CanPol Megathread: Big Changus

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Skippy Granola: Sep 3, 2011; It's not what it looks like.

CLAM DOWN posted:

What, is/was that actually a thing??!

Yeah, just another one of their idiot Reddit dogwhistles.

I was just wondering if Scheer was a regular odious conservative dildo or the bad kind.

# ? Jun 5, 2017 18:36

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# ? May 14, 2024 14:51

BattleMaster: Aug 14, 2000

Yeah, it has to do with the fact that milk is white and also that Europeans have higher rates of lactose tolerance than other ethnic groups.

Normally I wouldn't make the connection, but this kind of 4chan/Reddit alt-right poo poo has been leaking out into the real world something fierce lately so my first thought when I saw Scheer with the milk carton is that he's also going with that angle.

edit: like I can't imagine why he would even have the carton on his person to begin with unless he was planning on using it like that

BattleMaster fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Jun 5, 2017

# ? Jun 5, 2017 18:40

Reince Penis: Nov 15, 2007; by R. Guyovich

He's drinking milk because the Bernier wing of the party is accusing him of stacking the vote with "fake members" (i.e. dairy farmers) who signed up only to make sure Bernier doesn't take away their dairy price controls.

I don't think it has anything to do with white supremacy.

# ? Jun 5, 2017 18:43

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

So the new scheer Tories want to appeal to a minority of Canada's population who are old dumb and fat as gently caress

# ? Jun 5, 2017 18:45

Argas: Jan 13, 2008; SRW Fanatic

The thing with white supremacy is that it probably has to do with white supremacy.

# ? Jun 5, 2017 18:45

Subjunctive: Sep 12, 2006; ✨sparkle and shine✨

namaste faggots posted:

So the new scheer Tories want to appeal to a minority of Canada's population who are old dumb and fat as gently caress

Minority of Canadians, but majority of voters?

# ? Jun 5, 2017 18:47

CLAM DOWN: Feb 13, 2007

BattleMaster posted:

also that Europeans have higher rates of lactose tolerance than other ethnic groups.

Weird, I didn't know that, especially looking at the Dutch and their dairy love.

# ? Jun 5, 2017 18:48

Heliogabalos: Apr 16, 2017; you can still key in codes for the cheapest of item (for example, celery instead of organic whatever) and no one pays any attention and it saves me a fuckton of money on organic produce

infernal machines posted:

Get a job in "communications"

get an esl certificate and teach in one of the hundreds of Vancouver's lovely private esl schools and be ridiculously underpaid, either because of an arcane hourly pay rubric (paying only 50 minutes of every hour) or starting in a school that unionized ten years ago so six teachers get paid $45/hr or salary and the remainder start and stay at $18/hr for the first two years with no benefits or vacation.

# ? Jun 5, 2017 18:50

BattleMaster: Aug 14, 2000

CLAM DOWN posted:

Weird, I didn't know that, especially looking at the Dutch and their dairy love.

Maybe I should have said lower rates of lactose intolerance to be more clear? Either way, Europeans can take milk and dumbass alt-righters think milk makes a funny symbol for white supremacy as a result.

I guess Scheer is trying to be cheeky about the the milk farmer thing but I'm not going to give him any benefit of the doubt

# ? Jun 5, 2017 18:53

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

CLAM DOWN posted:

Weird, I didn't know that, especially looking at the Dutch and their dairy love.

If the prices we're paying for it suddenly dropped by two thirds we'd have a real love for it too.

# ? Jun 5, 2017 18:53

PT6A: Jan 5, 2006; Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane

BattleMaster posted:

Maybe I should have said lower rates of lactose intolerance to be more clear? Either way, Europeans can take milk and dumbass alt-righters think milk makes a funny symbol for white supremacy as a result.

I guess Scheer is trying to be cheeky about the the milk farmer thing but I'm not going to give him any benefit of the doubt

gently caress him either way. Either he's a white supremacist, or he's a stooge for a broken industry and proud of it. The former is worse than the latter, to be sure, but both are bad.

flakeloaf posted:

If the prices we're paying for it suddenly dropped by two thirds we'd have a real love for it too.

I'd love it if I could afford, for example, good Dutch cheese regularly, but I loving can't because it's too goddamn loving expensive because of pricks like Scheer and a bunch of corporate farmers that support a garbage system.

# ? Jun 5, 2017 19:00

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

The federal government has approved a 40-year natural gas export licence for the proposed Woodfibre LNG plant near Squamish, B.C. The announcement was made by Natural Resources Minister Jim Carr during a speech at the Canadian Embassy in China.

