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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Gorn Myson posted:Both of my brothers were on the bridge and witnessed a large part of what happened. They're both okay and well away from the area, but what the gently caress. Had they been closer when these guys struck, I'd have lost both of them. Bloody hell, glad they're safe but you've got some weird luck.
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OwlFancier posted:Is the ceiling actually that low? Yes
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Thanks Ants posted:That's The Sheaf I think. Nice pub. Skinty McEdger posted:It is. And it is. kecske posted:this is katzenjammers, a bier keller type pub just off borough market We're getting conflicting reports here, I'll have to consult the CAMRA Good Pub Guide and check the floor plans.
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hakimashou posted:Looks like the terrorists have attacked the UK again, this time London You don't give a poo poo about anyone. You deceitful little weasel.
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namesake posted:We're getting conflicting reports here, I'll have to consult the CAMRA Good Pub Guide and check the floor plans. Upon closer inspection it doesn't have the sofa's so I think keckse is right.
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Jun 3, 2017 23:36
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Oh ffs. Not again. I hope Corbs pushes ahead with may being unable to protect the country, after cutting the filth, reducing the military to sub Dads Army levels, and decimating the NHS. Wrong and stable, indeed. In other news, was Ober in Liverpool at the EDL vs Anti Fash dust up?
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BBC news posted:'Run as fast as you can' - police advice to public I'm sure it's good advice, but it's a sad commentary on how impossible it is to control these situations.
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Skinty McEdger posted:Upon closer inspection it doesn't have the sofa's so I think keckse is right. They're both in the basement of the same building so the ceilings are identical. I agree with it not being The Sheaf.
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Jun 3, 2017 23:38
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I swear to god if we get the whole 'postponing campaigning out of respect' thing this close to an election I will poo poo a brick
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ThomasPaine posted:I swear to god if we get the whole 'postponing campaigning out of respect' thing this close to an election I will poo poo a brick
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Trickjaw posted:Oh ffs. Not again. I hope Corbs pushes ahead with may being unable to protect the country, after cutting the filth, reducing the military to sub Dads Army levels, and decimating the NHS. Wrong and stable, indeed. The fash sure love going to Liverpool only to turn up in pitiful numbers & get absolutely humiliated. Don't know what it is that attracts them there so often when it's clear the city doesn't want anything to do with them.
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ThomasPaine posted:I swear to god if we get the whole 'postponing campaigning out of respect' thing this close to an election I will poo poo a brick loving guarantee May will push for it. Any opportunity to not take part in the election she called.
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those ISIS monsters are probably trying to influence the election, what purpose would this have? Do they prefer Theresa may?
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There's not going to be much more coming out about this incident until the early hours of the morning, so I suppose we may as well discuss the normal stuff. "Shy voter" is synonymous with "ashamed that they're actual selfish voter", basically. They're shy because they don't want to admit that actually, they want to keep their money and not pay as much tax, someone else should really be paying instead. They don't really want to have to have their lives interrupted by strikes, they should be able to get to work on time. They're a bit afraid of all the muslims and would like to see less of them around, even though you shouldn't say that because people will think you're a racist. It's not about being cool or credible, it's about voting for something that you know is probably going to hurt people, but helps you, and they don't want to admit that they are that person deep down. No one voting for Corbyn is reluctant to admit they voted for him. So I don't think you can really have "shy Corbynites" just by nature.
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Al-Saqr posted:those ISIS monsters are probably trying to influence the election, what purpose would this have? Do they prefer Theresa may? Probably. A proper social safety net makes radicalizing people much harder.
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Hoops posted:There's not going to be much more coming out about this incident until the early hours of the morning, so I suppose we may as well discuss the normal stuff. Jesus gently caress, you got me dude... http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/stress-anxiety-depression/Pages/mental-health-helplines.aspx
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Jun 3, 2017 23:46
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Hoops posted:There's not going to be much more coming out about this incident until the early hours of the morning, so I suppose we may as well discuss the normal stuff. Broadly I agree but I suppose if you were looking for rays of hope maybe some people feel embarrassed about voting for a former member of the IRA as PM. Obviously I'm being silly & hyperbolic, but that would probably be the issue if anything was going to make "shy Corbynites" a thing. But I don't think it is a thing. endlessmonotony posted:Probably. A proper social safety net makes radicalizing people much harder. On top of that, you'd imagine May will be a lot happier to continue a foreign policy in the Middle East which has done a lot to destabilise the issue, which has also contributed to the radicalisation of some people. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Jun 3, 2017 |
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@metpoliceuk posted:Officers have then responded to reports of stabbings in #BoroughMarket. Armed officers responded and shots have been fired. 2/3 quote:Officers are now responding to an incident in the #Vauxhall area. 3/3
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Jun 3, 2017 23:47
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Al-Saqr posted:those ISIS monsters are probably trying to influence the election, what purpose would this have? Do they prefer Theresa may? Considering that a lot of the attackers appear to be operating entirely independently and just claim allegiance to ISIS I don't really know if it's ISIS's command structure trying to influence the election as much as the election may be making a bunch of pre-existing radicals crawl out of the woodwork.
