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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Flatscan
Mar 27, 2001

Outlaw Journalist

The DPRK posted:

To those of you in support of Corbyn this election, how do you remember feeling this far out from the 2015 election?

I really didn't give a gently caress, especially after the Ed stone and the "controls on immigration" bullshit.

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limited
Dec 10, 2005
Limited Sanity

Pistol_Pete posted:

And they told us Corbyn would never use nukes :smug:
Granted it's a while back, but I saw that exchange on catchup, and to be honest it was loving terrifying to watch. First country to pop a nuke nowadays, is basically going to be the one who starts a reaction that will end the loving Earth under the guise of 'retaliatory strikes' or similar.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Looking at the guardian website is depressing, not because they are obviously 100% behind their boy Corbs but, because this is what they should have been doing from the moment the election was announced. Wankers.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

When I went to vote in 2015 I looked at my vote card and briefly considered spoiling or otherwise but decided that being a marginal it was important to vote Labour to stop the Tories.

It was still half-hearted though and it was more I wanted "not the Tories" to win than actually supporting Ed. Although if 2017 Ed was the leader I'd be more for it.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jose posted:

remember when russell brand endorsed him after voter registration ended
Months leading to the election "don't vote, the system is all rigged, they're all corrupt, watch the Trews for Trew News :420:"
Day after registration ends "I spoke to Ed and you should vote Labour"

MiddleOne
Feb 17, 2011

spectralent posted:

It refers to a policy in northern ireland where you'd shoot suspected terrorists outright on the probability they'd be a threat soon.

This is an idea I didn't realize existed outside of bad American action-movies, jesus christ. :psyduck:

dispatch_async
Nov 28, 2014

Imagine having the time to have played through 20 generations of one family in The Sims 2. Imagine making the original two members of that family Neil Buchanan and Cat Deeley. Imagine complaining to Maxis there was no technological progression. You've successfully imagined my life

The DPRK posted:

To those of you in support of Corbyn this election, how do you remember feeling this far out from the 2015 election?

kustomkarkommando posted:

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: "Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed:
And on the pedestal these words appear:
'CONTROLS ON IMMIGRATION'

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

learnincurve posted:

Looking at the guardian website is depressing, not because they are obviously 100% behind their boy Corbs but, because this is what they should have been doing from the moment the election was announced. Wankers.

check out their facebook page

Mugsbaloney
Jul 11, 2012

We prefer your extinction to the loss of our job

That's glorious

oxford_town
Aug 6, 2009

learnincurve posted:

Looking at the guardian website is depressing, not because they are obviously 100% behind their boy Corbs but, because this is what they should have been doing from the moment the election was announced. Wankers.

Does it make much of a difference? The graun readership is pretty solidly pro-Corbyn anyway.

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

Noxville posted:

https://twitter.com/polcommentuk/status/871687761023074304

ITV news political editor not quite understanding politics. Pretending to be dense to make a point or literally thinking the country has been rudderless for the past two months?

Or making the point that she has actually resigned as PM. Yes she's sill in post but only because she's serving a notice period until the new PM is appointed.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Richard Murphy rescinds and apologises for his un-endorsement of Corbyn last year

https://twitter.com/RichardJMurphy/status/871626512411262976

Lovechop
Feb 1, 2005

cheers mate
i support shoot to kill but only for 'small business owners'

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

oxford_town posted:

Does it make much of a difference? The graun readership is pretty solidly pro-Corbyn anyway.

aaaaaaaaahahahahahhahahahahahhahhahahhabh

You sweet summer child

JOHNSON COCKSLAP
Apr 2, 2017

by Lowtax

Lovechop posted:

i support shoot to kill but only for 'small business owners'


shoot to kill and the death penalty should both be opt-in

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

oxford_town posted:

Does it make much of a difference? The graun readership is pretty solidly pro-Corbyn anyway.

Yes it makes a huge difference. The front page of newspapers is the best advertising there is for a political party. You walk past a newspaper stand and you will see the Tory press have had big bold eye catching writing on the front page praising May and the Tory party right from day 1. The supposed Labour press have had gently caress all supporting Corbyn or Labour on their front pages until now, and it's all because the petty blairite wankers couldn't face seeing a left winger in charge.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

The DPRK posted:

To those of you in support of Corbyn this election, how do you remember feeling this far out from the 2015 election?
Like the hung parliament narrative was a lie and we would get a tory government, and I was right!

Pesky Splinter
Feb 16, 2011

A worried pug.

Oberleutnant posted:

I remember that for me it was more about wanting to keep the Tories out, than having any really positive feelings for Labour.

Ditto.

