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I'd also grab Strife, Heretic and Hexen if you can. They will run on exactly the same source port(s) and only take up about 70mb combined, and you'll appreciate the variety of some new weapons and enemies if you're only ever playing Doom all the time. All are on Steam and pretty cheap, also Steam summer sale starts in about 19 days so you'll probably be able to grab them at least 50% off. This might also be a dumb point, but make sure you're bringing both Ultimate Doom and Doom II and not just the first game! (not sure how much you know about custom maps but most of the cool ones made since 1997 are for Doom II)
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Heavy Metal posted:What are some good humor wads? I've head of a couple terrywads, intentionally bad wads with a trap/prank (not that funny to me), but I'd be intrigued to hear about some comedy wads. The Sky May Be loving owns
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Convex posted:I'd also grab Strife, Heretic and Hexen if you can. They will run on exactly the same source port(s) and only take up about 70mb combined, and you'll appreciate the variety of some new weapons and enemies if you're only ever playing Doom all the time. All are on Steam and pretty cheap, also Steam summer sale starts in about 19 days so you'll probably be able to grab them at least 50% off. Also Plutonia. A very small number of WADs use that instead I think. Load up OBLIGE and the DoomRL stuff too.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:More importantly than the vaping question: what early FPS characters smoke There's literally a Farcry 3 level where you burn fields of  with a flamethrower and get baked in the process 
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Zaphod42 posted:There's literally a Farcry 3 level where you burn fields of I said early, but that level owned Doesn't it randomly start playing Skrillex when you get baked too?
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Zaphod42 posted:There's literally a Farcry 3 level where you burn fields of The saints row 2 level where you do the same thing is way better.
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Jun 3, 2017 21:59
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I said early, but that level owned Yes it does. And its a Skrillex and Damian Marley collab too, for bonus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGpzGu9Yp6Y I can't think of anything from early FPS.
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Convex posted:I'd also grab Strife, Heretic and Hexen if you can. They will run on exactly the same source port(s) and only take up about 70mb combined, and you'll appreciate the variety of some new weapons and enemies if you're only ever playing Doom all the time. All are on Steam and pretty cheap, also Steam summer sale starts in about 19 days so you'll probably be able to grab them at least 50% off. You can get the classic Doom series on either Steam or GOG.com, depending on personal preference and/or location. (By location I mean that the full package with Ult. Doom + Doom II + Final Doom + Master Levels is $15 on Steam, $16 on GOG for an American; but €25 on Steam, €15 on GOG for a European. Yeah, Steam's regional pricing don't make any sense.) Strife is also available on both services ($10 bucks on both). Heretic and Hexen are currently only available from Steam, and the complete collection (Heretic + Hexen + Deathkings) goes to $10. So we're looking at a total of about $35 for legit copies of all commercial games you can run on GZDoom or Chocolate Doom. Less with sales. Typically GOG sales happen earlier than Steam sales, so they should start this coming week or the next. Then there are some free IWADs you can get; they're listed here. Once you get all that stuff you can be pretty sure you'll have what you need to run any mod you've downloaded.
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Oh yeah and Adventures of Square is also really cool. I was also going to suggest getting Duke 3D as well, but then remembered you can only buy the new Gearbox one these days which is pretty overpriced 
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:More importantly than the vaping question: what early FPS characters smoke I am sure that Corvus and Daedolon smoke "Hobbit pipe-weed." Duke probably enjoys the occasional blunt. I'd like to imagine the pilot from Descent hotboxing the Pyro-GX, but let's be honest, in space it's Plutonium Nyborg or bust.
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Jun 3, 2017 23:26
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Ancient Aliens starts with you hitting a big peyote pipe so there's that
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The berserk pack probably has PCP in it
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I guess the old ones weren't FPSes but the Fallout characters have been partying since 99.
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Here's something a friend reminded me of today, this was some next-level mindblowing 3d graphics back in the day (1992): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYFdgyuv6fU&t=440s Queued to the first FPS bit but there's also driving and flying sections...