REAL CHANGE

# ? Jun 5, 2017 19:06

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

But he's so young and handsome

# ? Jun 5, 2017 19:11

CLAM DOWN: Feb 13, 2007

A Singapore company exporting LNG to Asia announced in China.

CANADIAN JOBS CANADA FIRST *furiously shits pants in indignant rage*

# ? Jun 5, 2017 19:12

Helsing: Aug 23, 2003; DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU JOE BIDEN

This whole story is just... there are no loving words.

quote:

'I'm the victim and I'm in shackles': Edmonton woman jailed while testifying against her attacker

Alberta justice minister apologizes for 'appalling' treatment of sexual assault victim
By Janice Johnston, CBC News Posted: Jun 05, 2017 3:00 AM MT Last Updated: Jun 05, 2017 9:45 AM MT

On a Monday afternoon in June 2015, Angela Cardinal was led into an Edmonton courtroom handcuffed and in leg shackles. Metallic rattling echoed as a sheriff escorted the 28-year-old to the witness stand.

She was not the accused, but rather a victim � called to testify at a preliminary hearing after she was savagely attacked and sexually assaulted by a notorious sexual predator.

Cardinal was angry about being locked up.

"I'm the victim and look at me, I'm in shackles," she told provincial court Judge Raymond Bodnarek.

"You're going to go back to remand tonight," he replied, "so that we can get you back here tomorrow."

Cardinal's fury increased.

"Shackles," she spat. "Aren't you supposed to commit a crime to go to jail?"

Cardinal was forced to spend a total of five nights in the Edmonton Remand Centre during her testimony.

Angela Cardinal is not the woman's real name. A publication ban prohibits CBC from identifying her even though she died in an unrelated, accidental shooting months after testifying at the preliminary hearing.

'Didn't deserve to be locked up'

Alberta Justice Minister Kathleen Ganley was appalled when CBC News told her of Cardinal's treatment.

"I've never seen a case like this," she said. "I mean, how many people did she come into contact with and nobody stood up and said, 'Guys I think this is wrong. I think we've made a mistake.'

"I was very surprised that our system would have allowed something like this to happen � I think that anyone would be shocked by it."

Ganley said she has already formed a special committee to look at the case to review policies, with an eye to making what she calls "aggressive changes." As well, criminal lawyer Roberta Campbell, outgoing president of the Law Society of Manitoba, will head an independent investigation into the treatment of Cardinal.

"She was the victim. We should have treated her as the victim. And I think it definitely speaks to a series of wrong decisions and a series of systemic failures that would have allowed us to do something like this to this young woman."

Aggravated sexual assault

Cardinal, a Cree woman from Maskwacis, about 100 kilometres south of Edmonton, moved to the city when she was 14.

On a June afternoon in 2014, she was tired and hungry, with nowhere to call home. She convinced a tenant to let her inside a central Edmonton apartment building. She had no idea that Lance Blanchard, a career criminal, lived on the second floor.

Curled up in the stairwell next to a baseboard heater, Cardinal sang herself to sleep with This Little Light of Mine. But she awoke to a knife at her throat. Holding it was a six-foot-seven-inch, 260-pound convicted sexual predator.

At just over five feet tall, weighing only 109 pounds, Cardinal was at a clear disadvantage.

"Blanchard came out of nowhere, bat out of hell, grabbing me," Cardinal testified.

She said he dragged her by the hair, up the stairs, to his dirty, cluttered apartment.

Once they were inside, she said, all hell broke loose.

'I was praying I would die'

"He started stabbing me," Cardinal said. "He said he was going to make me ugly and stick me in a closet and keep me. He started banging my head off the ground."

Exhibit photos show Cardinal's jacket and shoes on a blood-soaked couch. Blanchard held her at knifepoint, removed her clothing and fondled her.

"I felt disgusting," Cardinal told court. "I wanted to get away as fast as possible, but I couldn't. I was praying I would die before anything else happened."

Blanchard grabbed electrical cords to tie up her legs. Court transcripts show he tried to stab her in the chest, but Cardinal put up her left hand to protect herself. Blood poured from a deep cut to her palm.

She made a run for the door, but couldn't turn the knob with her slippery, bloody hands.

Help finally arrived

Blanchard was on top of Cardinal's back when she pulled out a hidden phone, dialled 911, put it on speaker and threw it across the room.

The six-minute phone call to police was chaotic. On a recording, Cardinal can be heard screaming frantically in the background, "Help me. Somebody, help me. I've been stabbed."