Certainly wasn't going to vote UKIP or Tory, and the Libdems managed to implode and poo poo themselves. So it was a choice between Tory "cut everything now", or Labour's "cut everything, but slower" - at least, that's how it felt at the time.

It's nice now to actually be able to get behind a manifestio I support, rather than feeling "gently caress me, really? Well, it's better than the Tories, I guess."

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

Cerv posted:

Or making the point that she has actually resigned as PM. Yes she's sill in post but only because she's serving a notice period until the new PM is appointed.

It'a a dumb twitter semantics thing, could also be a call to step down as party leader.

Raeg
Jul 7, 2008

The top 1% of ducks have control of 99.9% of the bread.

jBrereton posted:

Like the hung parliament narrative was a lie and we would get a tory government, and I was right!

The Ed Stone really did me in, it was like watching Thick of It in real life.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


The DPRK posted:

To those of you in support of Corbyn this election, how do you remember feeling this far out from the 2015 election?

I find that much of the pro-Corbyn messaging was due to his being a principled man that has been misrepresented by the media. I don't think I could have said the same about Ed Miliband...

I don't remember exactly. I wanted the Tories to lose, I thought they probably had to because they just seemed unpopular. I took it for granted that even though his campaign was bad & the immigration cups were the exact opposite of what I wanted from Labour they'd at least pick up more MPs & close the gap to the Tories, even if they might not be the biggest party. I know I was more excited about the SNP wave at the time, by the idea of places across the central belt finally unseating lovely Labour MPs for life like Douglas Alexander, Jim Murphy, Tom Harris & Tom Clarke, as well as seeing the inevitable collapse of the Lib Dems.

The polls one month out from 2015 had Labour a lot closer to the Tories, the lowest prediction had them getting 266 MPs even with the SNP being predicted to pick up 49 seats. But the Lib Dem was worse than the pollsters expected, which provided a brief (OK, a 2 year long & continuing) moment of schadenfreude but ultimately saw a lot of votes move to the Tories. Where as this time Labour were predicted a month out to do as bad as 150 MPs. Because Corbyn started from so far back in the polls, everyone knew that simply not losing any seats would be an overly optimistic target. But unlike in 2015, Miliband ran a bad campaign against a very smooth campaigner, Corbyn has run a competent campaign against an absolute disaster of a campaign, so there's momentum on his side. But even the most optimistic poll only has Labour winning 268 MPs. And yes, I'd regard picking up seats a small victory considering where Labour were at when the election started, it's certainly not anything to be carried away with.

At this point the most hopeful scenario I can see coming true is the Conservatives as the biggest party but with 300 or so MPs, not enough to form a government. They stumble on for a few months before we end up with another election within the next months, with the Parliamentary Labour Party staying somewhat unified in public in the the mean time to transport Labour to a win & a majority. But then a month ago I thought Labour not losing any MPs was the most optimistic scenario, so maybe May's response to the London attacks, & her record as Home Secretary, is enough to prove me a pessimist.

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

learnincurve posted:

Yes it makes a huge difference. The front page of newspapers is the best advertising there is for a political party. You walk past a newspaper stand and you will see the Tory press have had big bold eye catching writing on the front page praising May and the Tory party right from day 1.

On this note the Tories have literally bought the front page of the Bath Chronicle, it's an advertisers wrap around but a conservative party ad. I feel that should be illegal frankly.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

https://twitter.com/DawnHFoster/status/871681583320838145

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/871697195795443716

that's slough +1 Lab

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Raeg posted:

The Ed Stone really did me in, it was like watching Thick of It in real life.
I don't think it was the Ed Stone that tipped it, it was more a general feeling of "we're not far enough away from 2010 that the current economic problems that have been worsened by the tories can still be plausibly blamed on Labour, and the Lib Dems are dead.". I think it being Barry OB rather than Trump who was in the White House also affected it to some extent. Cameron getting on sorta OK with Baz, well that's just normal. Tess and The Donald, match made in hell.

Ferrosol
Nov 8, 2010

Notorious J.A.M

The DPRK posted:

To those of you in support of Corbyn this election, how do you remember feeling this far out from the 2015 election?

I find that much of the pro-Corbyn messaging was due to his being a principled man that has been misrepresented by the media. I don't think I could have said the same about Ed Miliband...

I'd seen the Ed stone and controls on immigration mug and thought we're hosed wasn't expecting the Lib Dems to collapse​ so hard though I was expecting another coalition

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Derbyshire Times did that the week after the election was called and their twitter was choked with people telling them to gently caress off. They responded to An Angry Letter the next week with some bullshit about how they were politically neutral and then three pages later they had big pictures of May going round some Clay Cross factory pointing at stuff.

