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Tacky-rear end Rococco posted:Citation needed. The president of Ukraine disappeared the day after he signed the agreement. I don't know if RT has you thinking that the CIA had little green men in play in Ukraine or what, but one day is not a lot of time to engineer an escalation. Especially because what happened in Ukraine, as you eventually noted, was a revolution, not a coup. The US, as it is wont to do, provided some behind-the-scenes diplomatic support for anti-government protestors, but that is a long, long, long way away from "sponsoring a coup." the strategy was established back in 93 when Cheney created the cordon against not just the former USSR but also Russia itself. That's why they have been breaking promises to expand NATO the moment the ink dried. quote:Robert Gates described the approach in his new memoir, Duty, explaining the view of President George H.W. Bush’s Defense Secretary Dick Cheney: “When the Soviet Union was collapsing in late 1991, Dick wanted to see the dismantlement not only of the Soviet Union and the Russian empire but of Russia itself, so it could never again be a threat to the rest of the world.” sponsored or not they got what they wanted after spending 5 billion to influence the outcome through a state department neocon slush fund (National Endowment for Democracy) providing behind the scenes diplomatic support for protestors is another way of saying "coddling right sector neonazi militias in occupying government offices to jettison a deal on early elections and overthrow an internationally recognized democratically elected president." https://www.thenation.com/article/the-ukrainian-far-right-and-the-danger-it-poses/ http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/04/14/ukraine-the-truth/ its like you are some babe in the woods who thinks the US doesn't sponsor coups around the world. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Euromaidan protesters were not well served by a very corrupt elite they tried to boo offstage and who are quite happy to lose the Russian-ethnic part of the country because it guarantees their parliamentary future (that and banning Yanukovich's MPs from seeking office legitimately ever again), also Victor Yanukovich is bad. Hope that clears up this incredibly not that hard issue once you stop picking a side other than the average Ukrainian. Please take it to SevastoPOL thread, make one if you have to, this is Britlections.
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Bulgogi Hoagie posted:yeah lol i'm sure this dude never knee-jerkingly defended RT from the evil western imperialists wow sounds like a wrongthinker doing the work of our Enemy Thinkers What's next, marxists? Ugh
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jBrereton posted:Euromaidan protesters were not well served by a very corrupt elite they tried to boo offstage and who are quite happy to lose the Russian-ethnic part of the country because it guarantees their parliamentary future (that and banning Yanukovich's MPs from seeking office legitimately ever again), also Victor Yanukovich is bad. Not directed at you, but just in case anyone missed it at the bottom of last page: Captain_Maclaine posted:This is not the thread for being wrong about Ukraine and the maidan protests. This is the thread for being wrong about British electoral politics.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:This is the thread for being wrong about British electoral politics. In that spirit, I predict the Tories will get 331 seats, and if they get fewer than that I shall give £20 to Médecins Sans Frontières.
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CottonWolf posted:In that spirit, I predict the Tories will get 331 seats, and if they get fewer than that I shall give £20 to Médecins Sans Frontières. those guys suck, give it to doctors without borders instead
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this been posted here? courtesy of phiz
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also for the record the british people will never be free until they kill their monarchy
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Darkman Fanpage posted:also for the record the british people will never be free until they kill their monarchy  the only freedom lies in nuclear fire
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id like canada to keep QEII as an eternal monarch, keep the current form of govt but just pretend QEII never dies ever
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gently caress this is so british
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Baloogan posted:id like canada to keep QEII as an eternal monarch, keep the current form of govt but just pretend QEII never dies ever
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Baloogan posted:id like canada to keep QEII as an eternal monarch, keep the current form of govt but just pretend QEII never dies ever holy poo poo i never knew how much of a cuck you actually are. this is just pathetic
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:like kim il-sung yea but QEII rules like, a good chunk of the entire planet and il-sung ruled over a tiny nation
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Terror Sweat posted:holy poo poo i never knew how much of a cuck you actually are. this is just pathetic government is the most wildly successful invention ever made and the proto-monarchy in canada is really stable  i like it
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Baloogan posted:yea but QEII rules like, a good chunk of the entire planet and il-sung ruled over a tiny nation liz lost half the world in her lifetime, sounds weak and wobbly to me
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Aliquid posted:liz lost half the world in her lifetime, sounds weak and wobbly to me
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lol just lol that ya'll still have a monarchy
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Karl Barks posted:lol just lol that ya'll still have a monarchy 
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and she's just this little old lady who drinks tea and eats biscuits all day
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Baloogan posted:government is the most wildly successful invention ever made 
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only thing worse is if he were king
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gently caress, just trumps ruling for centuries
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Aliquid posted:liz lost half the world in her lifetime, sounds weak and wobbly to me Karl Barks posted:and she's just this little old lady who drinks tea and eats biscuits all day the human being QEII is some dumb old woman the living symbol of government QEII is a legal fiction that you can build society around
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just look at the countries based around british rule, vs the rest of em something worked.
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tfw u rule over the largest loss of land by an empire probably
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Baloogan posted:just look at the countries based around british rule, vs the rest of em ur biased
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You're a dumb communist he doesn't realize that the Russian Revolution failed entirely you cuck
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Karl Barks posted:and she's just this little old lady who drinks tea and eats biscuits all day And has many small dogs.
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