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Jun 4, 2017 19:01
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Hemingway To Go! posted:Virtue signaling is always a worse term to use than actually explaining yourself. but how will we yell at each other on the internet all day and get nothing done if we address people's actual ideas instead of the ideas we ascribe to them from our unique and incompatible interpretation of one of the buzzwords they used eg 'whats wrong with fighting for social justice' BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i think it was originally about this moralistic song-and-dance routine that progressives felt compelled to do whenever talking about anything political. "as a straight white man, i know that i owe a debt to..." it's a kind of argument that starts with this grand opening gesture and often seemed to be done for self-satisfied and self-involved reasons. or used as a smokescreen for defending the indefensible, like hillary's wall street speeches and the like. see this interpretation is reasonable but also kind of divorced from mine we could argue about something for days if i meant my virtue signalling and he read it as his virtue signalling that's what the internet is here for
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Jun 4, 2017 19:21
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I associate Hillary Clinton with Mortal Kombat 2. It was a very bad movie therefore she will be a very bad president. Vote Sub-Zero('s younger brother) to make America great again.
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Jun 4, 2017 19:36
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i associate hillary clinton with real life, since associating her with a video game implies a level of nonchalant-ness and levity towards her and the threat she is to my country, my party, and my politics, my employment prospects, and anything that may affect my livelihood, that i have sincere hostile hatred for. She is merely an actual loving demon.
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Jun 4, 2017 19:57
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Fake News was real funny though because it immediately boomeranged on its creators because glass houses, stones, etc. the things those people claim is fake news isn't fake so it isn't glass houses and stones at all. BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i see the term now used by people on the right to point to any expression of opposing views to be virtue signaling. but i think this reflects an inability of people to see their enemies' "positive" actions as sincere. people think that if their enemies do a "good" thing, then they are faking the "good" part in the service of a sinister (globalist / soros-funded / etc.) agenda. it's that they can't imagine someone caring about something that doesn't directly affect them so they assume the carer must be doing it just so people will like them.
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Jun 4, 2017 20:01
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the data on fake news as reported by the left and right was like weighted way way way way way towards the right wing consuming more fake news than the left, like an 80/20 split.
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Jun 4, 2017 20:02
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Groovelord Neato posted:the things those people claim is fake news isn't fake so it isn't glass houses and stones at all.. Those people?
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Jun 4, 2017 20:03
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trump has claimed something as "fake news" when it was poo poo his subordinates confirmed on camera.OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Those people? right wing retards like our glorious leader.
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Jun 4, 2017 20:03
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Groovelord Neato posted:it's that they can't imagine someone caring about something that doesn't directly affect them so they assume the carer must be doing it just so people will like them. that is not the trending pattern of the accepted definition to be used in this thread at all
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Jun 4, 2017 20:05
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is it fake news to say that social engineering is hacking and the russians leaked the illegal dnc emails or just a grossly negligent misrepresentation of the facts and rumors at hand? who is to say really
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Jun 4, 2017 20:07
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Those people? never not misdirectin'
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Jun 4, 2017 20:08
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using anonymous sources for everything is very hard to prove as fake news, and that seems to be by design
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Jun 4, 2017 20:39
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ArgumentatumE.C.T. posted:that is not the trending pattern of the accepted definition to be used in this thread at all what the gently caress do i care it's what it actually is in practice. Laughing Man posted:is it fake news to say that social engineering is hacking and the russians leaked the illegal dnc emails or just a grossly negligent misrepresentation of the facts and rumors at hand? who is to say really social engineering is by far the most popular form of hacking and the russians are the ones who got the emails so uhh. the dems trying to blame their loss (wrongly) on it doesn't make it less true. VikingSkull posted:using anonymous sources for everything is very hard to prove as fake news, and that seems to be by design hahahahahahahaha holy poo poo.
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Jun 4, 2017 20:54
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Groovelord Neato posted:social engineering is by far the most popular form of hacking and the russians are the ones who got the emails so uhh. the dems trying to blame their loss (wrongly) on it doesn't make it less true. There's really very little evidence the Russian government was the one who hackes the emils beyond "well who else would do it??" Like literally the only evidence is some cyrillic characters in a file header or something like that. The hack was in no way sophisticated, it used no zero day exploits or anything. It was literally John Podesta getting an email that said "your password has expired" and believing it.
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Jun 4, 2017 21:07
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i know how the gently caress it happened.
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Jun 4, 2017 21:13
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Groovelord Neato posted:But this happened to the rnc too and nothing was leaked? Did it? Or maybe neither hack was successful and the emails were actually leaked by a DNC insider?
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Jun 4, 2017 21:15
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hahaha was it...seth rich?
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Jun 4, 2017 21:17
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Groovelord Neato posted:what the gently caress do i care it's what it actually is in practice. oh yeah oh gently caress yeah
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Jun 4, 2017 21:29
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Groovelord Neato posted:hahaha was it...seth rich? "This is email security, your email is compromised so change your password by emailing it to me in plaintext" "okay" CLEARLY the only reasonable possibility for a high caliber hacking such as this is Russia 
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Jun 4, 2017 21:36
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Groovelord Neato posted:hahaha was it...seth rich? Probably
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Jun 4, 2017 21:37
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:There's really very little evidence the Russian government was the one who hackes the emils beyond "well who else would do it??" Like literally the only evidence is some cyrillic characters in a file header or something like that. Now, before we assume he's an idiot for that, my employer has me use the same windows login across multiple domains and websites, many of which don't aren't my employer's, and many of which don't even match the name of the service located there. Also the passwords expire every 4 months or so. It would be very easy for someone who doesn't know how the password reset is supposed to work to get phished because they can never be sure what domain name they ought to be seeing. If the DNC were running that sort of shitshow, they'd be similarly vulnerable.
