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well why not posted:lmao starting at 'just' $4999. Well it would cost $7000+ if you built it yourself sans monitor so you see
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eames posted:That iMac pro is Apple's My fear is when this sells poorly they'll say "See, nobody wants a Pro-focused workstation system!" and then cancel the new new Mac Pro.
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to all the complaining "prosumers", although I'm pretty sure it'll cost $10k maxed out.
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So do the new MBPs get Kaby Lake or just a frequency bump and faster SSD?
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enojy posted:Well it would cost $7000+ if you built it yourself sans monitor so you see litterally have a 7 thousand dollar pc here for a C level to run excel, this is a loving bargain.
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eames posted:So do the new MBPs get Kaby Lake or just a frequency bump and faster SSD? It's Kaby Lake across the whole Mac lineup.
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Tab8715 posted:It's Kaby Lake across the whole Mac lineup. even the Macbook Air? 
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eames posted:So do the new MBPs get Kaby Lake or just a frequency bump and faster SSD? If they have the onboard H265 decoding, they have to be Kaby. I don't think Skylake has that capability.
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bobfather posted:If they have the onboard H265 decoding, they have to be Kaby. I don't think Skylake has that capability. Polaris does, even 2016 15" MBPs support it.  As for the iMac Pro, that's a 160W TDP CPU and Vega was pictured with two 8-pin connectors so probably around 400W TDP right behind the screen in a form factor originally designed for laptop hardware. 
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Jun 5, 2017 19:06
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All my new PC parts are at home and I'm honestly feeling okay about the change. The new iMacs are nice, but not that nice.
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eames posted:Polaris does, even 2016 15" MBPs support it. Those new fans have their loving work cut out for them.
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The iMac Pro is impressive and yet really, really dumb.
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Jun 5, 2017 19:23
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As a non computer guy, why is it dumb?
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I took a screencap, it mentions a 500W PSU so 400W TDP is probably not far off.
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GoldfishStew posted:As a non computer guy, why is it dumb? it's gonna be pretty hot running which may be an issue for it's longevity and end up being subject to a lot of fan noise
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GoldfishStew posted:As a non computer guy, why is it dumb? 1) Lots of Apple's long-time customers are mad about the last Mac Pro being hard to maintain and upgrade because of its design, and this is even worse 2) General risk of it literally catching on fire (or at least hard drives or other hardware dying prematurely) because of all that high-end stuff crammed behind a metal shell with tiny vents
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Jun 5, 2017 19:31
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I'm not too worried about apple vertically integrating a discreet GPU,18 core CPU, and mitigating heat. They're targeting small periods of high-compute times, like compiling and encoding.
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Jun 5, 2017 19:33
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So make an awesome Hackintosh instead. The great thing about the iMac Pro is that it makes support for expensive Xeons and unreleased Vega parts a certainty for at least the next 3-4 years.
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Jun 5, 2017 19:33
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The actual standalone New Mac Pro is coming next year. If the single-socket iMac is starting at $4999, I fear for what the new multi-socket box will cost.
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incoherent posted:I'm not too worried about apple vertically integrating a discreet GPU,18 core CPU, and mitigating heat. They're targeting small periods of high-compute times, like compiling and encoding. yeah nothing to worry about because their last vertically integrated thermal solution left them so much headroom 
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kefkafloyd posted:multi-socket box The hell do people use more than 18 cores for in a workstation that isn't on the GPU?
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Roadie posted:2) General risk of it literally catching on fire (or at least hard drives or other hardware dying prematurely) because of all that high-end stuff crammed behind a metal shell with tiny vents oh brother
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kefkafloyd posted:The actual standalone New Mac Pro is coming next year. If the single-socket iMac is starting at $4999, I fear for what the new multi-socket box will cost. Eh, a chunk of that is the display. I'd expect the new Mac Pro to be in the $3000 - $3500 range for the base model.
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How butt hurt should I be about buying a 2016 15" tbmbp last month? I like mine a lot so I've been avoiding the keynote.
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Housh posted:How butt hurt should I be about buying a 2016 15" tbmbp last month? Is it within 30 days of purchase? If so you can just take it back no questions asked.
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wdarkk posted:The hell do people use more than 18 cores for in a workstation that isn't on the GPU? I didn't see anywhere they're doing dual sockets. I suspect that will be the districting mac PRO feature (along with dual GPUs).
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Is there a 15" non-touchbar MBP already ffs
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incoherent posted:I didn't see anywhere they're doing dual sockets. I suspect that will be the districting mac PRO feature (along with dual GPUs). I'm wondering if they'll bother with it at all for the Mac Pro. I mean, 18 cores is a lot. If you can use 36 cores, isn't your program better off on the GPU?
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wdarkk posted:The hell do people use more than 18 cores for in a workstation that isn't on the GPU? Virtual machines, video rendering tasks, audio tasks... Give someone a dual socket machine that supports dual GPUs and they'll find something to do with it.
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wdarkk posted:I'm wondering if they'll bother with it at all for the Mac Pro. I mean, 18 cores is a lot. If you can use 36 cores, isn't your program better off on the GPU? That's why I'm worried about sales of the iMac Pro and the impact on the Mac Pro redevelopment.
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The 120 Hz variable refresh rate display in the iPad is great news for Macs as it'll trickle down (sigh) eventually.
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Luceo posted:Is there a 15" non-touchbar MBP already ffs I just built a PC. Apparently everything in Tomb has those glass areas like on Botanist. It's time for our MBPs to rest.
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Arivia posted:I just built a PC. Apparently everything in Tomb has those glass areas like on Botanist. It's time for our MBPs to rest. No ma'am! It still lives, and can hang on until Apple sells me what I want to buy!
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I'm still using a 2009 Mac Pro with frankenflashed video cards.
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Roadie posted:I'm still using a 2009 Mac Pro with frankenflashed video cards. Luceo and I have identical non-Retina 2012 MBPs with the 650Ms. It's just painful to play WoW on now. He has probably kept his in better shape though.
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Arivia posted:Luceo and I have identical non-Retina 2012 MBPs with the 650Ms. It's just painful to play WoW on now. He has probably kept his in better shape though. Mine's doing alright in WoW, and not even on the lowest settings. Only things like Withered J'im's fog effect storm really drag it down to unplayable  levels. This laptop's been such a trooper, but goddamn I wish Apple would sell something that I want.edit: Then again, I barely play at all these days 
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Luceo posted:Mine's doing alright in WoW, and not even on the lowest settings. Only things like Withered J'im;s fog effect storm really drag it down to unplayable Yeah I'm just tired and want all the time. Doom with 60 fps locked at 1080p Ultra mmmmphEdit: and I'm still raiding and my partner has been waiting not so patiently to play a bunch of games that don't work on MacOS. It's just time for me I think.
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Arivia posted:Luceo and I have identical non-Retina 2012 MBPs with the 650Ms. It's just painful to play WoW on now. He has probably kept his in better shape though. Not an MBP, I mean, but one of the 40-pound boxes. I've got plenty of and have basically no reason to even think about buying another machine yet.
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Arivia posted:Yeah I'm just tired and want Fair Windows and Following Seas, goon friendo.
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