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I don't really get the point of the "Pasqualo goes crazy in space for billions of years" arc, when at the end he essentially runs into God and Satan analogues and makes an 'ultimate choice' that could have been done in heaven/hell? Though I guess being utterly alone forever in hostile alien worlds is a pretty good depression metaphor. And it was cool to watch the scope of the setting gradually widen from beginning to end. But it did wildly alter the story's arc at the very end for confusing payoff. I don't understand why it would be impossible to remake Aurora as a regular person without fundamentally changing who she is, but it's okay to make a new mashup person that's half her and half him. Doesn't that change who she is pretty significantly? And if he can just mix and match like that, why not like, combine Aurora with someone who otherwise died at birth or something so she gets a new regular human life but doesn't overwrite someone else's? Lastly, it really makes me sad that Trissh and Katie, specifically, do not appear or get mentioned anywhere in the finale. They're not in Pasqualo's memories and they don't show up in nu-verse. Maybe this indicates they are not constant presences in iterations of P's life like Ally and Tubsy? Still, there was a very long stretch of the comic they were more prominent characters than Tubs. They were also each very important to helping Pasqualo grow as a character, especially Katie. The story took great pains to show that her and Pasqualo's relationship was based on mutual respect AND that happiness was possible for him without a literal deus ex machina. And yet... as soon as they reached hell the 2 characters stopped having much to do, and by the end they've been completely forgotten along with the lessons they helped impart. That said, the story became a kind of fable and creation myth, and those kind of stories always have to be kind of cyclical and bookended. There was a lot of action and emotion in the middle parts of the story that never tied up, and the part of me that grew attached to them is a little disappointed. Still, a fantastic story, and I enjoyed it very much!
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Wasabi the J posted:nah it's a fair gripe; I don't like the reset ending as much as other potential endings. It's not a reset ending, though. Its an entirely new universe that exists after the previous one, it didn't replace or reset anything. That's a new Ally, and a new Tubsy, and a new Aurora.
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feetnotes posted:I don't really get the point of the "Pasqualo goes crazy in space for billions of years" arc, when at the end he essentially runs into God and Satan analogues and makes an 'ultimate choice' that could have been done in heaven/hell? Though I guess being utterly alone forever in hostile alien worlds is a pretty good depression metaphor. And it was cool to watch the scope of the setting gradually widen from beginning to end. But it did wildly alter the story's arc at the very end for confusing payoff. You ever read Asimov's The Question? Pasq needs to show he has what it takes to answer how to create a new universe, and spending a kalpa solving problems and traversing the entirety of existence give him that. feetnotes posted:I don't understand why it would be impossible to remake Aurora as a regular person without fundamentally changing who she is, but it's okay to make a new mashup person that's half her and half him. Doesn't that change who she is pretty significantly? And if he can just mix and match like that, why not like, combine Aurora with someone who otherwise died at birth or something so she gets a new regular human life but doesn't overwrite someone else's? well, remember, aurora was specifically created to answer pasq's desire to be happy. So long as pasq exists, Aurora will be drawn to him and cause the apocalypse (because she's a fragment of harmony.) And there's nothing half-and-half about aurorasqualo, pasq is completely erased from existence and aurora got stuck in his place. Presumably Aurora's nature is so resilient that she'll maintain the weapons-grade optimism even in the face of dad. feetnotes posted:Lastly, it really makes me sad that Trissh and Katie, specifically, do not appear or get mentioned anywhere in the finale. They're not in Pasqualo's memories and they don't show up in nu-verse. Maybe this indicates they are not constant presences in iterations of P's life like Ally and Tubsy? Still, there was a very long stretch of the comic they were more prominent characters than Tubs. They were also each very important to helping Pasqualo grow as a character, especially Katie. The story took great pains to show that her and Pasqualo's relationship was based on mutual respect AND that happiness was possible for him without a literal deus ex machina. And yet... as soon as they reached hell the 2 characters stopped having much to do, and by the end they've been completely forgotten along with the lessons they helped impart. On the stream, gob said that Trisssh still exists as a snake monster and Katie still has a bunch of crazy theories (that will be right). And harmony literally said that there were loads and loads of ways for pasq to become happy without aurora. Also remember that the entire audience filled with iterations of pasq (including God Dammit pasq) heavily implies that pasq has done this many times before.
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May 31, 2017 18:44
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The Cheshire Cat posted:Well it's not as if he ever noticed how much of a dick his dad was in the first place. I'd imagine the new version would be the same way. He figured it out when they met in Heaven, culminating in eating his hat. So I choose to believe he changed that for the better, all evidence or creator statements to the contrary.