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NoneMoreNegative posted:Here's something a friend reminded me of today, this was some next-level mindblowing 3d graphics back in the day (1992): SUPER HOT
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Thanks for the suggestions all. I'm pretty good at loving with zdoom and all that fun stuff. I was more worried about the portability aspect more than anything. I've actually played a ton of mapsets but I figure starting from zero will cover anything I forget besides the big ones but I'll take all suggestions because why not I'll have plenty of time. what I really want is unreal and quake 1/2 but I feel like anything in actual 3D is going to burn through whatever lovely laptop battery I have so I mean
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Jun 4, 2017 01:24
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Casual Encountess posted:
Doom and especially Doom source ports is going to burn through battery life just as fast as Quake 1 and maybe Quake 2. And some of the more recent GZDoom required stuff probably won't run on slow laptops at all.
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Casual Encountess posted:I was more worried about the portability aspect more than anything. If you start up GZDoom once then rename the configuration file to gzdoom_portable.ini, it will use that file from then on instead of looking for a file with the logged in user's account name. Between that and ZDL I've had no issues running from a flash drive to screw around at work.
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Casual Encountess posted:what I really want is unreal and quake 1/2 but I feel like anything in actual 3D is going to burn through whatever lovely laptop battery I have so I mean If anything, a game that was fully suited for 3D acceleration from the beginning could be more hardware-efficient. A GPU should generally use less power than a software renderer on CPU, to render the same geometry. If you want to conserve battery, make sure to set the renderer to limit framerate to something reasonable.
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Casual Encountess posted:what I really want is unreal and quake 1/2 but I feel like anything in actual 3D is going to burn through whatever lovely laptop battery I have so I mean If you are looking for efficient Doom ports, GZDoom isn't a good place to start due to its 64bit floating precision physics, heavily feature branching code and two independent VMs. You actually want to look at the vanilla compatible ports, Chocolate Doom, PRBoom+ and Eternity. PRBoom+ especially is optimized well enough to run even Nuts.wad without a hitch (Chocolate Doom isn't a limit removing port, so only good for strict vanilla mapsets). Turn off interpolation/uncapped frame-rate and those ports will cost almost nothing to run.
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Modern Quake should already be using 3d acceleration right? I guess it depends which sourceport you're using if any, but I figure most everything is these days. Like you said Nielsm software rendering just uses more, the only reason to use software would be if you had no graphics card and even lovely laptops still have intel graphics.
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Zaphod42 posted:Modern Quake should already be using 3d acceleration right? There's still a few ports making a software rendering version I think, but anything that matters uses hardware 3D. For integrated graphics chipsets, it may be worth trying DirectQ (download) instead of an OpenGL-based port.
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gently caress am I going to be playing unreal tournament in a grass hut
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What the hell, even Africa has electricity in any city believe it or not. Where exactly you'll be staying? In a Pygmy village? That being said, software-mode GZDoom will probably get you covered.
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He said Peace Corp, so I'd imagine he isn't going to be in a metro area like Nairobi or the like. One of my good friends just got back from outside of Juba, S. Sudan and he said they had rolling black outs in the city. Luckily he was on a UN mission so the military contingent didn't have the same issue.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I said early, but that level owned https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGpzGu9Yp6Y His only good song. Any Hell on Earth scenario wads to the grand scale of Hellbound? That one and Hadephobia were the only ones that felt like I was going on this hellish journey.
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nielsm posted:There's still a few ports making a software rendering version I think, but anything that matters uses hardware 3D. For integrated graphics chipsets, it may be worth trying DirectQ (download) instead of an OpenGL-based port. Also the Direct3D variant of the Mark V engine. The DirectQ guy helped work on that. Not sure whether it will actually run better than DirectQ on your hardware, but Mark V will be more likely to be compatible with all custom maps (since DIrectQ hasn't been maintained for quite a while now) and Mark V doesn't have some of DirectQ's long-standing bugs. Quakespasm is also worth a try. It's OpenGL rather than Direct3D but I think is known to be pretty efficient on less-beefy GPUs, as long as their OpenGL driver isn't complete crap.
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Negrostrike posted:What the hell, even Africa has electricity in any city believe it or not. Where exactly you'll be staying? In a Pygmy village? Yeah I'm going to Guinea. I don't get my site until I get there but it's highly likely I'm reliant on the solar rig I'm bringing rather than the rolling blackouts in the definitely super rural place I'm going to be in.