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Jun 3, 2017 23:47
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Jun 3, 2017 23:48
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loving Vauxhall too? That's a bit far to be part of the same incident, surely?
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Jun 3, 2017 23:49
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It's all just nihilstic killing. With the IRA bombings, the demand was for a fully independent Ireland, and there was an understandable if completely unjustifable goal. What exactly is the point of killing for the ISIS perspective? How do you even stop purely random, nonsensical violence? 3 incidents now apparently.
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Jun 3, 2017 23:49
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goddamnedtwisto posted:loving Vauxhall too? That's a bit far to be part of the same incident, surely? https://twitter.com/metpoliceuk/status/871135916047388672 loving hell
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Jun 3, 2017 23:50
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Eyewitness reporting three men with knives got out of the van and proceeded to attack people at random. If it's true, that's three incidents with one involving at least three people. Seems well organised. And ongoing.
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Jun 3, 2017 23:51
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Jun 3, 2017 23:51
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Encouraging that the police are so prepared for the zombie apocalypse, honestly.
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Al-Saqr posted:those ISIS monsters are probably trying to influence the election, what purpose would this have? Do they prefer Theresa may? ISIS believes in an actual apocalypse, and their primary tactic outside the Middle East is for just random losers to go crazy and do some random crime, trying to read too much into their tactics seems kinda fruitless
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Seeing constant live videos on TV from different spots around the area of riot police literally chasing people away screaming 'please leave the area' is really weird to watch compared to how normally it's a collection of videos from social media after the fact. 2017 is strange. (Someone getting nicked just got picked up by the sky cameraman) edit: Footage of people being evacuated (Pyjamas etc) + police posting hostage advice on social media...Huh. blunt fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Jun 3, 2017 |
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chernobyl kinsman posted:just some drunk wanker probably gently caress off
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That previous polls were wrong due to "shy Tories" was the idea proffered in the immediate wake of the last election, but the subsequent inquiry into polling methodology found that it wasn't a real factor. The problem was just that the polls were poo poo. The report said this about it specifically: quote:We found weak evidence that there may have been a very modest late swing to the Conservatives between the final polls and Election Day, although this can have contributed – at most – around one percentage point to the mean absolute error on the Conservative lead. The widely held view that the polling miss was due to deliberate misreporting - ‘shy Tories’ telling pollsters they intended to vote for other parties - is difficult to reconcile with the results of the re-contact surveys carried out by the pollsters and with the two random surveys undertaken after the election. We reject deliberate misreporting as a contributory factor in the polling miss.
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chernobyl kinsman posted:just some drunk wanker probably Is that your excuse for acting the oval office? Innerguard posted:Police now saying more than one fatality. Where are you seeing this?
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blunt posted:Seeing constant live videos on TV from different spots around the area of riot police literally chasing people away screaming 'please leave the area' is really weird to watch compared to how normally it's a collection of videos from social media after the fact. 2017 is strange. I am kind of interested why there was apparently a Sky News cameraman with an OB-capable setup on the scene apparently immediately after the event, and he's moved from just outside London bridge station down to St George's without actually seeing anything.
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spud posted:Jesus gently caress, you got me dude...
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Al-Saqr posted:those ISIS monsters are probably trying to influence the election, what purpose would this have? Do they prefer Theresa may? ISIS's stated goal is to force an apocalyptic showdown with the west in, IIRC, Raqqah, so, yes. Corbyn would be trying to de-escalate things, they want the rapture. Hoops posted:There's not going to be much more coming out about this incident until the early hours of the morning, so I suppose we may as well discuss the normal stuff. I dunno, I've met them so far. There are people who'd really invested themselves in the idea that Corbyn's hopeless and inept and could only deliver multiple crushing defeats to Labour and nothing can ever improve until he goes, and so on, and these people are reluctant to say he actually seems to be doing well. forkboy84 posted:Broadly I agree but I suppose if you were looking for rays of hope maybe some people feel embarrassed about voting for a former member of the IRA as PM. Obviously I'm being silly & hyperbolic, but that would probably be the issue if anything was going to make "shy Corbynites" a thing. But I don't think it is a thing. I'm not hugely convinced by it, but, who knows. I've met people embarrassed to say they're voting Corbyn, after all.
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spud posted:All that matters is free stuff You're a loving idiot.
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forkboy84 posted:Is that your excuse for acting the oval office? BBC reporting it
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