It took 27 stitches to repair the wound to her hand. Her body was covered with cuts. One eye was black and blue. Her neck was bruised from where Blanchard tried to choke her.

Ordered into custody

One year later, on June 5, 2015, Cardinal had to face her attacker again, at his preliminary hearing.

On the first day she was called to testify, she kept falling asleep. She had trouble focusing and answering questions.

At the request of Crown prosecutor Patricia Innes, Bodnarek ordered that Cardinal spend the weekend at the Edmonton Remand Centre. Both were concerned about her physical and mental state.

Innes suggested Cardinal had "presented in a condition unsuitable for testifying, and we don't know what the reason is."

Bodnarek determined he had authority to detain Cardinal under Section 545(1)(b) of the Criminal Code, which applies to witnesses who refuse to answer questions.

When Cardinal returned to court after a weekend in custody, she pleaded with the judge to be "unremanded."

"It's not a pleasant scene I'm living," she said. "Like, I'm the fricking victim here and I mean, like, come on. You sit in the back of those cells. It feels like an hour went by but really it's only 20 minutes."

Cardinal asked to be released to stay with her mother. She promised she would return to court to continue her testimony.

Bodnarek refused, but told her: "We're going to make sure that all efforts will be made to keep you separate from Mr. Blanchard."

But both Blanchard and Cardinal were detained at the same facility. It was later revealed that at least twice, Cardinal had to travel in the same cramped prisoner transport van as her attacker. The remand centre and Edmonton's courthouse are 15 kilometres apart.

During court breaks, Cardinal was usually placed in a cell close to Blanchard.

Ganley called that yet another failure of the justice system.

"None of us will ever really understand what it was like for her to sit there and stare at the man who did this to her," Ganley said. "While she's trapped, essentially."

'Taken advantage of'

Deb Tomlinson has spent decades working with sex assault survivors. She is currently the CEO of the Association of Alberta Sexual Assault Services.

"I just felt really, really sad. And certainly angry as well," Tomlinson said after learning about the case. "First of all, that this young woman was taken advantage of and sexually assaulted. And then was � in many ways � taken advantage of and retraumatized by the system that she sought to seek justice through."

Sex assault victims require specialized support throughout the entire process, including testifying, Tomlinson said.

"And this was the farthest thing from victim support that I've ever seen."

Tragedy after preliminary hearing

Seven months after Cardinal testified at the preliminary hearing, she became a victim once again, gunned down in an accidental shooting. The man who shot her pleaded guilty to manslaughter.

While alive, Cardinal never told her mother about the assault or about her experience testifying.

"She didn't say anything to us," Cardinal's mother said tearfully, when CBC News shared the details with her in April. "She said she had to go to court. That's all she told me."

She is outraged by the way her daughter was treated. "It's not right. And after all what he did to her, it's not fair."

Blanchard was ultimately committed to stand trial. When the case was heard in Edmonton Court of Queen's Bench, Cardinal's testimony from the preliminary hearing was allowed in as evidence, as she was no longer alive to testify.

Last December, Justice Eric Macklin found Blanchard guilty of aggravated assault, kidnapping, unlawful confinement, aggravated sexual assault, possession of a weapon and threatening to cause death or bodily harm.

Blanchard remains behind bars. The Crown will be asking to have him designated as a dangerous offender.

The judge was blunt in his criticism of the lower court.

"I was troubled by the treatment of the complainant," Macklin wrote in his 49-page decision.

"Her treatment by the justice system was appalling. She is owed an apology."

Ganley apologizes to victim's mother

After CBC News alerted Ganley to the details of the case, she read Macklin's decision herself.

Last month, the justice minister took it upon herself to call Cardinal's mother to apologize. She described the conversation as "emotional" and "difficult."

Ganley said she regrets not being able to apologize directly to the victim.

"I know there's nothing that can ever be done to make it up," she said. "But I certainly hope we can find a way to never let this happen again."

Almost every single line of this story is a distillation of what a racist garbage country Canada manages to be. Locked up in shackles and kept in a prison and transported in a bus / kept in a cell next to the person who almost killed and raped you, all for the crime of getting stabbed and sexually assaulted while being a native. And then she died in an unrelated violent incident.

