Policies right now: paragon1 posted:Once again, I propose The Army Expansion Act, that we construct barracks and regimental camps in many provinces so as to increase the troops available to the army. paragon1, RZApublican, TildeATH, Yvonmukluk, everydayfalls, Technowolf. Archaeology Hat posted:I propose a motion to Build Lots of Castles - stating that the Sultan be given a mandate to build as many forts and castles as it takes to properly secure the territories of Al Andalus against invaders. Archaeology Hat.  Ralepozozaxe posted:I propose that we Centralize the Government, as in move our capital to the center of Iberia, Toledo. We cant lead from the bottom forever from the easily raid-able and recently burnt down current capital. Ralepozozaxe.  GunnerJ posted:Proposing the Naval Reconstitution Act: Bring our navy back up to its former strength as soon as possible, then expand it as feasible until it can beat France's navy. GunnerJ, Talas.  Soup du Jour posted:Bringing back my proposal from last time, mandating at least one Weapons Manufactory built, with more as money permits. This should be a period of consolidation, and increasing our cash flow and showing off our infrastructure is an excellent way to do so. Plus, it gets us ahead of the game for manufactories. Soup du Jour. --- Proposed coalitions: none.
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Proposing the Almoravid Aggression Act: As soon as our manpower recovers, declare war on Morocco with the aim of taking the Caribbean and, if the war score allows, the provinces on the strait of Gibraltar, starting with Tangiers and Ceuta. The Sultan is free to choose the time and define what is a satifsying amount of manpower
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Jun 3, 2017 20:42
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Frionnel posted:
I fully support this.
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Jun 3, 2017 21:07
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Frionnel posted:
Supporting
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Jun 3, 2017 21:12
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Ralepozozaxe posted:
I, Slaan Al-Andalusi, support this measure. Cadiz has long been our capital, but it has outlived its relevance. We must now govern as God wills, and the best way to govern well is to govern centrally and in peace.
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Jun 3, 2017 21:24
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GunnerJ posted:
I support this. A wise man can hear profit in the wind, and our sails will be full of that same wind.
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Jun 3, 2017 22:29
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I, Qaptin Al-Blivious, propose that we move the capital to Tulaytullah, and take steps to develop it further as befitting its status as the City of Sultans! We cannot govern from a position of weakness, and while Cadiz will always be in our hearts as the birthplace of the Jizrunids, may Allah bless them, Tulaytullah is the city befitting the times.
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Jun 3, 2017 22:37
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I, Sheikha Rabab bint Rabab al-Majnun, propose the Western Muslim Brotherhood Act: Let us try to mend relations with the Almorovids as much as possible. Our mighty victories have cost us huge amounts of money (oh, and people I guess), and the last thing we need is another expensive war. If we must go to war, it should be with the vulnerable Christians, or even with this so-called caliphate in the East that dares to demand our allegiance. We have centuries of friendship with Morocco--we should not throw that away after one king made a foolish decision. In addition to my faction members, I encourage other factions, especially the Ulema, to support this act in a coalition vote.
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Jun 3, 2017 22:59
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GunnerJ posted:
Supporting this, especially if it gives up new trade ships.
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Jun 3, 2017 23:20
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Frionnel posted:
What are you thiiiiinking? We don't even have Iberia subjugated. We have no navy to prevent them from screwing us over colonially. Why do we have this massive hard-on to self-harm by invading Morocco all the sudden?
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Jun 3, 2017 23:35
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Viola the Mad posted:
I kinda like the thought here but I feel like the die is cast. eta: Maybe the Ulema could just pick this one up.
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Jun 3, 2017 23:52
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The Almoravids will pay their due but I actually agree that we're forgetting our priorities. Draft legislation is inbound to rectify this!
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Jun 3, 2017 23:52
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TildeATH posted:What are you thiiiiinking? We don't even have Iberia subjugated. We have no navy to prevent them from screwing us over colonially. Why do we have this massive hard-on to self-harm by invading Morocco all the sudden? Some people just hate winning.