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May 31, 2017 19:20
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Ah, a good ending for a good comic. Wish it wasn't done, but glad to see it completed well instead of petering off into eternal hiatus like so many other comics. Thanks for telling us this story, Gob & Co.!
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the ending was nice when i first started to read it hurts in one of the webcomic threads, i thought that it was poo poo, but then at one point i started to enjoy reading it, not sure if it was before the 100th strip one of the main things that separates it hurts!! from other webcomics, and the reason i like it so much, is that it had a plot that was going somewhere and the characters didn't have plot armor thanks for making a great comic gob! what are you going to do next? 
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the comic had some nice plot twists, but the biggest one was when gob revealed that he had been a goon for years 
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Jun 2, 2017 00:23
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RIP Pasqualo. You were too sad and gay for this world~
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Hogge Wild posted:the comic had some nice plot twists, but the biggest one was when gob revealed that he had been a goon for years Gobolatula posted:I did, yeah! My best friend / editor pointed it out to me a while ago along with this thread. I wasn't sure if it was appropriate for me to pop in here and say hi and stuff, but anyway... HI! Please don't mind me. DOPE FIEND KILLA G posted:holy poo poo that reg date
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Wait, so does this mean a goon project was actually completed?! 
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Hogge Wild posted:the ending was nice I know I started to really like it before 100 at least just because of Pow Gangsta poo poo.
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aw man I just realized the ending means they never hang out with Trisssssssssh  Otoh she never gets exposed to the internet.
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The thing that rubs me wrong about the whole goddamn story is that never once do they actually address the fact that Pasqualo is a big dumb beta bitch and supreme crybaby who has been carried through most of his dumb depressed existence by Allison, that gets touched on exactly once after the apocalypse with the whole 'my sister is dead you loving anus' and than the balance is literally never again addressed. I mean obviously Pasqualo changes when he turns into a manic wasteland warlord which takes a load off Allison but he never really does anything for her besides. Allison is too good for this gay Pasqualo.
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Motherfucker posted:The thing that rubs me wrong about the whole goddamn story is that never once do they actually address the fact that Pasqualo is a big dumb beta bitch and supreme crybaby who has been carried through most of his dumb depressed existence by Allison, that gets touched on exactly once after the apocalypse with the whole 'my sister is dead you loving anus' and than the balance is literally never again addressed. I mean obviously Pasqualo changes when he turns into a manic wasteland warlord which takes a load off Allison but he never really does anything for her besides. Allison is too good for this gay Pasqualo. I don't think this story is for you.
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Motherfucker posted:The thing that rubs me wrong about the whole goddamn story is that never once do they actually address the fact that Pasqualo is a big dumb beta bitch and supreme crybaby who has been carried through most of his dumb depressed existence by Allison, that gets touched on exactly once after the apocalypse with the whole 'my sister is dead you loving anus' and than the balance is literally never again addressed. I mean obviously Pasqualo changes when he turns into a manic wasteland warlord which takes a load off Allison but he never really does anything for her besides. Allison is too good for this gay Pasqualo. Do you have friends?
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Nah the rest is mad good especially when satan shoots him in the dick.Laputanmachine posted:Do you have friends? no please tell me what its like
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Jun 2, 2017 12:55
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I'm so happy I read this comic. The ending was beautiful and funny. Thanks Gob!
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I never tried this comic over the years it was running for some reason, but when I saw in the other webcoms thread that it was over I gave it a shot... and binged it the entire way through in two sittings. Really glad that I gave it a chance, because it was very good and honestly I feel more strongly about it than some of the comics that I've been following for years. Thanks for making this strange, funny, sometimes sad and sometimes uplifting thing, Gob.
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Oh yeah I almost forgot, grats gob. You sure made that thing. And it was good.
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god drat this was a good comic that made me feel a lot of things, thanks gob I spent most of last night reading through the whole thing again and this comic makes the ending a hell of a lot more melancholy than it already was. It's not what I want. It's not what I want.
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dmboogie posted:god drat this was a good comic that made me feel a lot of things, thanks gob Whoa.
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dmboogie posted:god drat this was a good comic that made me feel a lot of things, thanks gob drat, good catch.
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dmboogie posted:god drat this was a good comic that made me feel a lot of things, thanks gob It's not what she wanted... He sacrificed himself and she knew he would.