# ? Jun 5, 2017 19:25

CLAM DOWN: Feb 13, 2007

I got really loving angry reading that :|

# ? Jun 5, 2017 19:31

mojo1701a: Oct 9, 2008; Oh, yeah. Loud and clear. Emphasis on LOUD!
~ David Lee Roth

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

He's drinking milk because the Bernier wing of the party is accusing him of stacking the vote with "fake members" (i.e. dairy farmers) who signed up only to make sure Bernier doesn't take away their dairy price controls.

I don't think it has anything to do with white supremacy.

Bernier lost because of money and the lactic vote.

# ? Jun 5, 2017 19:32

Skippy Granola: Sep 3, 2011; It's not what it looks like.

Helsing posted:

This whole story is just... there are no loving words.

Almost every single line of this story is a distillation of what a racist garbage country Canada manages to be. Locked up in shackles and kept in a prison and transported in a bus / kept in a cell next to the person who almost killed and raped you, all for the crime of getting stabbed and sexually assaulted while being a native. And then she died in an unrelated violent incident.

That and the young Aboriginal man who was kept in solitary for something like 1500 days.

This country is incredible in its awfulness.

# ? Jun 5, 2017 19:34

EvilJoven: Mar 18, 2005; NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?; Fun Shoe

Helsing posted:

This whole story is just... there are no loving words.

Almost every single line of this story is a distillation of what a racist garbage country Canada manages to be. Locked up in shackles and kept in a prison and transported in a bus / kept in a cell next to the person who almost killed and raped you, all for the crime of getting stabbed and sexually assaulted while being a native. And then she died in an unrelated violent incident.

And this is why I hate everything.

EDIT: why the gently caress does our justice system keep letting people out on parole after numerous experts testify at their parole hearing that they're almost certainly going to re-offend.

The guy that almost killed my aunt and uncle had to commit the same offense on three separate occasions before they finally deemed him too dangerous to release.

EvilJoven fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Jun 5, 2017

# ? Jun 5, 2017 19:34

flakeloaf: Feb 26, 2003; Still better than android clock

mojo1701a posted:

Bernier lost because of money and the lactic vote.

# ? Jun 5, 2017 19:38

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

But Canada is the best country in the world we indented peacekeeping and burned down the white house

# ? Jun 5, 2017 19:38

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

EvilJoven posted:

EDIT: why the gently caress does our justice system keep letting people out on parole after numerous experts testify at their parole hearing that they're almost certainly going to re-offend.

The guy that almost killed my aunt and uncle had to commit the same offense on three separate occasions before they finally deemed him too dangerous to release.

the jails are full and the courts are backlogged with drug offenders

# ? Jun 5, 2017 19:50

Stickarts: Dec 21, 2003; literally

In Regina, a First Nations woman who was hired as a prostitute fell to her death down a garbage chute in a hotel. You know, the ones that close automatically that you'd have to wedge open to even begin to crawl into. The ones that are barely big enough to fit a child into. These being safety features to prevent death, no doubt. She had been heard screaming and crying in the halls the night of her death.

The police ruled it an accident.

# ? Jun 5, 2017 19:52

HookShot: Dec 26, 2005

Jesus Christ.

# ? Jun 5, 2017 20:20

Mr Luxury Yacht: Apr 16, 2012

Dreylad posted:

If you get an OGS or a CGS you'll be doing very well, but U of T generally funds its grads quite well. If you get accepted, I think you'll be fine.

IIRC it's usually only really research-based programs that have really any student funding and I'm not sure all OISE programs are (website says the package is only for PhD and "non-professional" masters), but if it's in line with the other faculties it's generally around 15K per year with tuition covered. If you TA (which you should/might be forced to) you can get topped up to 17k and different faculties have rules on whether TAing is part of your funding package or extra on top.

So yeah, get roommates since that'll basically cover only rent in Toronto in a one bedroom or bachelor if you're lucky.

# ? Jun 5, 2017 20:21

Reince Penis: Nov 15, 2007; by R. Guyovich

THC posted:

The federal government has approved a 40-year natural gas export licence for the proposed Woodfibre LNG plant near Squamish, B.C. The announcement was made by Natural Resources Minister Jim Carr during a speech at the Canadian Embassy in China.

REAL CHANGE

Why do you hate young progressive politicians with dreamy eyes and great hair? :mad:

Also, Woodfibre is tied to a bunch of illegal donations to the BC Liberals that are under investigation by Elections BC.

# ? Jun 5, 2017 20:41

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Fossil fuel death drive. Unpopular announcement made abroad. Begging for money from autocratic regimes. The Liberals are almost totally indistinguishable from Harper Tories.