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Jun 3, 2017 23:53
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TildeATH posted:What are you thiiiiinking? We don't even have Iberia subjugated. We have no navy to prevent them from screwing us over colonially. Why do we have this massive hard-on to self-harm by invading Morocco all the sudden? Our navy is being rebuilt, the act gives power to the sultan to wait until then. At some point we have to start dealing with the powers around us or we're resigned to be small.
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Jun 4, 2017 00:04
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e: support withdrawn
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Jun 4, 2017 00:18
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I sincerely hope the Celts rebuild fast enough to jam the knife home now that we've beaten the everloving poo poo out of the French.
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Jun 4, 2017 00:18
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Soup du Jour posted:
I support this.
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Jun 4, 2017 00:23
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Frionnel posted:Our navy is being rebuilt, the act gives power to the sultan to wait until then. At some point we have to start dealing with the powers around us or we're resigned to be small. We hold most of Iberia and much of the Caribbean, you shortsighted imbecile! We will be resigned to be small when petty fools like you call for endless wars for the sake of your mad bloodlust, rather than taking advantage of peace to make ready. Do not abdicate your responsibilty by claiming you defer to the Sultan. You push for war upon our fellow Muslims - in the New World, no less - when we are surrounded by enemies! Our very capital was burned, and yet you still clamour for blood...
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Jun 4, 2017 00:24
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Yvonmukluk posted:We hold most of Iberia and much of the Caribbean, you shortsighted imbecile! We will be resigned to be small when petty fools like you call for endless wars for the sake of your mad bloodlust, rather than taking advantage of peace to make ready. Do not abdicate your responsibilty by claiming you defer to the Sultan. You push for war upon our fellow Muslims - in the New World, no less - when we are surrounded by enemies! Our very capital was burned, and yet you still clamour for blood... What did "fellow muslims" mean to Morocco when they allied with nothing short of an existential threat to Al-Andalus? Your sentiments are not shared you fool and the naivete of it will doom us all!
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Jun 4, 2017 00:37
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It's not really worth getting worked up over war with Morocco or whatever as long as we keep plugging away at New World domination. Worse comes to worse we can pull a Brazil for a while.
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Jun 4, 2017 00:40
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GunnerJ posted:It's not really worth getting worked up over war with Morocco or whatever as long as we keep plugging away at New World domination. Worse comes to worse we can pull a Brazil for a while. But the borders The borders! They have part of the Carribean that is rightfully ours!
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Jun 4, 2017 00:56
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I propose that we renew the old alliance with Morocco. Let's not allow petty disputes to blind our good judgment. We stand the risk of becoming isolated from the rest of the Muslim world thanks to the so-called Caliph in Armenia, an alliance with Morocco will be good insurance against that.
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Jun 4, 2017 00:56
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I should note that it was our sultan who gave the middle minaret to the Armenians, even as they take back the holy land.
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Jun 4, 2017 01:05
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Viola the Mad posted:
I give cross-bench support from the Ulema for this proposal.
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Jun 4, 2017 01:19
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Ralepozozaxe posted:I should note that it was our sultan who gave the middle minaret to the Armenians, even as they take back the holy land. I mean, it was that our basically become a vassal looked like.
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Jun 4, 2017 01:24
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Proposing The Coming Storm Act: Mandating that we spend the time we need to in order to recoup our military force(Land & Naval) and manpower up to pre-war levels, and prepare for the inevitable powder keg that is Europe to Ignite. When the conflict breaks out we should declare war on France in an endeavor to further Cripple France's ability to war with Al-Andalus. Reasoning: - We Beat France once but I highly doubt that we'll be able to do it again if they get better allies (Like the Almoravids) - We want to avoid any Military adventures until it can do the most good for the Sultanate - France Is going to Start Colonizing eventually, the fewer resources they have at home means the less they have to do so. - We probably won't get a better opportunity to kick France in the Teeth - I'm pretty sure the King of France said something rude about your mother edit: Also as an Aside What the hell was the Al-Andalus Navy doing up in the Channel? Mr_Autoshades fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Jun 4, 2017 |
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Jun 4, 2017 01:39
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Captain Oblivious posted:What did "fellow muslims" mean to Morocco when they allied with nothing short of an existential threat to Al-Andalus? Your sentiments are not shared you fool and the naivete of it will doom us all! Apparently a lot since they offered to renew the alliance, but fools have decided that one existential threat isn't enough. No, we need two!
