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Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Jazerus posted:

everyone in the game is a shithead with a bad ideology one way or another, it's not like there were any space bernies to side with

so i'm not sure it's "you can't trust literally anybody's ideology" so much as "wow, look at how hosed up all these folks are, none of 'em are good"

"Everyone is bad and not to be trusted" is the ultimate root of all right-wing ideology.

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Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Tight Booty Shorts posted:

By the way I have no faith that people like you who work for the DNC will not be absolutely gushing about whatever corporate stooge obama decides to force to run in 2020, and that includes The Zuck

I see you missed Venom Snake's redemption arc.

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

why not? you've been 0 for 3, let's see if we can maintain a perfect record.

Look pal my gimmick is being as optimistic as possible because someone ITT needs to be an optimistic progressive to drown out the endless cynical lemon grabbing

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
for the record I don't like Perez and from the beginning Iv said that Ellison should have been chair (since he has actual electoral experience) but you can't look at that utterly shook, sweating, gasping stick man and tell me that he's not collapsing like peter dauo on a 70 degree NY day

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008


they simply cannot stop harping about the lake house, it's uncanny

the pure :ironicat: in this tweet w/r/t using the same tactics against his ideological enemies that he :qq:s about when they're used against the Obamas or Clintons is unbelievable

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
https://twitter.com/eclecticbrotha/status/871792797082320901

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler

Venom Snake posted:

for the record I don't like Perez and from the beginning Iv said that Ellison should have been chair (since he has actual electoral experience) but you can't look at that utterly shook, sweating, gasping stick man and tell me that he's not collapsing like peter dauo on a 70 degree NY day

bad candidate who can only win elections in the heart of deep blue cities, sad!

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

loquacius posted:

they simply cannot stop harping about the lake house, it's uncanny

the pure :ironicat: in this tweet w/r/t using the same tactics against his ideological enemies that he :qq:s about when they're used against the Obamas or Clintons is unbelievable

The hypocrisy game!

A: This person was criticizing my side for X, but now she's doing it!
B: Oh, you weren't mad about X when your guy was doing it, but now you are?

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008


I don't even know what this guy is mad about, these are three paragraphs of fact :confused:

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

The Muslim fearmongering is still my "favorite" part of the DNC chair stuff.

Like that was definitely A Thing that should be coming from the supposedly progressive party.

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

loquacius posted:

they simply cannot stop harping about the lake house, it's uncanny

the pure :ironicat: in this tweet w/r/t using the same tactics against his ideological enemies that he :qq:s about when they're used against the Obamas or Clintons is unbelievable

cant we just shove you both in ur lockers

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Zoran posted:

The hypocrisy game!

A: This person was criticizing my side for X, but now she's doing it!
B: Oh, you weren't mad about X when your guy was doing it, but now you are?

I don't think that many people were even mad at Obama for buying that mansion and all the LOCK HER UP people were actually maga chuds so I am safe from hypocrisy this time :colbert:

Gene Hackman Fan
Dec 27, 2002

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Venom Snake posted:

Look pal my gimmick is being as optimistic as possible because someone ITT needs to be an optimistic progressive to drown out the endless cynical lemon grabbing

with the likes of zeggermansy and cloisonne citibank posting, why do you think optimism will find purchase in this rocky, salt-sown landscape of the democratic party?

outside the thread, be optimistic as hell. inside, it's funnier (and let's be honest, more socially acceptable) to be a nihilist.

but in the interests of disclosure, i'm more into camus-style absurdism, myself.

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

ME1 was the best written of the series I think, but gently caress ever playing it again. ME2 had much better gameplay and the characters were fun and likeable. The plot was also decent, since you had this whole 'bond with your teammates' that led into the 'potential suicide mission' thing. It didn't really fit very well with the broader Reaper story though, since who the poo poo cares about one baby Reaper when the galaxy is about to get invaded by a massive fleet of em, but it was fun as its own story. ME3 was fun and enjoyable, and even the ending wasn't that bad so long as you realize the only ending that 'fits' is control because Shepherd is not only indoctrinated by that point, but becoming an immortal machine god is self evidently the best choice.