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Jun 4, 2017 21:42
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VideoTapir posted:Now, before we assume he's an idiot for that, my employer has me use the same windows login across multiple domains and websites, many of which don't aren't my employer's, and many of which don't even match the name of the service located there. Also the passwords expire every 4 months or so. It would be very easy for someone who doesn't know how the password reset is supposed to work to get phished because they can never be sure what domain name they ought to be seeing. From what I've read, that's more or less what happened.
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Jun 4, 2017 21:44
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Regardless, it's not exactly a highly sophisticated attack strongly suggestive of a state actor. It could literally be anyone. Not that we know since the DNC refused to allow the FBI to investigate
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Jun 4, 2017 21:46
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MONTHS LATER IT STILL MATTERS LEAST WHO LEAKED IT SINCE IT IS APPARENTLY REAL AND DAMNING OF THE HIGH LEVEL DNC
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Jun 5, 2017 00:51
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VideoTapir posted:Now, before we assume he's an idiot for that, my employer has me use the same windows login across multiple domains and websites, many of which don't aren't my employer's, and many of which don't even match the name of the service located there. Also the passwords expire every 4 months or so. It would be very easy for someone who doesn't know how the password reset is supposed to work to get phished because they can never be sure what domain name they ought to be seeing. I work for a federal agency and we had the senior database guy infect the network with ransom-ware. "I just kept getting these pop-ups asking for my admin credentials. I just put in my password to make it go away" Also the security guy that has access to literally everything had to contact the help desk because his monitor was unplugged. Sleep tight America. Although, Clinton saying the reason she lost is that Russians showed how corrupt she is...
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Jun 5, 2017 01:24
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BattleSausage posted:Although, Clinton saying the reason she lost is that Russians showed how corrupt she is... SEXISM. That's what you were going to say, isn't it??? Because it IS. SEXISM.
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Jun 5, 2017 01:55
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There is nothing more sacred than our electoral process and those drat Russians should stay out of it. *Is simultaneously making an argument in court that elections don't matter and they can do whatever they want.*
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Jun 5, 2017 02:00
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Even her aides want her to shut the gently caress up But they also unanimously said Clinton needs to rethink her public blaming tour. “Good God, what is she doing?” one longtime aide wondered after watching Clinton at the Recode conference in California on Wednesday. “She's apparently still really, really angry. I mean, we all are. The election was stolen from her, and that's how she feels. “But to go out there publicly again and again and talk about it? And then blame the DNC?” the aide wondered. "It's not helpful to Democrats. It's not helpful to the country, and I don't think it's helpful to her.” --- “I'm not sure there is a political strategy here,” said Democratic strategist Brad Bannon. “It sounds to me like more of a personal strategy. “Complaining about an outcome and blaming everyone else is not a good political strategy,” Bannon added. Jamal Simmons, a Democratic strategist, acknowledged some frustration among Democrats over Clinton’s remarks. “Some people I know are just frustrated that it's happening,” he said. “She is a national hero and a great public servant and has the right to be upset." But Simmons added that if she's going to discuss the loss, “it would be nice to hear a little more about the things she did wrong, which I believe mattered more than what she has discussed.” National hero lmfao
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Jun 5, 2017 16:37
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If she is anybody's hero, maybe they should rethink having heroes that are transparently self serving, gently caress everything up and then lose.
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Jun 5, 2017 16:45
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https://theintercept.com/2017/06/02/hillary-clinton-barack-obama-an-attractive-good-looking-man/"" posted:“So I never said I was a perfect candidate, and I certainly have never said I ran perfect campaigns, but I don’t know who is or did,” she told interviewer Kara Swisher. “And at some point it sort of bleeds into misogyny. And let’s just be honest, you know, people who have a set of expectations about who should be president and what a president looks like, you know, they’re going to be much more skeptical and critical of somebody who doesn’t look like and talk like and sound like everybody else who’s been president.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl4IKItffvw watch this video lolol Toadvine fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Jun 5, 2017 |
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Jun 5, 2017 16:52
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I would not put it past her ego to be doing this to force the DNC into backing her in 2020, and if they don't, laying the groundwork to run as an Independent to gently caress them over instead. She's that vindictive, it seems.
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Jun 5, 2017 16:53
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Climate change is stone cold real. Look at the massive loss of polar ice.
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Jun 5, 2017 16:58
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She wants to bang Obama. Fair enough.
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Jun 5, 2017 17:00
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Amarcarts posted:Climate change is stone cold real. Look at the massive loss of polar ice. meanwhile, Hillary Clinton's skin is synthetic and not real, and covers up a metallic endoskeleton that supports a Rube Goldbergesque collection of gears and pulleys enabling her locomotion
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Jun 5, 2017 17:01
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Amarcarts posted:Climate change is stone cold real. Look at the massive loss of polar ice. Whether it's real and whether anything can be done about it are two different issues
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Jun 5, 2017 17:05
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Toadvine posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zl4IKItffvw This is loving disgusting
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Jun 5, 2017 17:06
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hilldawg posted:And let’s just be honest, you You wouldn't even know how, you vile bloodsucker.
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Jun 5, 2017 17:15
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tactlessbastard posted:You wouldn't even know how, you vile bloodsucker. The cheer after that was hosed
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Blue Train posted:The cheer after that was hosed they sprayed the audience with the same chemical the Russians used to end the Moscow theater siege
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