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mcmagic posted:Random cards off the top of the deck deciding who wins games is not fun gameplay WOTC. Stop making that a thing. Something something consistency is bad
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mcmagic posted:Though without Marvel their new Bolas would probably never see any play so maybe that is why they want to keep it... If they wanted their Bolas to be played maybe they should've made it worth 7 and 3 colours???
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Jun 4, 2017 16:55
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Bolas is fine. He is really powerful, but at 7 mana and having 3 colors he isn't nearly broken. Maybe Grixis will get some good tools and he can be played as a 1 of in control. Grixis control already has the privilege of main deck scarab feast for control mirrors and zombies. Grixis also gets transgressess out of the board to rip other control decks to shreds.
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Jun 4, 2017 17:03
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Go control go god this match is great GoutPatrol fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Jun 4, 2017 |
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Jun 4, 2017 17:43
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Handshake Drugs posted:It was the modern list you posted a little while ago, actually. I just wanted to mess with you. Also, I have no idea who you are IRL. i play skred all the time at modern nights
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Jun 4, 2017 17:44
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GoutPatrol posted:Go control go gently caress me what a timely transgress the mind
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Jun 4, 2017 17:56
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:gently caress me what a timely transgress the mind Random cards off the top of the deck deciding who wins games is not fun gameplay WOTC. Stop making that a thing.
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Jun 4, 2017 18:09
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YggdrasilTM posted:Random cards off the top of the deck deciding who wins games is not fun gameplay WOTC. Stop making that a thing. I agree. Reprint Brainstorm so we'll know what we're drawing.
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Jun 4, 2017 18:14
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Hey yall, could be worse, one LGS near me runs $15 drafts Monday and Friday, prize support is 1.5 packs per player, store credit isn't available, and up until about 4 months ago, when a judge came in and reported them, they would regularly run weird awkward pods for uneven turnouts. The store judge almost always drafts, but often is off playing battle tech or Pathfinder with other customers instead of doing pairings for the next round. I once played in an 11 person draft during Theros.
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Jun 4, 2017 18:23
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mcmagic posted:Random cards off the top of the deck deciding who wins games is not fun gameplay WOTC. Stop making that a thing. Technically, plenty of games are decided by random cards off the top of the deck. Marvel just makes it more obvious. 
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Jun 4, 2017 18:28
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suicidesteve posted:I agree. Reprint Brainstorm so we'll know what we're drawing. e: i can't be expected to just KNOW I have a show and tell on top, even though there always is one
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Jun 4, 2017 18:33
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suicidesteve posted:I agree. Reprint Brainstorm so we'll know what we're drawing. This or Preordain
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Jun 4, 2017 18:53
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suicidesteve posted:I agree. Reprint Brainstorm so we'll know what we're drawing. Brainstorm without fetches might not even be played in standard...
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TheTofuShop posted:I once played in an 11 person draft during Theros. To be fair, having 11 people who want to draft is pretty awkward. Splitting into 5 and 6 is bad because 5 person drafts are not great, and leaving it at 11 is bad because 11 person drafts are not great. The rest of that stuff is pretty unreasonable, though.
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Jun 4, 2017 18:56
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mcmagic posted:Brainstorm without fetches might not even be played in standard... why do you do those loving ellipses after every god drat post you make
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Jun 4, 2017 19:08
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:why do you do those loving ellipses after every god drat post you make He fought Black Potus for his right to do so and we must respect it
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Jun 4, 2017 19:10
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mcmagic posted:Brainstorm without fetches might not even be played in standard... It's bad without shuffle effects. Preordain is too good in almost any environment to the point where the white aggro decks were splashing blue for it in standard. I'd like to see slight of hand or serum visions in standard again. Anticipate is garbage and I hate it.
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Jun 4, 2017 19:10
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TheKingofSprings posted:He fought Black Potus for his right to do so and we must respect it it is written
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:why do you do those loving ellipses after every god drat post you make It's his version of playing mismatching sets and random white borders.
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Jun 4, 2017 19:15
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mcmagic posted:Brainstorm without fetches might not even be played in standard... Putting Ulamog or whatever on top of your deck for Marvel. Traverse and Attune are pretty good shufflers. Evolving Wilds is in the format. Marketing New Brain posted:I'd like to see... serum visions in standard again. And this is how we know your opinion should be ignored. I don't want to live in a world where Serum Visions is a playable card. Reprint Opt.
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Jun 4, 2017 19:15
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Marketing New Brain posted:It's bad without shuffle effects. Preordain is too good in almost any environment to the point where the white aggro decks were splashing blue for it in standard. I'd like to see slight of hand or serum visions in standard again. Anticipate is garbage and I hate it. Serum Visions is hot garbage and so is Sleight. Preordain is fine.
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Jun 4, 2017 19:18
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Angry Grimace posted:I've been playing this deck to good results: Has there been any articles written about this? Do you know the justification for Ruinous Path over Never//Return?