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGpzGu9Yp6Y Going Down has a really unique take on the journey into hell. It's not on an epic size like Hellbound though.
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I'm tweaking the video sliders in the latest GZDoom on a different monitor than I usually use, and I hate it how every time I hit Esc to pull the menu back up, the whole screen gets covered in an amber filter so I can't actually see how my video adjustments are affecting the scene until I leave the menu. It makes this process much more tedious. Is there any way remove the filter that comes up in the GZDoom menus?
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Copper Vein posted:I'm tweaking the video sliders in the latest GZDoom on a different monitor than I usually use, and I hate it how every time I hit Esc to pull the menu back up, the whole screen gets covered in an amber filter so I can't actually see how my video adjustments are affecting the scene until I leave the menu. It makes this process much more tedious. It's the "dim". You can disable it by setting dimamount to 0 in the console; or through the "menu dim" slider in display options. The default value is -1; amusingly if you change, you can't set it back to -1 in the menu.
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Cat Mattress posted:It's the "dim". You can disable it by setting dimamount to 0 in the console; or through the "menu dim" slider in display options. The default value is -1; amusingly if you change, you can't set it back to -1 in the menu. Thank you so much. That is really going to make things easier for me. I also noticed that there is no longer a Stereo\Surround slector in the audio options. I assume it is pulling from the windows speaker settings now? Maybe there is a way to override with console commands, unless I'm wrong about this? I need to get over to the wiki and do some studying. So that I can play Doom right.
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NoneMoreNegative posted:Here's something a friend reminded me of today, this was some next-level mindblowing 3d graphics back in the day (1992):
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Linguica posted:God, I had this on DOS back in 1994 or whenever and spend a lot of time with it. When you're a little kid and you don't have that many games to choose from you will willingly play some total garbage.  I had some shovelware CD full of demos. I remember spending a lot of time with that one, Jetfighter 2 (which you couldn't do poo poo in until you successfully landed on a carrier, which was impossible for a kid), and Links 386 Pro. You know a kid is starved for variety when they voluntarily play a golf sim demo.
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Copper Vein posted:I also noticed that there is no longer a Stereo\Surround slector in the audio options. I assume it is pulling from the windows speaker settings now? Maybe there is a way to override with console commands, unless I'm wrong about this? Probably related to dumping FMOD (for good reasons) and moving to OpenAL, after a transition period where both OpenAL and FMOD Ex were available. I haven't found anything about stereo/surround settings in OpenAL for GZDoom.
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When I was really young we went to a Game store and my Dad let me pick a shareware disk to buy, but only one. All the games only had the title and a short description on the floppy sticker, so no clues as to what was good or not. I briefly looked at Wolfenstein 3D and determined it was probably a game with werewolves fighting Frankenstein and therefore garbage. Instead I chose an incredibly lovely Dungeon Master rip-off (forgotten what it was called now) which I played for about 5 minutes and then never touched again. Months later a friend told me about this awesome game where you rip Nazis to bits with a chaingun that I could have been playing for months already  fortunately my brother brought a copy back from Uni months later and much fun was had
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I mail ordered shovelware floppies of shareware games, and I wanted to get Wolfenstein 3D but they didn't offer it. They did offer a game that they described as a Wolfenstein 3D clone, so that sounded awesome! I figured a clone was basically just a sleazy bootleg thing, so I was gonna get Wolfenstein! Yeah! Turned out it wasn't a sleazy bootleg of Actually Wolfenstein 3D, instead the game was Ken's Labyrinth.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5_pNdanRHA Also I didn't have a soundcard back then. Watching that video is actually weird cause there's all this music and digitized voices that I have no recollection of. Cat Mattress fucked around with this message at 22:52 on Jun 4, 2017 |
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Convex posted:I briefly looked at Wolfenstein 3D and determined it was probably a game with werewolves fighting Frankenstein and therefore garbage. Instead I chose an incredibly lovely Dungeon Master rip-off (forgotten what it was called now) which I played for about 5 minutes and then never touched again. Wait, what? That's an excellent pitch.
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I also thought that's what Wolfenstein was until I looked at the back of the box as a kid and became immediately bored.
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How the gently caress you gonna Ken's Labyrinth??
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