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Jun 4, 2017 01:44
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Mr_Autoshades posted:edit: Also as an Aside What the hell was the Al-Andalus Navy doing up in the Channel? I would assume probably trying to blockade coastal forts.
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Jun 4, 2017 01:46
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I propose the Crown Lands Act, with this act, all territory governed by the Nobility, Merchants, and the Church shall be evaluated and those that would help His Majesty in this time of internal strife shall be taken from those estates. Basically bring down land controlled by the estates to the minimum cap.
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Jun 4, 2017 02:00
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GunnerJ posted:
I support this proposal. After all, how our we to conduct trade without ships and secure routes?
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Jun 4, 2017 02:06
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Mr_Autoshades posted:
I back this proposal. We want war, but we want war to be as much in our favour as possible, and if we rush in before we've fully recovered, it'll be disaster. Play it safe, play it smart.
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Jun 4, 2017 02:12
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Mr_Autoshades posted:
I, Lutfi al-Uthman of the New Taifas, joyously endorse this proposal! It is good to see some common sense amongst my Taifa brethren for once.
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Jun 4, 2017 02:38
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So, we either invade Morocco or France this session. Though i obviously prefer mine, i'm fine with either proposal winning.
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Jun 4, 2017 02:46
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Whatever we do, can we please expand the army? I just want more soldiers for our Sultan. 
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Jun 4, 2017 02:48
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Your act is winning at the moment, and i wish to see it passed. If we risk having two war motions winning, then i'll remove mine.
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Jun 4, 2017 02:49
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I propose a continued Coalition between the Ulama and the Loyalists in order to support the Rebel Suppression Act. This coalition is also open to the other factions should they wish it, because all of us were wronged, all of us were egregiously harmed in the Sacking of Qadis and the despoilment of our own chamber! My fellow Majils, most pious Mullahs and Imams, most diligent supporters of the noble Jizrunid line, This is what happens when we let the Dhimmi keep their misguided ways unchecked. We must bring them into the light of Islam, or the foul curse of Seperatism will undo all that we have accomplished in Allah's name, setting back our military progress and pillaging the lifeblood of trade in our capital. Never again! Never again can we allow Christian fanatics to put all that we have worked for to the torch, never again can we allow Castilians or Leonese or Portuguese who adhere to one of the splintered branches of the Christian apostasy to ruin our blessed Andalus! I propose this Coalition act because the work we do is vital. To prevent rebellion, we must bring in our fellow Andalusi as true Brothers, not mere Dhimmi, but united in submission to Allah and obedience to our rightful Sultan. We are precluded from doing this on our own. The Rebel Suppression Act: Any Christian region that has rebelled against the Sultan must be slated for Conversion as a priority. In addition, we must seek to improve relations with our Muslim neighbours and overseas brethren so that we are free to avenge our naval losses against France and be ready to sack Paris again if they try anything. The path to victory can only be seen in the light of Islam. Forgetting that cost us the heart of Qadis. There will be yet more rebellions until we fully convert the Dhimmi into true and loyal Andalusi, but it is work that we must seek to accomplish. Dereliction of this duty leads us to desolation.
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Jun 4, 2017 03:01
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While I am definitely in favour of the Rebel Suppression Act, I feel it is more urgent that we stop the madmen in the Taifas from invading the Almoravids.
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Jun 4, 2017 03:10
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paragon1 posted:lol I support this.
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Jun 4, 2017 03:11
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Mr_Autoshades posted:
Supporting this, as we need to be ready to make the final push when the time comes.
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Jun 4, 2017 03:13
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The Lone Badger posted:While I am definitely in favour of the Rebel Suppression Act, I feel it is more urgent that we stop the madmen in the Taifas from invading the Almoravids. Seeking to improve relations covers that: The imperative leads away from impulsive war with those with whom we share our faith. We have not claimed all of Al-Andalus from the Christians, nor our rightful island holdings in the Mediterranean.
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