Andromeda looks pretty trash and I don't have patience for open world games anymore. Ive heard its super fun to actually play though.

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



theres really no need to settle for bioware games anymore

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
i have been moving and also the last month has been godawful and my favorite candidate dropped out early, so i kinda put off looking at NJ Dem primary candidates really in depth until uh, now.

i've been on a candidate watching binge and i have opinions

Jim Johnson (or is that john jimson) -
pros: big ethics reform person, i like everything he wants to do on this subject. wants to bring back estate tax :getin:
cons: nothing much about healthcare other than "fight donny", education funding is great but doesn't talk about college, considers his favorite town to be seaside heights WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU

Ray "Who?" Lesniak
pros: big environmental person, wants complete renewables by 2020 (which i think is a little... optimistic)
cons: doesn't go far enough on anything else, at all. a big believer in taking care of the olds, rather than :killing:

Phil "I Will Win" Murphy
pros: he's gonna win. direct funding to transportation please thank sweet jesus, this public bank seems interesting, increase taxes on rich
cons: he's gonna win. big time literal goldman sachs billionaire. wishy washing on healthcare, doesn't seem like he'll do much beyond nothing unless ACHA passes. takes the actual romney approach to healthcare in that regard, which i mean is fine i guess. reminds me of corzine.

John Wisniewski
pros: he is the berniebro in this election. has the entire policy suite ctrl-c from bernie's website. prosecuted bridgegate :fap:
cons: rutgers grad. i mentioned this before but he seems very ugh to me, like yeah his policies work, but he honestly runs around with something that resembles a prosecution complex and he seems very whiny. he might be a berniebro but bernie didn't even take the two minute tweet to endorse him, which is telling me something.

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Not a Step posted:

ME1 was the best written of the series I think, but gently caress ever playing it again. ME2 had much better gameplay and the characters were fun and likeable. The plot was also decent, since you had this whole 'bond with your teammates' that led into the 'potential suicide mission' thing. It didn't really fit very well with the broader Reaper story though, since who the poo poo cares about one baby Reaper when the galaxy is about to get invaded by a massive fleet of em, but it was fun as its own story. ME3 was fun and enjoyable, and even the ending wasn't that bad so long as you realize the only ending that 'fits' is control because Shepherd is not only indoctrinated by that point, but becoming an immortal machine god is self evidently the best choice.

Andromeda looks pretty trash and I don't have patience for open world games anymore. Ive heard its super fun to actually play though.

Plus andromeda has boobs

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/hundreds-of-walmart-employees-say-theyve-been-punished-for-taking-sick-days-vgtrn

quote:

Other employees have accused Walmart managers of refusing doctors' notes. Katie, an employee from Pennsylvania, said she was forced to go back to work despite her doctor telling her to stay home after having a miscarriage.

"Because of the serious and prolonged pain I was in after my miscarriage and the continued heavy bleeding I was experiencing, I went back to the doctor. The doctor told me that I had to rest for an additional week, and gave me a note stating that I needed about a week of additional recovery time. My manager wouldn't accept it," Katie says, according to the report. "I ended up receiving around six disciplinary points due to my miscarriage."


i wish dems didn't have an association with this scumbag corporation

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
wait john wisniewski wants to nuke port authority :bisonyes: but looking at his JERBS plan it's the most vague one out of the whole lot and that's saying a lot

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

Can u imagine claiming you're the most progressive candidate in history and u were a corporate lawyer for Walmart lmao

logikv9
Mar 5, 2009


Ham Wrangler
gonna be honest lesniak is looking p. good, he's a longtime senator so i'm hoping he would otherwise be a mini-LBJ and he seems alright and his crusade to gently caress exxonmobil as hard as possible owns

