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MiddleOne posted:Just pointing out that this is hardly an unresolvable situation.
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Zachack posted:To an extent it can be. You may have to dump considerable manpower and political capital into making ED happen, and even then may result in more negatives than it's worth (does the city really want to own the property?). Hence the desire for more "neutral" means of encouraging filling the storefront, like vacancy taxes. Or, if you really want to ED something, and IANAL so I'm not sure if this is possible, some sort of blight punishment that stacks liens on vacant properties, eventually lowering the value to make ED worthwhile. But that's how you get those properties in Detroit that cost $1 because you have to pay all the tax liens.
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Does anywhere have progressive property taxes? I.e. a "standard deduction" of the first 500sqft then rates tick up from there In other news I'm at Applebees right now. Had a BOGO entree coupon expiring today and I'm sucking down dollar PBRs 
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Aliquid posted:Does anywhere have progressive property taxes? I.e. a "standard deduction" of the first 500sqft then rates tick up from there Possible in one of those Scandinavian utopias, but in America well lol no, but there certainly should be. California is especially hosed because of voter passed Prop 13 which basically limits property tax to 1%, no matter what, and all property at the time was rolled back to 1976 price assessment with it able only going to go up inflation (up to max 2% a year) so people have houses are worth million+ and being assessed and taxed at like 160k @ 1%. Plus you can throw it into a trust or corp in perpetuity, AND the real kicker is this also applies to Commercial Property, so much commercial property has been passed around in varies ways to avoid re-assessment so they're also paying peanuts on the dollar for giant pieces of land holdings.
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MiddleOne posted:Or property tax. Anything that punishes hoarding real-estate and land without having any commercial activity is a net positive for the economy. We are not the economy. The economy is controlled by the 1%. Please rephrase your idea. It currently does help the "economy". Rich guys will make more, lose less. More $$ for them = good for the economy. Just like lower taxes, low inflation, and tax holidays. It doesn't help the rest of us who want to keep $$ flowing, spend money, and eat.
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Aliquid posted:Does anywhere have progressive property taxes? I.e. a "standard deduction" of the first 500sqft then rates tick up from there Not exactly what you're talking about, but I just learned that Pennsylvania does a property tax rebate. Only applies to older residents and anyone with disabilities. The income limits are at $30k/year for homeowners with half of social security excluded. I found it, because I was looking for info on this  reform. Which, actually, do we need a space to talk about property taxes and land use, e.g. vacancy and blight? It's become a noticeable derail here.
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A ton of places have an exemption for the first $x,000 of value of your primary residence. There's also a lot of places where property tax rates are bracketed, although it usually doesn't matter much.
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Aliquid posted:Does anywhere have progressive property taxes? I.e. a "standard deduction" of the first 500sqft then rates tick up from there A lot of places have exemptions for primary residences but they can be either a flat amount (first $10,000 of value exempted, say) or percentage (5% of value exempted). In the reverse of income tax, the flat exemption is more progressive than the percentage exemption. 5% of a $5 million house is a lot more than $10,000, and $10,000 matters more to someone with a $100,000 house than 5%.
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Xaris posted:Possible in one of those Scandinavian utopias Hahahahahahah  For reference, here are Sweden's capital taxes as of the last government budget, do note that this is with the social democrats in office: Wealth Tax: 0% Property Tax: 0% (This was replaced by a property fee but it's comically low and arguably as good as flat) Inheritance Tax: 0% Gift Tax: 0% Capital Gains Tax: 30-25% (This is not progressive, you simply get a deduction if you're paying yourself dividends from a company you and your relatives own) You'll have to find your socialist utopia somewhere else because we're more liberal and capital friendly than almost any other western nation that's not a tax haven. Just wait until you see our privatized welfare systems which were too liberal for even the UK! 
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21-25% of all US malls will close down in the next 5 years. 8,600 malls will have finished shutting down in the US by the end of 2017. http://money.cnn.com/2017/06/02/news/economy/doomed-malls/index.html
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:21-25% of all US malls will close down in the next 5 years. 8,600 malls will have finished shutting down in the US by the end of 2017. 8600 stores.
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Aliquid posted:Does anywhere have progressive property taxes? I.e. a "standard deduction" of the first 500sqft then rates tick up from there Don't know about other places, but here in Texas where property taxes are quite high because we don't do income tax, land and improvement (structures, etc.) values are assessed separately, and even nice landscaping and such can drive your assessed value up. It's not exactly a progressive system, and there are flaws like being able to appeal your assessment (which is more successful if you're wealthy enough to hire a specialist firm to do that for you), but still in general nicer house means higher assessed value and thus higher taxes than an equally sized but less "improved" property, though the rates may be the same. Do we not have a general real estate problems thread??
