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Olesh posted:I'm not really sure what you want to happen in this situation? It is actually very difficult for survivors to stay hidden, especially when Jason is investigating the area. Simply being near Jason is enough to start raising your fear. Hiding in a building doesn't stop the building from lighting up to Sense - all it does is buy the survivor a little time forcing Jason to check beds and listen for the survivor to either freak out because they didn't hold their breath or exhale because you can't hold your breath for more than a few moment. I guess my frustration is, what am I supposed to do in that situation? It feels wrong that my best option at that point is to tediously go one by one through houses and hiding spots. Though if you're right that just being near the counselor's hiding spot is enough to get their fear up and make the house start lighting up on Sense (I've yet to actually be in that situation myself, so I don't know how it works), that would make things a little more bearable. TheAnomaly posted:break the power boxes. If the cabin doesn't have light, then they will slowly gain fear. If they're in a cabin on a stealth character when the lights go out, then you'll likely hear them say something. I went through and broke all the power boxes pretty early on, which nobody ever fixed. If it's already dark, and they get into a hiding spot, will their fear still go up?
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Carebearz posted:because pubbies Accurate. This was the game where I needed up muting the dude for being obnoxious. Pubbies are either awesome or terrible and I keep getting dumped into games with terrible ones
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joylessdivision posted:It's been repeated a billion times and I'm really not sure where it started because most of the slashers of the 80s (at least early on) were fairly lily white as far as cast is concerned. I've been looking for this mythical "Black guy dies first" movie but I honestly can't remember a single one where it's happened. There's a bunch in a list here, but none are that iconic to me. http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlackDudeDiesFirst
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Burkion posted:I really hope they get to all of the DLC.
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Hockles posted:There's a bunch in a list here, but none are that iconic to me. Yeah I could maybe give Alien or The Shining the nod there, but I've always heard it in reference to slashers. Then again they completely ignored the blaxslpotation movies of the 70's, and Blackula starts with the leads death. loving TV Tropes. BBTW Blackula is way better than a movie called Blackula has any right to be.
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joylessdivision posted:It's been repeated a billion times and I'm really not sure where it started because most of the slashers of the 80s (at least early on) were fairly lily white as far as cast is concerned. I've been looking for this mythical "Black guy dies first" movie but I honestly can't remember a single one where it's happened. There's Scream 2, but I'm pretty sure it only happens there because of the "black guy dies first" rule. There are a lot of horror tropes--I hate using the word, but sometimes it's the only one for the job--that don't actually reflect the movies at all, but sprang into existence from popular imagination or some offhand joke. F13 may have created the formula for the American slasher movie, but especially in the early installments, it almost never follows that formula.
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joylessdivision posted:Accurate. This was the game where I needed up muting the dude for being obnoxious. Pubbies are fixed that for you.
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Wanderer posted:There's Scream 2, but I'm pretty sure it only happens there because of the "black guy dies first" rule. The black character dying in every film is usually the cliche not that they are the first to go (at least how I learned it) What F13 did is just have the same ideas in every film they did. There is always a stoner character, the horny couple, the black guy, the nerd, etc. and it becomes so very obvious if you ever marathon the films like I did one Halloween.
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Justin Godscock posted:The black character dying in every film is usually the cliche not that they are the first to go (at least how I learned it) This. Strap in for a spergin boys: The Scream franchise was actively mocking the tropes of the genre while also playing into them. Which is why the first two movies are good (I'll defend the end of 2) and 3/4 go off the rails so hard. Friday set the template by blatantly ripping off Halloween (Victor Miller the screenwriter admits it) and then made crazy money for its budget. Which lead to the slashers bookm of the 80s. If you strip them down, it's a group of kids somewhere where adults can't help. Throw in a masked killer and you've got yourself an 80's slasher. The game nails the feeling of being in the last 20 minutes of a Friday movie when it's not a bunch of power gaming pubbies.
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Wanderer posted:There are a lot of horror tropes--I hate using the word, but sometimes it's the only one for the job--that don't actually reflect the movies at all, but sprang into existence from popular imagination or some offhand joke Jason never uses a chainsaw in any of the films, and yet most people think he uses one.
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joylessdivision posted:This. Strap in for a spergin boys: If you really want to nerd out about all this stuff, check out some 70's Italian horror, specifically Mario Bava and Dario Argento. The slasher boom of the 80's absolutely would not have existed if not for giallo. I'd be happy to list a few recommendations for anyone who's curious about delving into some of the more iconic of those films.
