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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Namtab posted:If this isn't a quote then I hate you I guess It's from IFM's hero, Sargon. E: June 3rd, 1956: third class rail service ends on British Railways Igiari fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Jun 3, 2017 |
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Igiari posted:It's from IFM's hero, Sargon.
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TBF I was transcribing one of his videos because I have lots of cool and fun things to do on a Friday night and that was one of them.
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Jun 3, 2017 07:54
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I'm glad that you guys watched the debate last night so I didn't have to. Interestingly the guardian is way more positive on corbyn and down on may, they don't seem to think the nuke thing was a big deal.
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Igiari posted:TBF I was transcribing one of his videos because I have lots of cool and fun things to do on a Friday night and that was one of them.
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baka kaba posted:For people who are undecided it makes the status quo look like a safer bet. Who knows how much effect it will have but it could have been a lot worse for May and a lot better for Corbyn I'm not going to dare to make a serious prediction about this based on the Trump and Brexit upsets - but I would argue that people aren't particularly happy with the status quo right now. Theresa May is having to spend most of her time with the public defending the abhorrent legacy of the Conservatives over the last 7 years, and her answer is almost unfailingly 'I'm sorry your life is poo poo, but I'm not going to promise to improve it.' Their ad campaigns seem to be 'vote Conservative for the status quo or face the uncertainty of Labour', which isn't really a complimentary choice when the status quo is forcing you to use foodbanks and keeping your family waiting forever for necessary medical care.
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Jun 3, 2017 08:06
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Jippa posted:I'm glad that you guys watched the debate last night so I didn't have to. Interestingly the guardian is way more positive on corbyn and down on may, they don't seem to think the nuke thing was a big deal. The BBC coverage and commentator's round-ups are both fine too. I wonder if we've all just been triggered by fuds.
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Yeah, likewise I couldn't watch it (instead just getting more and more depressed reading your reactions), but I don't think it went much worse or better than it was ever going to. Not many people will have actually watched it, the 'serious commentators' have declared it a draw, like they were always going to, the Saturday papers have ignored it or missed it for their front pages (The Daily Mail went completely non political...), and the Sunday and Monday papers will have moved on to something different. The only real chance for a breakthrough was if May had broken down or something, which was temptingly plausible but unlikely. Of course, the Trident and IRA questions were going to come up, they've been coming up since the first leadership run. Strangely this thread keeps insisting they're irrelevant, but seriously, we all knew they were going to be issues. Are there any more quasi-debates/question times?
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It's been two years since Jeremy Corbyn announced he was standing for leadership of the Labour Party.
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Baron Corbyn posted:It's been two years since Jeremy Corbyn announced he was standing for leadership of the Labour Party.
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HAT FETISH posted:Two landslide leadership elections, too Here's to three.
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Going on the headlines I hear Corbyn had trouble with Britain's fattest, baldest, drunkest old men.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Going on the headlines I hear Corbyn had trouble with Britain's fattest, baldest, drunkest old men. Just going off the reactions itt (not having the BBC here) it sounds like Corbyn started off real strong and then got a loving ton of auld fuckers demanding over and over to know if he'd ever hit the big red button if the nukes were to ever start dropping on the uk, and he refused to either entertain the notion OR answer it to the auld fuckers satisfaction. Other than that, purely going on the reaction in here, May was utterly out of her depth and desperately sticking to her pre-prepared lines.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Going on the headlines I hear Corbyn had trouble with Britain's fattest, baldest, drunkest old men. I didn't see any of my uncles on the debates? ( actual serious- my biggest, fattest, drunkest, most obnoxious uncle is providing a constant stream of corbyn love on Facebook. Makes a pleasant change from sexist jokes and hating on sturgeon)
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Jun 3, 2017 09:11
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"Mutually Assured Destruction" is the greatest force for peace in human history. A leader of a nuclear nation without the moral courage to commit to deterrence is a threat to world peace, no matter what he thinks his intentions are.
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From April 2017: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-nuclear-weapons-first-strike-michael-fallon-general-election-jeremy-corbyn-trident-a7698621.html Strong and stable = let's keep open minded about killing millions of people in a preemptive strike. Y'know just in case.
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Mighty Steed posted:From April 2017: Theresa May open to committing national suicide. The cinders left by Old Blighty will be the strongest and stablest in the world.
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hakimashou posted:"Mutually Assured Destruction" is the greatest force for peace in human history. This is just my hot take, but i think nuclear weapons are bad and their use shouldn't ever be an option, and fire back is also bad because it punishes the wrong people this has been tits hot takes, please like share and subscribe
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Anybody putting the theoretical question to Corbyn about whether he'd press the button had better be prepared to back up whatever fanciful scenario it's taking place in. That Yorkshire bloke who cited North Korea, what kind of loving Call of Duty bullshit is that? Do these people still think Britain is a superpower that would be anywhere near the top of North Korea's hit list? Ditto Iran which doesn't have even have nukes. Why would Iran be interested in nuking Britain rather than - just to pick a county totally at random - Israel, for example?
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hakimashou posted:"Mutually Assured Destruction" is the greatest force for peace in human history. Youre the moron who thinks we should have preemptively obliterated the whole of eastern europe immediately after ww2 so your opinions on nuclear deterrence aren't worth the corn in my poo poo.
