about the Harlequins is my favorite.
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Looking for opinions on whether Blood Bowl is worth a gently caress or fun, please and thanks. Like, once the novelty of orcs with footballs wears off will anyone want to keep playing?
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I took my guard out and played my first game in like 3 years. Woo! My opponent was a friend of a friend getting his first game of 40k in ever, being an Age of Sigmar player. He was using a friend's Custodians and Sisters of Silence models, as well as some others odds and ends. I gave him my old metal Ordo Xenos inquisitor as his Greyfax kept falling off her base.   Custodians are silly good. They have incredible stats but are super expensive. For all my tanks and guardsmens, He had a grand total of 10 Custodians and 10 Sisters along with 2 Contemptors and a Land Raider (who did nothing). All the Lasguns and Plasma Cannons in the world are not going to save you when you roll 1 to wound constantly.  All those guardsmen will pour rounds into them for a grand total of 1 dead Custodian. The next turn saw a lot more dead Guardsmen.  Here are the MVPs in my book. The humble scout sentinel and his autocannon. They move 9 inchs, have 6 wounds, and the autocannon is a monster now. With each unsaved wound dealing 2 damage, I could see where the autocannon sentinel could be a real terror. The unit felt pretty beefy with the entire 3 man squad having 18 wounds in total. So good.  The plasma sentinels also did well. Plasma guns in general are really solid. The options to fire off a shot at str 7 AP-3 without risk to yourself makes them really solid buys for just about any reason. That AP really matters where as Str 7 seems pretty universally good. Ok, so not a perfect battle report. We played about 3 or 4 rounds and we were really rusty in general. We were both being super friendly and patient as we both had to stop and consult the leaks or printouts or friends who had a few more games under the belt. I mean I was playing guard in a game with no objectives and I moved my guys up the table just because. It was a friendly game. Still, its easily the most fun I've had playing 40k in a long time. The game feels great. Major takeaways: The new to-hit and to-wound system is fantastic. The chart is simplistic and easy to remember. Within a few attack rolls, I knew the basic to-hit for my army. It really sped up combat in general. The AP system will take some getting used to but it clicked pretty easy. Overall, I felt it flowed nicely and both me and my opponent could sail though a shooting turn with ease by the second turn. The new deployment system is nice. I wish there was some concrete terrain placement rules but that is mostly my Warmachine side talking. I will look into it more. The new movement system is great. My Chimera moves 12 inches normally. The Sentinels are 9inchs for the scout and 8 for the armored. Everything feels faster and more mobile which makes for a much more interesting game. This game and the game I watched (Salamanders v Tau) felt much more dynamic. Weapon Balance felt really good. Lots of good dynamics but AP felt like it was in a good place. The fact that I even got to make armor saves as a Guard player was nice. And when I did not, it was for obvious stuff like a Melta-shot or something suitably ridiculous from a Custodian. The everything can wound did lead to the hilarity of my opponent's land raider being more effective with its Storm Bolter and Heavy Bolter shots than its Lascannons when it came to attacking my tanks.
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Jun 3, 2017 05:38
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Rando posted:Looking for opinions on whether Blood Bowl is worth a gently caress or fun, please and thanks. Like, once the novelty of orcs with footballs wears off will anyone want to keep playing? Yes. It's an amazing game.
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Jun 3, 2017 05:50
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Tabletop Tactics have their first 8th batrep up if you have a spare 2 and a half hours https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGLqw2kRXeM
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Jun 3, 2017 05:56
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Rando posted:Looking for opinions on whether Blood Bowl is worth a gently caress or fun, please and thanks. Like, once the novelty of orcs with footballs wears off will anyone want to keep playing? If you live in the DC area, I'm running a league. A good place to talk about it is here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3804679
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Jun 3, 2017 05:57
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Anyone know of any sites or Chicagoland stores that will have a good discount on Dark Imperium pre-orders?
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Jun 3, 2017 06:04
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Rando posted:Looking for opinions on whether Blood Bowl is worth a gently caress or fun, please and thanks. Like, once the novelty of orcs with footballs wears off will anyone want to keep playing? Blood Bowl is secretly the best game GW has ever done. The broken elf bones are just the icing on the cake
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Jun 3, 2017 06:19
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General Olloth posted:My friend is trying to put together an 8th list for Orks and he has a somewhat interesting question. Boyz are 6 points each, and Nobz are 17 points each. So do you need to pay 17 points to get the Boss Nob in a Boyz squad, even though it has worse stats than a Nob? The index clearly says you get 10 boyz base, can take more, and a boss nob MAY take the place of one Ork Boy. Otherwise you'd have to, but in this case you don't. The points costs are for COSTS. You still have to field legal units. You look at the unit entry to see what you can or can not take in the unit. In this case he's optional. As for why he's worse than a Nob Nob, well, fluff wise he's a "Boss Nob" but he's really a Boy Sarge, which isn't as good as a Nob. You could tell yourself that Ork Boss Nobs aren't as big as the normal Nobs or the Nob leaders, thus they have to pick on smaller Orks to feel better about themselves  Beer4TheBeerGod posted:It says elsewhere that squad leaders are free. Whoa, that's good to know.