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Lurdiak posted:Jason never uses a chainsaw in any of the films, and yet most people think he uses one. He does get one used against him once though. Roy also gets one used against him. A lot of people tend to combine Jason and Leather Face for whatever reason. I guess because Leatherface using a chainsaw is really cool, while Leatherface himself is...not. He's a great character, but he's never been cool
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Burkion posted:A lot of people tend to combine Jason and Leather Face for whatever reason. I guess because Leatherface using a chainsaw is really cool, while Leatherface himself is...not. He's a great character, but he's never been cool Growing up, before I'd ever seen a Friday the 13th movie or Texas Chainsaw Massacre, my family used to go take these spooky Halloween hayrides where volunteers would pop out and scare you. Well, they ALWAYS had a guy with the Jason hockey mask, and he ALWAYS carried a chainsaw because the sound of it right next to the cart was really jarring and was great at scaring little kids, as opposed to just carrying a fake machete which wouldn't make any noise at all. I wonder if a lot of other people had similar experiences and ended up conflating the two characters because of that.
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So people who say they're good at killing Jason, what do you do when Jason just holds block? I've had whole teams try to clown on me and I kill them all just by blocking everything they do and whacking them until they die.
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Basebf555 posted:If you really want to nerd out about all this stuff, check out some 70's Italian horror, specifically Mario Bava and Dario Argento. The slasher boom of the 80's absolutely would not have existed if not for giallo. I'd be happy to list a few recommendations for anyone who's curious about delving into some of the more iconic of those films. Way ahead of you there. Love Argento despite his often flawed filmography, and Bava managed to make the sound of a dripping faucet deeply unnerving for a couple weeks after seeing Black Sabbath (the Italian cut is much better than the American cut) I was basically Randy from Scream through most of my late teens and early 20s.
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Mister Bup posted:So people who say they're good at killing Jason, what do you do when Jason just holds block? I've had whole teams try to clown on me and I kill them all just by blocking everything they do and whacking them until they die. holy poo poo, there's a block button? fml
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Basebf555 posted:Growing up, before I'd ever seen a Friday the 13th movie or Texas Chainsaw Massacre, my family used to go take these spooky Halloween hayrides where volunteers would pop out and scare you. Well, they ALWAYS had a guy with the Jason hockey mask, and he ALWAYS carried a chainsaw because the sound of it right next to the cart was really jarring and was great at scaring little kids, as opposed to just carrying a fake machete which wouldn't make any noise at all. I wonder if a lot of other people had similar experiences and ended up conflating the two characters because of that. I think it's one of those pop culture things where the hockey mask has become iconic for Jason, so whenever you see a character with a hockey mask you think Jason, while Leatherface and his Chainsaw are more easily pointed to by fans, lots of folks have never actually seen any of these movies. Hell, I was talking about the game to a friend and she mentioned she had to look up the plot of the first movie because she'd never seen any of them. Which seems crazy because I remember the big 3 slashers popping up on cable throughout the late 90's and 00s around Halloween time. Hell that's how I saw the Friday's for the first time before I just watched them all over the course of a couple weeks from Blockbuster. Also The Simpsons did the hockey mask/chainsaw bit during the episode where they go into witness protection.
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joylessdivision posted:That would have made for a much more interesting FvJ than what we actually got. Then again I'm all about survivor characters going kinda nuts and hunting down the villain. It goes off the rails pretty quick, but yeah, the premise is great.
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Lurdiak posted:It goes off the rails pretty quick, but yeah, the premise is great. Yeah that doesn't surprise me. Hell FvJ goes off the rails pretty quickly too. I'll give it credit, until the cornfield rave it's pretty good, and then it just spirals up its own rear end so hard that I've never been able to actually enjoy it. Jason Goes to Hell on the other hand is pretty dumb from jump and makes me love it. Plus Creighton Duke owns and I want him as DLC. 
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joylessdivision posted:I think it's one of those pop culture things where the hockey mask has become iconic for Jason, so whenever you see a character with a hockey mask you think Jason, while Leatherface and his Chainsaw are more easily pointed to by fans, lots of folks have never actually seen any of these movies. This movie certainly isn't helping anything either...  Starring: Trevor Moorhouse Spoilers: It's as bad as you think it would be.
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Sorry for not keeping on top of this. I tried to go through and find everyone, but I'm about 50 pages back now.Lasher posted:Xbox 1
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I don't like playing the "THIS GAME IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER" card, but I'm watching a let's play of the new Dead By Daylight DLC, and it doesn't...really seem to change up much of anything. Like, if Pam was made a killer for Friday, that would monumentally change how she had to be played. Manhattan would change how things work as well in a massive way.