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

lol calling Dave Weigal are bernie bro is a new low

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

logikv9 posted:

wait john wisniewski wants to nuke port authority :bisonyes: but looking at his JERBS plan it's the most vague one out of the whole lot and that's saying a lot

im voting for john but tbh as long as phil isn't total trash ill be happy

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

logikv9 posted:

Jim Johnson (or is that john jimson) -
pros: big ethics reform person, i like everything he wants to do on this subject. wants to bring back estate tax :getin:
cons: nothing much about healthcare other than "fight donny", education funding is great but doesn't talk about college, considers his favorite town to be seaside heights WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU

He's also affiliated with the Brennan Center for Justice, which I think does really great research & advocacy on voting rights / access & mass incarceration.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
it kinda sucks that the nj primary is between 3 seemingly good candidates and one really mediocre one and the mediocre one is going to win

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

anime was right posted:

it kinda sucks that the nj primary is between 3 seemingly good candidates and one really mediocre one and the mediocre one is going to win

New Jersey

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Gene Hackman Fan posted:

with the likes of zeggermansy and cloisonne citibank posting, why do you think optimism will find purchase in this rocky, salt-sown landscape of the democratic party?

outside the thread, be optimistic as hell. inside, it's funnier (and let's be honest, more socially acceptable) to be a nihilist.

but in the interests of disclosure, i'm more into camus-style absurdism, myself.

My optimism is derived from my faith in the democratic electorate; not the party. I place no trust in Perez or the useless babbling wallkicker democratic pundits but I believe for me personally I get really miserable and depressed when I get nihilistic. People like Bernie, Ellison, and Corbyn have obviously not given up hope in the progressive cause so I don't the reason to give up either.

Jewel Repetition
Dec 24, 2012

Ask me about Briar Rose and Chicken Chaser.

Jeb! Repetition posted:

"Everyone is bad and not to be trusted" is the ultimate root of all right-wing ideology.

On second thought that's the root of all authoritarian ideology, not right-wing ideology, but Kotor2 still had the stuff about charity making people weak and dependent so my point still stands.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
https://twitter.com/AlGiordano/status/871739772351467522

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

That Goddamn Bernie Sanders, writing things folks want to read

Lessail
Apr 1, 2011

:cry::cry:
tell me how vgk aren't playing like shit again
:cry::cry:
p.s. help my grapes are so sour!

These people are insane

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

Lessail posted:

These people are insane

"how dare you get upset at obama for making 400k for a single wall street speech"

"wow, bernie sanders made money? evil, evil man!"

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
the three house thing is hysterical because, again, the clintons have owned 3 houses for two decades and no one gives them poo poo for that lol

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Dems could run on enforcing sick leave and cracking down on wage theft and win everything all the time.

white sauce
Apr 29, 2012

by R. Guyovich

anime was right posted:

"how dare you get upset at obama for making 400k for a single wall street speech"

"wow, bernie sanders made money? evil, evil man!"

((((Bernie)))) and his Muslim friend Keith grifting their poor constituents. Those bastards.

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

anime was right posted:

"how dare you get upset at obama for making 400k for a single wall street speech"

"wow, bernie sanders made money? evil, evil man!"

the extent to which folks like the quoted dipshits ignore why people are mad about obama's wall st. speech (with the reason being right there) is honestly a little amazing.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool

Oh Snapple! posted:

the extent to which folks like the quoted dipshits ignore why people are mad about obama's wall st. speech (with the reason being right there) is honestly a little amazing.

im glad he got a super nice book deal. thats a seriously excellent way for presidents to make money after leaving office.

Oh Snapple!
Dec 27, 2005

While the book deal money is kind of spurious given the context of his admin approving that publisher merger, I also don't really have a problem with it because his and Michelle's writing will absolutely sell.

Bear Retrieval Unit
Nov 5, 2009

Mudslide Experiment

"A true socialist would print the book with his own money and give it out for free" I continue to insist as my abuela and Obama get 6 figures for a single speech.

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Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

when he himself was made of capitalism

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