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Jun 3, 2017 06:53
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Rando posted:Looking for opinions on whether Blood Bowl is worth a gently caress or fun, please and thanks. Like, once the novelty of orcs with footballs wears off will anyone want to keep playing? Ironically 40k is the game that seems real serious but deep down its a mess, while Blood Bowl is the game that seems like a silly fun mess but deep down is actually a very balanced and interesting game that is played in tournaments as much as 40k is. Blood bowl rules. We talk about it a lot in the Games Workshop Specialist Games thread. Some people hate Blood Bowl because of how it works, but if you're willing to embrace the way the turnovers and such work, there's a ton of fun to be had in the strategy beyond just "lol ork footballers" Not only that, but the game features campaign rules for managing your team, hiring new dudes, dudes getting injured, etc. which adds a ton of replayability.
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Jun 3, 2017 06:56
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adamantium|wang posted:Tabletop Tactics have their first 8th batrep up if you have a spare 2 and a half hours I found the Imperium's Psyker exploding and damaging a good chunk of their forces entertaining.
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Jun 3, 2017 07:04
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Zaphod42 posted:Ironically 40k is the game that seems real serious but deep down its a mess, while Blood Bowl is the game that seems like a silly fun mess but deep down is actually a very balanced and interesting game that is played in tournaments as much as 40k is. I kind of wish there were Blood Bowl or Necromunda style campaign rules for games like 40k, but I feel like balancing those for a large scale game would be a mess
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Jun 3, 2017 07:14
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adamantium|wang posted:Tabletop Tactics have their first 8th batrep up if you have a spare 2 and a half hours Man, 8th looks so good. Gonna be a long couple of weeks. MonsterEnvy posted:I found the Imperium's Psyker exploding and damaging a good chunk of their forces entertaining. Holy poo poo that's happening right now and it's great. The best part is that he tried to use a command point reroll to keep the psyker from dying and rolled another 5. 
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Jun 3, 2017 07:17
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The Bee posted:I kind of wish there were Blood Bowl or Necromunda style campaign rules for games like 40k, but I feel like balancing those for a large scale game would be a mess 2nd edition was like that wasn't it? Persistent stats on characters throughout campaigns and things.
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Jun 3, 2017 07:17
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Rando posted:Looking for opinions on whether Blood Bowl is worth a gently caress or fun, please and thanks. Like, once the novelty of orcs with footballs wears off will anyone want to keep playing? People were playing Blood Bowl completely unsupported for about a decadd before GW remembered it existed. It's a good game.
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Jun 3, 2017 07:28
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:It says elsewhere that squad leaders are free. Here's what messed me up. This page you linked:  I can't find it in the core rulebook leak. The battleforged page looks totally different, and the bit about champions is missing. It must not be captured in the leak.
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Jun 3, 2017 07:33
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quote:In matched play games you only pay points for the models you actually have in an under-strength unit Does that mean I can take a single 3-point grot and have it take up a troop slot?
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Jun 3, 2017 07:42
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Yes. It's an amazing game. The Sex Cannon posted:If you live in the DC area, I'm running a league. A good place to talk about it is here: bandaid.friend posted:Blood Bowl is secretly the best game GW has ever done. The broken elf bones are just the icing on the cake Zaphod42 posted:Ironically 40k is the game that seems real serious but deep down its a mess, while Blood Bowl is the game that seems like a silly fun mess but deep down is actually a very balanced and interesting game that is played in tournaments as much as 40k is. Corrode posted:People were playing Blood Bowl completely unsupported for about a decadd before GW remembered it existed. It's a good game. Thanks, all
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Jun 3, 2017 07:44
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Pendent posted:Man, 8th looks so good. Gonna be a long couple of weeks. Then later on the same thing happens with their tank exploding. (Except it is even more unlikely cause he needed a six for it to explode then rerolled it into another 6.) MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 07:49 on Jun 3, 2017 |
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Jun 3, 2017 07:47
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Zaphod42 posted:Ironically 40k is the game that seems real serious but deep down its a mess, while Blood Bowl is the game that seems like a silly fun mess but deep down is actually a very balanced and interesting game that is played in tournaments as much as 40k is. I love how you've summarized this.
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Floppychop posted:Does that mean I can take a single 3-point grot and have it take up a troop slot? Interesting for those min-3 zoey units, or Oblits...