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HOOLY BOOLY posted:So i had no idea this game had actually come out on consoles? Is this game worth going through the brokeness it supposedly has to be worth the $40? The OP makes it sound magical. It's a lot of fun on Xbone. Matchmaking is still broken but the looking for game feature makes it easy to fill up private lobbies quickly. The biggest problem is how often the game crashes or drops players. It feels like 1 out of every 4 games. Almost always right as the game is going to end so I don't get xp.
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Burkion posted:I don't like playing the "THIS GAME IS BETTER THAN THE OTHER" card, but I'm watching a let's play of the new Dead By Daylight DLC, and it doesn't...really seem to change up much of anything. Ideally yes, but not necessarily. Just because having an elderly woman get back up after repeated shots to the head with baseball bats and pipe wrenches is ridiculous doesn't mean they won't do it that way. Likewise with Manhattan, nothing stopping them from just making a map made up of a few city blocks where you can enter a certain limited number of buildings but the core gameplay remains the same. And when they say they're doing a Manhattan map, they probably mean they're doing a map from the movie Jason takes Manhattan, i.e. it will be a cruise ship. A big cruise ship with slightly different ways of escaping(lifeboats, call the cost guard, etc.) seems more likely to me than an actual city map in Manhattan.
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Carebearz posted:holy poo poo, there's a block button? fml Hit C to go into combat stance, RMB to block (works on counselors and Jason).
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Manhattan should let you hide in trash cans and dumpsters and come up with a new way for Jason to kill you in them. Maybe decapitation via dumpster lid?
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No idea if Central park is in manhattan. I just know it's new york. And I'm pissing myself off again thinking of that drat film and what a god drat waste of potential it was!
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Lasher posted:No idea if Central park is in manhattan. I just know it's new york. And I'm pissing myself off again thinking of that drat film and what a god drat waste of potential it was! Yes, it's in Manhattan. There's a reason it's called CENTRAL Park.
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Lasher posted:No idea if Central park is in manhattan. I just know it's new york. And I'm pissing myself off again thinking of that drat film and what a god drat waste of potential it was! Someone needs to play the Spider-Man 2 movie tie-in game. 
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Basebf555 posted:Ideally yes, but not necessarily. Just because having an elderly woman get back up after repeated shots to the head with baseball bats and pipe wrenches is ridiculous doesn't mean they won't do it that way. Likewise with Manhattan, nothing stopping them from just making a map made up of a few city blocks where you can enter a certain limited number of buildings but the core gameplay remains the same. Cruise ship and Manhattan itself are supposed to be two separate maps according to devs a while back
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chitoryu12 posted:Maybe decapitation via dumpster lid? He just needs to do that body slam that he currently has, but you go into the trash can head first and your feet are left sticking out. Possibly still twitching, but maybe that's asking too much?
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Manhattan Map Preview: "Press 'e' to flood the sewers Tommy you dumbass!!!"
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Skoll posted:Yes, it's in Manhattan. There's a reason it's called CENTRAL Park. I didn't know Manhattan was in the middle of new york? But hey, we can do it then. I dunno what stops the kids from just leaving, like. Haha.
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Lasher posted:I didn't know Manhattan was in the middle of new york? It's in the center of Manhattan. It would probably be a maze of alleyways and interiors accessed through side doors.
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Manhattan is just such a dumb place for Jason. To me at least Jason was always the campfire story come to life, same thing with The Burning and Cropsy. Putting him in Manhattan or turning him into a xenomorph or whatever the gently caress part 9 was supposed to be kind of kills. Also remember that thing where some streamers lost their perks after the new update? Turns out that wasn't a bug, it was an exploit that lets you spoof people's steam ID and manipulate their inventory. Now it's gotten out enough salty babies are doing it to anybody who beats them. Don't play right now. Edit: VVVV This also. Teenagers out in an idyllic campground for their last youthful romp before the drudgery of adulthood is the perfect setting for Jason. Whereas in 80s Manhattan a teleporting undead serial killer is barely newsworthy. It's not the same. Mister Bup fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Jun 5, 2017 |
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chitoryu12 posted:It's in the center of Manhattan. Not just Manhattan, but 1980s Manhattan, which was a very, very not safe place. Times Square especially.
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Mister Bup posted:Manhattan is just such a dumb place for Jason. To me at least Jason was always the campfire story come to life, same thing with The Burning and Cropsy. Putting him in Manhattan or turning him into a xenomorph or whatever the gently caress part 9 was supposed to be kind of kills. PC Master Race
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Mister Bup posted:Manhattan is just such a dumb place for Jason. To me at least Jason was always the campfire story come to life, same thing with The Burning and Cropsy. Putting him in Manhattan or turning him into a xenomorph or whatever the gently caress part 9 was supposed to be kind of kills. Only play with goons maybe
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