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dmboogie posted:god drat this was a good comic that made me feel a lot of things, thanks gob drat
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I'm very happy to see that people are finding the little foreshadowy bits I put in there, hehe. Some people are asking what I'll be up to next and I can say this much: 1) Compiling the IT HURTS books 2) Making some IT HURTS artsy craftsy things people can buy (a calendar / prints) 3) Starting a new series written by Josef and drawn by me 4) Maybe continuing old series of mine 5) Making goofy videos I think I'll be starting with getting IH all book'd up. That's what I'm thinking as of right now anyway. We'll see.
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Gobolatula posted:I think I'll be starting with getting IH all book'd up. That's what I'm thinking as of right now anyway. We'll see. The copy doesn't exist yet, but I'm clutching it in my empty sweat-stained hand, fevered. I need it so I can fool friends into buying and reading it, so I can laugh outside their window at 3am as they stare at the ceiling, unblinking.
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Gobolatula posted:I'm very happy to see that people are finding the little foreshadowy bits I put in there, hehe. thanks! sounds cool link your stuff here when it goes online
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Gobolatula posted:3) Starting a new series written by Josef and drawn by me I don't remember if you answered this - was the dialogue all on you or was it more collaborative? It's the best, but I won't mind something different.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:I don't remember if you answered this - was the dialogue all on you or was it more collaborative? It's the best, but I won't mind something different. It wasn't until the middle of the Hell arc that I started actually typing scripts. Josef wrote the script for the last comic himself based on all the ideas we came up with together. He also wrote a few comics himself along the way. One of my favorite was a comic about Peeplops getting high. Josef had a huge part in making IH great. The story was always based on what him and I would chat about in conversations together. I came up with stuff and he'd either give it a yea or nay. He also urged me to be the funniest I could be every single comic. If it didn't make him laugh he'd urge me to rewrite jokes (sometimes over and over again (and with good reason)). I trust Josef because he's a funny dude and an actual knowledgeable writer. In the future I'll be drawing his scripts, but he also gave me license to be my usual visually weird self and jazz up dialogue if I see it necessary. It's gonna be a lot of fun.
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Tell Joseph we love him also. Y'all do great work together.
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Thank you gob. It Hurts has been one of my favourite internet things and I'll miss it terribly. Looking forward to your next project.
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Gobolatula posted:The dialogue in IT HURTS was mostly written by me in the stupidest way ever. I would draw the comic and fully color it, leaving myself empty speech bubbles, then I'd come up with the words at the very end, on the spot. I had the gist of what was gonna be said in my head but it didn't get fully articulated until the end when I typed it into the bubble. See this seems like a bad idea in principle but I think it worked for this comic. It's what gave everything that air of spontaneity. Plus I'd imagine a lot of the random gags in dialog came about because you had more speech bubble to fill and thought "hey, put a joke in there".
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The Cheshire Cat posted:See this seems like a bad idea in principle but I think it worked for this comic. It's what gave everything that air of spontaneity. Plus I'd imagine a lot of the random gags in dialog came about because you had more speech bubble to fill and thought "hey, put a joke in there". On rereading I can see where that exact thing must have happened
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Hi, I've been resisting reading this comic for a while for no good reason other than the initial art style turned me off. I heard it ended and just read the whole thing in two days. Gob, thanks so much for writing such a goddamned good comic.
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Yeah I don't get to say this often about much of anything on the internet, but this stuck with me in a way that hasn't happened in more than a decade, so thank you for bringing me back to the keenspot days and then blowing that out of the water. And, don't take this the wrong way, but I'm really happy It Hurts didn't get ultra popular and widespread. Only because it seems like everything that does now gets drowned in a cesspool of fandom hatred; this felt more like 10, 15 years ago, where there wasn't so many people online, and a work like this can just BE and be enjoyed for what it is.
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Black August posted:Yeah I don't get to say this often about much of anything on the internet, but this stuck with me in a way that hasn't happened in more than a decade, so thank you for bringing me back to the keenspot days and then blowing that out of the water. And, don't take this the wrong way, but I'm really happy It Hurts didn't get ultra popular and widespread. Only because it seems like everything that does now gets drowned in a cesspool of fandom hatred; this felt more like 10, 15 years ago, where there wasn't so many people online, and a work like this can just BE and be enjoyed for what it is. Tangentially, the notion of community on the internet seems almost dead.
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There Bias Two posted:Tangentially, the notion of community on the internet seems almost dead. I think that's probably not true, it's just that internet communities are by definition sort of interior so you don't see the ones you aren't a part of.
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Android Blues posted:I think that's probably not true, it's just that internet communities are by definition sort of interior so you don't see the ones you aren't a part of. While that's true, I think there are very few current platforms that encourage sustained communication with the same group of people, which is essential for getting a community going. This style of forum does, mostly because there aren't a million branches of branches of conversations occuring.
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