# ? Jun 5, 2017 20:43

Dreylad: Jun 19, 2001

Mr Luxury Yacht posted:

IIRC it's usually only really research-based programs that have really any student funding and I'm not sure all OISE programs are (website says the package is only for PhD and "non-professional" masters), but if it's in line with the other faculties it's generally around 15K per year with tuition covered. If you TA (which you should/might be forced to) you can get topped up to 17k and different faculties have rules on whether TAing is part of your funding package or extra on top.

So yeah, get roommates since that'll basically cover only rent in Toronto in a one bedroom or bachelor if you're lucky.

Good point, I just assumed OISE would have the same kind of funding as U of T. My mistake!

# ? Jun 5, 2017 20:45

Postess with the Mostest: Apr 4, 2007; Arabian nights
'neath Arabian moons
A fool off his guard
could fall and fall hard
out there on the dunes

THC posted:

Fossil fuel death drive. Unpopular announcement made abroad. Begging for money from autocratic regimes. The Liberals are almost totally indistinguishable from Harper Tories.

Um no uh counterpoint

quote:

But speaking of those two things, the environment and the economy�They go together � they go together like paddles and canoes. If you don�t take care of both, you won�t get to where you are going. Because you can�t have a strong economy without a healthy environment. If we want to leave both to our children and grandchildren� If we want them to inherit clean air to breathe � clean water to drink and paddle, and a strong, vibrant, high-tech economy with good jobs � Well, We�ve got to do them both together. The world has changed in the past 10 years. Stephen Harper doesn�t get it.

# ? Jun 5, 2017 20:51

Reince Penis: Nov 15, 2007; by R. Guyovich

THC posted:

Fossil fuel death drive. Unpopular announcement made abroad. Begging for money from autocratic regimes. The Liberals are almost totally indistinguishable from Harper Tories.

You left out the subsidies. A quick google finds that Woodfibre already gets BC Hydro subsidized to the tune of 26m per year. Who knows what else.

# ? Jun 5, 2017 20:59

Juul-Whip: Mar 10, 2008

Yeah that's part of the death drive.

# ? Jun 5, 2017 21:01

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

my wife brought home a copy of this month's BC Business and it's loving hilarious. There's a big spread on the vitality of the movie industry with no mention of government subsidies at all

# ? Jun 5, 2017 21:01

Reince Penis: Nov 15, 2007; by R. Guyovich

Subsidizing the arts I can get behind.

Subsidizing natural resource extraction, fossil fuel extraction specifically?

:cmon:

# ? Jun 5, 2017 21:03

EvilJoven: Mar 18, 2005; NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?; Fun Shoe

Subsidizing the arts is good if it's art meant to be produced and consumed locally and in some way contribute to our society.

But when it's just some bland Hollywood movie filmed so you don't even know it involved our country unless you happened to recognize the neighbourhood, gently caress it, let them film somewhere else.

# ? Jun 5, 2017 21:06

Vintersorg: Mar 3, 2004; President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club

PK loving SUBBAN posted:

Scheer straight up trolling half his party at the Press Gallery dinner lol

Straight up alt-right nazi dogwhistle.

What a fucker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTy6f_HyuQU

# ? Jun 5, 2017 21:08

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

art like halle berry's cat woman and the blade franchise

# ? Jun 5, 2017 21:08

Reince Penis: Nov 15, 2007; by R. Guyovich

EvilJoven posted:

Subsidizing the arts is good if it's art meant to be produced and consumed locally and in some way contribute to our society.

But when it's just some bland Hollywood movie filmed so you don't even know it involved our country unless you happened to recognize the neighbourhood, gently caress it, let them film somewhere else.

I'll disagree, because it provides lots of good paying local jobs. Those tradespeople live locally, spend locally and pay taxes locally. It's a good investment.

# ? Jun 5, 2017 21:08

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

and then when the CAD increases to 'unsustainable' levels and all the studios leave then we still have a highly trained white trash workforce that will

# ? Jun 5, 2017 21:10

infernal machines: Oct 11, 2012; we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Vintersorg posted:

Straight up alt-right nazi dogwhistle.

What a fucker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTy6f_HyuQU

Weird how this just keeps "accidentally" happening with absolutely every conservative candidate all of a sudden.

What an unlikely series of coincidences.

# ? Jun 5, 2017 21:13

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# ? May 14, 2024 14:51

namaste friends: Sep 18, 2004; by Smythe

scheer is too loving stupid to harness the white power vote to his advantage. stop acting like he's some sort of bannon genius

# ? Jun 5, 2017 21:15

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