Ewan
Sep 29, 2008

Ewan is tired of his reputation as a serious Simon. I'm more of a jokester than you people think. My real name isn't even Ewan, that was a joke it's actually MARTIN! LOL fooled you again, it really is Ewan! Look at that monkey with a big nose, Ewan is so random! XD
I know everyone here is loving this, but it just looks a bit off this close to the election, and instead should be framing it as the power of the public to force her out of PM position on 8th of June through the ballot box.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Ewan posted:

I know everyone here is loving this, but it just looks a bit off this close to the election, and instead should be framing it as the power of the public to force her out of PM position on 8th of June through the ballot box.
tbf that is more or less what he said after "do you think you should resign". Transcript I am recalling in my head was something like "yes I think she should, after presiding over these cuts, however the public are the ones with the most power to do that on the 8th."

Serotonin
Jul 14, 2001

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *blank*

Lovechop posted:

i support shoot to kill but only for 'small business owners'

And landlords

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Ewan posted:

I know everyone here is loving this, but it just looks a bit off this close to the election, and instead should be framing it as the power of the public to force her out of PM position on 8th of June through the ballot box.

He did actually clarify in the clip that he meant that Thursday was the day to make her step down.

Carecat
Apr 27, 2004

Buglord

learnincurve posted:

Yes it makes a huge difference. The front page of newspapers is the best advertising there is for a political party. You walk past a newspaper stand and you will see the Tory press have had big bold eye catching writing on the front page praising May and the Tory party right from day 1. The supposed Labour press have had gently caress all supporting Corbyn or Labour on their front pages until now, and it's all because the petty blairite wankers couldn't face seeing a left winger in charge.

She's caught quite a bit of fire which is probably half the reason the gap closed, not that I think it was as big as it was initially made out.

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

Raeg posted:

It'a a dumb twitter semantics thing, could also be a call to step down as party leader.
she will do if they don't get the most seats on Thursday night

mediadave
Sep 8, 2011

The DPRK posted:

To those of you in support of Corbyn this election, how do you remember feeling this far out from the 2015 election?

I find that much of the pro-Corbyn messaging was due to his being a principled man that has been misrepresented by the media. I don't think I could have said the same about Ed Miliband...

I'm ambivalent about Corbyn, I guess his persistent habit of prevarication (being unable to denounce the IRA without also denouncing loyalist groups, being unable to denounce antisemitism without also denouncing all other racism, etc) hits me the same way the immigration cup hit lots of you. Which I still think is stupid, Ed's immigration policy was more open than Corbyn's is now, but nevermind. I do take the point that Corbyn has enthused and inspired people in a way that most PLP candidates couldn't. We will see if it actually shakes out that way, of course.

At this point in 2015 I was just grateful that Cameron's time was coming to an end, but my main worry was the SNP wave. From a couple of weeks before the 2014 indyref I thought yes was going to win and got very depressed and anxious. Yes lost, but then Scottish Labour dissolved and Cameron seemed to be deliberately obnoxious and antagonistic about it, and it seemed guaranteed that there was going to be another referendum very shortly and that yes would win. I thought a Labour government would put an end to that movement.

Ewan
Sep 29, 2008

Ewan is tired of his reputation as a serious Simon. I'm more of a jokester than you people think. My real name isn't even Ewan, that was a joke it's actually MARTIN! LOL fooled you again, it really is Ewan! Look at that monkey with a big nose, Ewan is so random! XD

jBrereton posted:

tbf that is more or less what he said after "do you think you should resign". Transcript I am recalling in my head was something like "yes I think she should, after presiding over these cuts, however the public are the ones with the most power to do that on the 8th."


Tesseraction posted:

He did actually clarify in the clip that he meant that Thursday was the day to make her step down.
Ah OK, thanks. Surprise surprise the media reporting on this misses off that part in the headline...

Here's the full clip
https://twitter.com/Nico22a022/status/871691939925676032

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Cerv posted:

she will do if they don't get the most seats on Thursday night

Who'd you have to replace her? Best odds you can get on Boris, the bookies favourite, is 6/1. Amber Rudd the 2nd favourite, then Philip Hammond. Not sure Rudd would stand much chance in the light of the past few days though.

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

I've a bottle of champagne in the fridge ready for Friday breakfast time. just in case.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

mediadave posted:

(being unable to denounce the IRA without also denouncing loyalist groups, being unable to denounce antisemitism without also denouncing all other racism, etc)
gently caress off

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

forkboy84 posted:

Who'd you have to replace her? Best odds you can get on Boris, the bookies favourite, is 6/1. Amber Rudd the 2nd favourite, then Philip Hammond. Not sure Rudd would stand much chance in the light of the past few days though.

Andrea Leadsom

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mediadave
Sep 8, 2011

Oberleutnant posted:

gently caress off

Ask me if I disagree with the UVF

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