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Jun 3, 2017 07:51
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Unfortunately, the leaked rules change that to say you must still take it as if it was minimum cost.
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Jun 3, 2017 08:14
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adamantium|wang posted:Tabletop Tactics have their first 8th batrep up if you have a spare 2 and a half hours Oh man...I really want to see how this plays but 30 minutes in and I'm already losing the ability to stand the guy who keeps defending GW in a video that is only going to be watched by fanboys.
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Jun 3, 2017 08:20
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The Bee posted:I kind of wish there were Blood Bowl or Necromunda style campaign rules for games like 40k, but I feel like balancing those for a large scale game would be a mess SW:A IS literally Necromunda without the campaign rules (but with all the factions of 40k). Hopefully they'll just add that bit in sometime.
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General Olloth posted:Here's what messed me up. This has to be an earlier version or a different book or something. Something's fucky. The page number at the bottom has a circle around it; none of the page numbers in the core rulebook we've seen leaked are like that. The formatting's all different. Although all the pages weren't leaked, so maybe its just special formatting for that one page... but we do have several leaked pages about matched play already.. The Bee posted:Unfortunately, the leaked rules change that to say you must still take it as if it was minimum cost. But yeah... this is a contradiction
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Jun 3, 2017 09:27
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Der Waffle Mous posted:There's this knee-jerk reaction I get when someone says that kits like, say, scouts or aspect warriors are super old and need an update. Coincidentally, aspect warriors are about as old as Gladiator. Also, still are not plastic.
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Jun 3, 2017 10:18
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Boon posted:Coincidentally, aspect warriors are about as old as Gladiator. Also, still are not plastic. Most Aspects are from 2006 when the 4th ed book came out.
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Jun 3, 2017 10:25
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The cadian command squad and the flagellants kits go together so well, I can't stop making acolytes and zealots (/male repentia  ) to chase heretics with my inquisitor (special mention to the neophyte hybrids kit as a great source of heads and shotguns).
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Jun 3, 2017 11:31
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Need some quick opinions guys on the tablescape tiles. They have 24 tile sets here for £100. Are they worth it? That would do a 6 by 4.
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Jun 3, 2017 11:46
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OK, Pre-orders are up. Any UK Goons looking to split a DV Box? I'm after the rules and Primaris (I may end up selling them later anyway).
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Jun 3, 2017 11:48
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Thundercloud posted:Need some quick opinions guys on the tablescape tiles. They have 24 tile sets here for £100. Are they worth it? The secret weapon ones? Yeah, they are a heck of a lot nicer than the GW boards for being model friendly.
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LordAba posted:The secret weapon ones? Yeah, they are a heck of a lot nicer than the GW boards for being model friendly. They have scrapyard, damaged urban and rolling hills. Scrapyard has the most individual tiles, but I would like to do cityfight.
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Zark the Damned posted:OK, Pre-orders are up. Any UK Goons looking to split a DV Box? I'm after the rules and Primaris (I may end up selling them later anyway). I will PM you later
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Jun 3, 2017 12:40
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If I pre-order online, will it be shipped on the 17th or will they ship it with the intent on arriving around the 17th? I'm debating if I should get it online or pre-order from the FLGS which is 20 miles away.
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OhDearGodNo posted:If I pre-order online, will it be shipped on the 17th or will they ship it with the intent on arriving around the 17th? Should arrive on launch day. No guarantee.
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Jun 3, 2017 12:42
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Eh, checked with FLGS and they are doing 15% off so I'll grab an index as well.
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Zaphod42 posted:SW:A IS literally Necromunda without the campaign rules (but with all the factions of 40k). Hopefully they'll just add that bit in sometime. The standalone rule book for SW:A has campaign rules. Otherwise I believe they're available online for free. Vaguely related, but there was talk of SM scouts before, and since those are the main unit for Marines in SW, I'm assuming they're not going anywhere.
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Thundercloud posted:They have scrapyard, damaged urban and rolling hills. Scrapyard has the most individual tiles, but I would like to do cityfight. I have a couple sets from the kickstarter they did. The damaged and whole urban sets are pretty nice, and make a cityfight terrain a breeze. The streets are big enough for 2 rhinos to pass each other comfortably. The details are nice, but plain enough that you can easily fit buildings on the building parts.
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Something I just noticed is that there no longer seems to be an option to use grenades in combat. They all seem to have a ranged profile only and the grenade rules only allow a single attack per unit per shooting phase with them. Does this mean there's no more tac squads taking down a Carnifex in combat with several krak grenades anymore?
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xtothez posted:Does this mean there's no more tac squads taking down a Carnifex in combat with several krak grenades anymore? Only one grenade use per unit killed that a long time ago.  Dumb but true.
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