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Nuke me daddy
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tithin posted:Just going off the reactions itt (not having the BBC here) it sounds like Corbyn started off real strong and then got a loving ton of auld fuckers demanding over and over to know if he'd ever hit the big red button if the nukes were to ever start dropping on the uk, and he refused to either entertain the notion OR answer it to the auld fuckers satisfaction. More or less. "Mr Corbyn I am a And May's typical response was: "Prime Minister, [issue]?" "I am aware of [issue], and it is my firm belief that [issue] is [issue], however pertaining to that, it must be said with absolute resoluteness that we will act will resolve in order to keep strong, and not rely on Labour's magic money tree as a solution, uniting the country in a strong bond *drones on aimlessly*"
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freebooter posted:Anybody putting the theoretical question to Corbyn about whether he'd press the button had better be prepared to back up whatever fanciful scenario it's taking place in. That Yorkshire bloke who cited North Korea, what kind of loving Call of Duty bullshit is that? Do these people still think Britain is a superpower that would be anywhere near the top of North Korea's hit list? We're pretty much number 2 on Iran's shitlist after Israel. They have long memories. Not that I think them nuking us is at least remotely plausible but we do have a long and storied history of loving up other countries.
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Tories U-turn on plan to build more socially rented council housingquote:The Conservatives have U-turned on a flagship pledge to build “a new generation” of social housing announced in their manifesto just weeks ago.
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Maugrim posted:Small point but current recommendation for children with Down's Syndrome is that they go to regular schools if possible as the evidence indicates it helps their development if they learn alongside typical peers. For that to happen and be effective there does need to be funding/support in place. And yet strangely despite May's claims I do not trust the Tories to deliver it. Is it now. How much of this evidence came to light after the Tory party discovered just how expensive special schools are? Cases should be assessed on an individual basis, it is absolutely horrifying that government and council pen pushers get to override actual medical professionals, and it's nothing short of evil that some areas won't even start the diagnosis process for children with ASD until they are 3, learning difficulties or not. If you show me somone who thinks a child with Down's syndrome would do better in a poor inner city school than they would in a special school then I'll show you a oval office.
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tithin posted:Just going off the reactions itt (not having the BBC here) it sounds like Corbyn started off real strong and then got a loving ton of auld fuckers demanding over and over to know if he'd ever hit the big red button if the nukes were to ever start dropping on the uk, and he refused to either entertain the notion OR answer it to the auld fuckers satisfaction. Going 'purely by the reaction here' would be a mistake. Corbyn was pushed on the nuclear question because he was unable to give a satisfactory answer. He was questioned on the IRA because there are question marks over his relationship with them during the troubles. He wasn't good under that sort of scrutiny. May did fine and she herself was pushed on the dementia tax issue. These 'old fuckers' that are being dismissed for asking the wrong questions have votes.
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hakimashou posted:"Mutually Assured Destruction" is the greatest force for peace in human history. gently caress off, guy who wishes the Russians had been exterminated in nuclear fire.
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i liked the bloke who was of the belief that if corbyn launched nukes it would stop the ones already on their way to us
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Morning britons! You're gonna have a Tory government and get hosed forever because apparently it's super important that in an end of the world scenario the pm launches nukes and kill millions who are already going to die anyways! It's more important than 10£ an hour and free college!
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Pissflaps posted:Going 'purely by the reaction here' would be a mistake. They're entitled to their opinion, and they're also entitled to express their opinion, and they're entitled to query a potential leader of the united kingdom on the basis of their opinion. I am also entitled to call them auld fuckers because I feel their questions were foolish
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I think being committed to anything other than worldwide nuclear disarmament shows an incomplete appreciation of just how horrible nukes actually are. The instinctive moral revulsion you feel hearing the testimonies of survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki is not unreasonable.
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learnincurve posted:Is it now. How much of this evidence came to light after the Tory party discovered just how expensive special schools are? Cases should be assessed on an individual basis, it is absolutely horrifying that government and council pen pushers get to override actual medical professionals, and it's nothing short of evil that some areas won't even start the diagnosis process for children with ASD until they are 3, learning difficulties or not. Development is about more than education, it's also a social thing. Having people with downs in mainstream schools, at least at primary level with the appropriate support in place, is a good thing. It also helps normalise their existence which is good given that ld issues outside of autism are basically never discussed outside of a scandal like winterbourne. Besides which, speaking as an actual medical professional, it would not be my place to decide on their education - it's not a medical issue. Outside of the most severe cases I'd also argue that its not evil that the asd process doesn't start until 3, as small children develop at different rates so it wouldn't be until that age that the differences become really apparent (this is a reason why mmr jabs became an issue). Please endeavour to remember that even in Tory Britain healthcare (including diagnostics) is still based on the best evidence. If you want to slam the government wrt ld issues, some battles worth fighting are the pisspoor implementation of the autism act, the cuts to social care having an effect on the speed of finding appropriate placements (particularly in complex cases), and the more borderline people still have to face pip investigations.
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Jose posted:i liked the bloke who was of the belief that if corbyn launched nukes it would stop the ones already on their way to us It's like shooting bullets out of the air.
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Reduce the value of your vote the more likely you are to die of old imo. I'm joking but I do wish old people would gently caress off.
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Jose posted:i liked the bloke who was of the belief that if corbyn launched nukes it would stop the ones already on their way to us Wasn't there a fanciful plan during the cold war to have nuclear missiles capable of doing this? ICBM interception wasn't really possible with conventional missiles but with a nuke you just need to detonate it near enough the incoming warhead to knock it off course, render it incapable of detonating or just destroy outright. I might have imagined that though. "Fanciful cold war nuke ideas" were ten a penny back then, and all equally laughable. What's everyone's favorite pie-in-the-sky nuke idea? I quite like the "let's put nuclear land mines in east Europe" one
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Watch your back, Pyongyang! Britain is strong, stable and horny for nukes.
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Not Operator posted:Watch your back, Pyongyang! Britain is strong, stable and horny for nukes. I'm horny for a lot of things
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Best of luck with Pissflaps, Namtab. I believe in you.
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