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Texas has the problem, though, where part of the assessment value derives from the value of neighboring properties. So if you drop your liability in an assessment then the building one over can nownuse your lowered liability to drop theres and then you can use their drop to lower yours andbit creates a fast race to the bottom for tax liabilities for those who can afford to play the game. And this includes commercial properties as well as residential. The Texas Tribune had a good article on it a while back.
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Aliquid posted:Does anywhere have progressive property taxes? I.e. a "standard deduction" of the first 500sqft then rates tick up from there Wouldn't you want to use assessed value for a progressive property tax scheme rather than square footage?
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Bennigan's, Houlihan's, Romano's Macaroni Grill, that kind of place. What was the first of the chain restaurants to do the artificial history thing where there's a ton of "good old days" bric-a-brac mounted on the walls and stuff that's just sort of there by template and has zero relation to where the restaurant is.
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Neo Rasa posted:Bennigan's, Houlihan's, Romano's Macaroni Grill, that kind of place. What was the first of the chain restaurants to do the artificial history thing where there's a ton of "good old days" bric-a-brac mounted on the walls and stuff that's just sort of there by template and has zero relation to where the restaurant is. I don't know if they were the first, but here's a really interesting article on TGI Friday's antiques. It's my understanding that a lot of the "American Pickers" type crap goes to chains like Friday's. Or did, before they started this minimalist rebranding thing. quote:For the past 40-plus years, casual-dining chain restaurants have dominated the suburban landscape. Friday’s and its ilk have served as cozy sanctums for Baby Boomer collectors and other nostalgia junkies, filled to the brim with mostly authentic antiques, which ranged from low-value, easy-to-find items to rare, high-dollar picks.
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Neo Rasa posted:Bennigan's, Houlihan's, Romano's Macaroni Grill, that kind of place. What was the first of the chain restaurants to do the artificial history thing where there's a ton of "good old days" bric-a-brac mounted on the walls and stuff that's just sort of there by template and has zero relation to where the restaurant is. All of them are copying things that various independent restaurants used to do and probably still do. Only of course, those restaurants would tend to be decorated with things the owner of the place or maybe their staff had some sort of connection to. Chain restaurant location #59494 that you just built in 2013 hasn't had time to accumulate that sort of decoration "naturally" so they go with just buying random stuff that looks old and importantish.
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I remember reading a thing a while back about how you could order an entire "Irish pub" from a restaurant supply catalog and it would come complete with the right kind of furniture, decor, artwork, and everything else.
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withak posted:I remember reading a thing a while back about how you could order an entire "Irish pub" from a restaurant supply catalog and it would come complete with the right kind of furniture, decor, artwork, and everything else. They had the dudes who run that on NPR a while ago. http://www.npr.org/2017/04/07/523044318/the-mastermind-behind-the-international-irish-pub
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withak posted:I remember reading a thing a while back about how you could order an entire "Irish pub" from a restaurant supply catalog and it would come complete with the right kind of furniture, decor, artwork, and everything else. Modern technology has really streamlined that whole process:  
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:I don't know if they were the first, but here's a really interesting article on TGI Friday's antiques. It's my understanding that a lot of the "American Pickers" type crap goes to chains like Friday's. Or did, before they started this minimalist rebranding thing. That was a pretty drat interesting read. Living in the Bay Area, "minimalistic" / contemporary conformism / w/e you want to call it is dime a dozen so I don't really know what they're hoping to accomplish. I think they're going to be very disappointed when "millennials" don't flock to them anymore than they did.. That was a bit more novel in 2010 but everything new is mostly the same. Fortunately they usually do serve really good food, but will diminish over the next 5 years judging by a lot of restaurants around here. For me, biggest factor is location (living in the east bay, we have really good food between Berkeley-Oakland and even neighboring cities). If I can just walk or short drive, hell yeah. Food then is #2 (mostly because you can find really good food no matter where) although I've gone to SF just for a new hip restaurant before but it's more once in a blue moon thing. Then it's decor, followed by whatever. I seriously dig and a sucker for eclectic to old victorian-early 1900s variations of art deco to streamline moderne to googie, and actually liked Applebees and Old Spaghetti Factory settings (there was one in Sacramento in an old winery that was seriously rather cool we used to go to a lot) as a kid, but I mostly haven't been to those places since 2002 since they really just don't serve good food, and also not close by or easily accessible anyways. Fortunately we still have some rather authentic bars and places (albeit very few) in SF that still have actually cool decor and I enjoy going there on the rare occasion if i'm in the area. Drinks are generally always good but food can still vary wildly and if it's not good I really just don't go.