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Jun 4, 2017 19:27
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Just a reminder to everyone; you don't actually have to activate your Liliana of the Veil. My opponent decided to discard such hits as Scavenging Ooze, Collective Brutality, Olivia Voldaren, a pile of lands while stuck on 3. All while I was activating Moorland Haunt every turn. I actually stopped trying to kill the Liliana (just leaving her at 1), because they wouldn't stop activating her and it was benefitting me so much more than them. Also, I've been running Moorland Haunt over Gavony Township in my Bant Spirits deck, it seems like a huge upgrade to me so far. There's been multiple games where it single handedly won me the game, while I never once activated township. I know there's at least one other person here who's been playing the deck, any thoughts? ShadeofBlue fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Jun 4, 2017 |
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Jun 4, 2017 19:27
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TheKingofSprings posted:Serum Visions is hot garbage and so is Sleight. Having cards like that playable in standard and banned in Modern seems awkward, and the whole point is giving decks the ability to have a T1 play so you can keep one land one blue source hands, kind of like Atune in green, but I do think it just adds a kind of consistency that other decks can't achieve. I could maybe see it balanced in a world where read the bones was playable again, I miss that card.
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Jun 4, 2017 19:36
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TheKingofSprings posted:He fought Black Potus for his right to do so and we must respect it Actually mcmagic was not in fact willing to wager his ellipses in that bet
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Jun 4, 2017 19:38
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DangerDongs posted:Bolas is fine. He is really powerful, but at 7 mana and having 3 colors he isn't nearly broken. I dunno. He totally locks you out of the game. He seems pretty strong to me.
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Jun 4, 2017 19:39
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I think Reid Duke just realized he wasn't supposed to mention that there's 800 players at GP Omaha when there is normally 1,200.
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Jun 4, 2017 19:40
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I thought you could get Never that way but not Return after the ruling?
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BizarroAzrael posted:I thought you could get Never that way but not Return after the ruling? You can't get either of them. The CMC of the card is 7 when its not on the stack. (The reason why Cut // Ribbons isn't being played is because its a control deck and you so rarely need reach to win.) Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Jun 4, 2017 |
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Jun 4, 2017 19:44
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Reference for ruling.
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Jun 4, 2017 19:49
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Angry Grimace posted:I dunno. He totally locks you out of the game. He seems pretty strong to me. He is absolutely strong, but properly costed. As for Cut // Ribbons that card is amazing against B/G. Being able to deal with 4/4 Grim Flayers is key or snakes before they get out of hand. It is my favorite tech card in Mardu for B/G, because the reach it provides after a couple of Disintegrations wins games. I'm even running one in my Temur Energy board just as a concession to B/G.
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https://twitter.com/SaffronOlive/status/871437903322390533 https://twitter.com/SaffronOlive/status/871438252024242176 Wizards L.o.l.
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To bring it back to Ban Marvel Chat, the Top 32 of GP Amsterdam was posted. 62.5% of the 9 through 32nd place decks were Aetherworks Marvel (15 of 24). Overall 50% considering the whole Top 32. I doubt WOTC will call attention to anything but the Top 8. http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/gpams17/9th-32nd-decklists-2017-06-04 Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 19:59 on Jun 4, 2017 |
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Baller Ina posted:Actually mcmagic was not in fact willing to wager his ellipses in that bet In that case gently caress off mcmagic
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ShadeofBlue posted:Also, I've been running Moorland Haunt over Gavony Township in my Bant Spirits deck, it seems like a huge upgrade to me so far. There's been multiple games where it single handedly won me the game, while I never once activated township. I know there's at least one other person here who's been playing the deck, any thoughts? I haven't played the deck but gavony seems better unless your meta is super grindy. Pumping all your little fliers to increase your clock seems better than getting a 1/1 every turn.
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uninverted posted:I haven't played the deck but gavony seems better unless your meta is super grindy. Pumping all your little fliers to increase your clock seems better than getting a 1/1 every turn. Gavony is much better against everything except midrange. Moorland Haunt is completely insane against midrange though, where Gavony is like, mediocre to fine against everything else
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mcmagic posted:Random cards off the top of the deck deciding who wins games is not fun gameplay WOTC. Stop making that a thing. Isn't that MtG though? If anything picking one card from the top x cards reduces variance... casting Ulamog for 4 mana & a resource you build around is lame as hell though e: Okay several people on this page just said the same thing, I agree reprint
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Jun 4, 2017 20:39
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My gut feeling is that since actually drawing Ulamog is terrible, Marvel increases the variance of the deck. It's like trying to win by milling the opponent's combo cards away. It's just, the energy shell is solid enough to make the deck perform even if the rolls don't line up. Out of curiousity, when was the last time Standard had deck that could win on turn four, Cat not included?
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Jun 4, 2017 20:44
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I think Reid Duke just realized he wasn't supposed to mention that there's 800 players at GP Omaha when there is normally 1,200. Also 6 Marvel decks in the Top 8.
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Siivola posted:My gut feeling is that since actually drawing Ulamog is terrible, Marvel increases the variance of the deck. It's like trying to win by milling the opponent's combo cards away. It's just, the energy shell is solid enough to make the deck perform even if the rolls don't line up. The electrostatic pummler decks can easily win by turn 4 with no disruption, if you're talking current standard. Atarka Red was very quick, as was origins RDW
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