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Xaris posted:That was a pretty drat interesting read. Living in the Bay Area, "minimalistic" / contemporary conformism / w/e you want to call it is dime a dozen so I don't really know what they're hoping to accomplish. I think they're going to be very disappointed when "millennials" don't flock to them anymore than they did.. That was a bit more novel in 2010 but everything new is mostly the same. Fortunately they usually do serve really good food, but will diminish over the next 5 years judging by a lot of restaurants around here. Huh, now you've got me thinking about what I like in restaurant decor. I think I like the "neighborhood pizza restaurant" vibe best. Red leather booths, stained glass lamps, little league team photos, etc.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Huh, now you've got me thinking about what I like in restaurant decor. I think I like the "neighborhood pizza restaurant" vibe best. Red leather booths, stained glass lamps, little league team photos, etc.  Also this poo poo is extremely my jam 
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Xaris posted:Those are good, there's a pizza place that opened about 5 years ago with actual brick and old-chicago style, its pretty neat. Ooh those are both my jam as well. Come post in the Interior Design thread!
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Unfortunately most restaurants are like this, which like I said was more novel 6 years ago but eh feels very  now Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Ooh those are both my jam as well. Come post in the Interior Design thread!
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Xaris posted:Unfortunately most restaurants are like this, which like I said was more novel 6 years ago but eh feels very Yeah! People are mostly posting about domestic interiors right now but commercial interiors are a really interesting topic too.
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I very much dig the "cheap/comfy coffeeshop" vibe. Old couches, maybe slightly wobbly tables, wood floors, very Seattle circa 1993. Like a no-poo poo Central Perk, but maybe with more bookshelves. If someone could make a full-service restaurant where I can sit on a couch I would be in heaven.
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There's a fish and chip restaurant in a town a little way from me that has this gorgeous art deco interior, and the swankiest bathrooms I've ever seen. The food is really good too but it's also just a really nice place to sit and eat. Bright, colourful, and classy.
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That just reminds me of trying to eat at Olga's
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ReidRansom posted:Do we not have a general real estate problems thread?? I'd be very intestested in a worldwide real estate problems thread if someone with the knowledge wanted to take the time to make one. There's a Canadian real estate bubble thread, but there seems to be a bunch of these popping up all over the world with investment holding companies barging into and taking over small landlord holdings. A thread to discuss bubbles, hoarded/unused property discussion, property tax fuckery etc would be good.
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tekz posted:I'd be very intestested in a worldwide real estate problems thread if someone with the knowledge wanted to take the time to make one. There's a Canadian real estate bubble thread, but there seems to be a bunch of these popping up all over the world with investment holding companies barging into and taking over small landlord holdings. A thread to discuss bubbled, hoarded/unused property discussion, property tax fuckery etc would be good. I'd be interested in this also but possess none of the requisite knowledge.
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Xaris posted:Also this poo poo is extremely my jam You would have been in heaven in the early 1980s. This style of interior design is called a "Fern bar', and the very first T.G.I. Fridays (established in Manhattan, of all places) defined the form. Imitation Tiffany lamps are the giveaway.
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https://thenextweb.com/insights/2017/06/06/amazon-fights-poverty-prime-discount-food-stamps/#.tnw_LKiajVaw Welp walmart quote:Amazon is giving poverty an upgrade by offering customers on government assistance programs a 45-percent discount on Amazon Prime. The Amazon service is normally $10.99 monthly but the discount for those with EBT cards drops to just $5.99 per month. Well they also get access to prime video and music, so it's a lot of stuff for 6 dollars a month.
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incoherent posted:https://thenextweb.com/insights/2017/06/06/amazon-fights-poverty-prime-discount-food-stamps/#.tnw_LKiajVaw That's amazing...bargain shopping can be a huge pain in the rear end for the poor in under-served areas. Many of these people don't have the means to go to the cheapest stores.
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it's deffo a game changer. The only lovely thing is ~fresh fruits,veggies, and meats~ are still outta reach.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/sears-is-closing-72-stores-heres-the-full-list-2017-6 Sears will close another 72 stores in September. 16 Sears stores, 49 Kmarts, and 7 auto centers.
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incoherent posted:https://thenextweb.com/insights/2017/06/06/amazon-fights-poverty-prime-discount-food-stamps/#.tnw_LKiajVaw OhFunny posted:http://www.businessinsider.com/sears-is-closing-72-stores-heres-the-full-list-2017-6
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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The Amazon change is cool. But if you are on EBT, then is $4 a month really going to change your shopping habits? Especially since most food products are far more expensive on Amazon than in the grocery store.
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You might be able to do Prime Pantry. But certainly for things like paper towels the prices combined with free shipping would be attractive. Plus you get watch a movie on Prime instead of renting you've saved the 4 bucks right there.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The Amazon change is cool. But if you are on EBT, then is $4 a month really going to change your shopping habits? quote:Especially since most food products are far more expensive on Amazon than in the grocery store.
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