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And More posted:Not sure what you thought would be achieved by those spoiler tags. At least it's not really a spoiler
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mallratcal posted:I didn't notice Odin's eye until episode 3. I could be wrong but I don't think it was as obvious earlier on. Who is odin? This more book poo poo?
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The insane background jazz soundtrack got a little overpowering in the scene where they were supposed to be having a quiet amd tense conversation with Vulcan. Also confused about why CG Gun Town had nazi armbands?
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VagueRant posted:Also confused about why CG Gun Town had nazi armbands? They were "Nazi-esque." They bore the logo of the arms maker, not a swastika...but given the looks Shadow was getting, the message was pretty clear.
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Sickening posted:Who is odin? This more book poo poo? Watch last week's episode. Specifically the part in the interrogation room.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:They were "Nazi-esque." They bore the logo of the arms maker, not a swastika...but given the looks Shadow was getting, the message was pretty clear. I'm being flippant. It was just so weirdly heavy handed as to be confusing. Just would've thought making it look like a totally normal town but with everyone carrying guns and staring at the dark-skinned guy would be the more resounding point to make. (US Christians shooting Jesus for being on the wrong side of the border had all the grace and subtlety of a hammerfist but it got the point across!) The Nazi imagery seemed really cloudy and half-baked. And Vulcan's hateboner for Shadow was weird too. Was the implication that the god of fire/guns was...stoking the flames of racial hatred...to make scared gun owners shoot black people...? Never mind, he's dead now. Whatever that means. But erm, it obviously means something despite that unedited replay of Vulcan's name being stamped on every bullet...because Wednesday said he put a curse on the plant...by pissing in the furnace??? Mad Sweeney and Laura's bants really saved the episode for me.
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I think since Vulcan was a product of his people's beliefs, it makes sense that he hates/fears black people because his believers do too. The Nazi imagery was way heavy-handed though, I agree. It would have been funny to make him vaguely homoerotic considering his believers' love of handling hot metall poles.
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Sickening posted:Who is odin? This more book poo poo? Spoiler alert: they have overtly named this character in every episode since #2...
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Sickening posted:Who is odin? This more book poo poo? Just because you didn't pick up on the glaringly obvious, explicitly stated things that are happening in the show doesn't mean it's "book poo poo."
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I know the fly is just visual shorthand to remind us that she's rotting and probably still not over her self destruction, but I keep thinking back to Beelzebub in Sandman and I'm expecting demons to show up. But it's a good thing we have Lucifer so we can explore that universe hahahahaha great job Fox!
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When there's a widespread belief in a personal Jesus, you're going to end up with a lot of personalized variations of Jesus. Beyond race, they ought to be ideologically differentiated, too. Now what really bakes me is the trinitarian issue. We saw a Latin-American Jesus, one of the biblical sons of God YHWH, struck down again by the sins of man. But did we also see God the Son, con-substantial with the Father and Holy Spirit, who will, on the last of the Last Days, come into his full glory and neverending kingdom on Earth?
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Mad Sweeny aka Leprechaun Job is the real star of this show
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I think it's supposed to be less racial tension and more of a reflection of how insular Vulcan's America is (and how it's necessary to support him) and how Shadow doesn't 'fit' (more ideologically, less ethnically) into that version of America. Wednesday just doesn't give a gently caress and/or is above it, but because Shadow is super on edge, everyone else is on edge around him as a defense mechanism. Shadow is rejecting of Vulcan's America, so Vulcan fucks with Shadow.
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An insular society is going to have unfriendly mores about race even if there are no explicitly supremacist creeds. Like Compe Anansi was saying, they think they're people and everyone else is someone to point a gun at.etalian posted:Mad Sweeny aka Leprechaun Job is the real star of this show That's Audrey's role, tho.
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e X posted:Mad Sweeney He is the true protagonist of the show. Shadow is just along for the ride.
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SpookyLizard posted:I think it's supposed to be less racial tension and more of a reflection of how insular Vulcan's America is (and how it's necessary to support him) and how Shadow doesn't 'fit' (more ideologically, less ethnically) into that version of America. Wednesday just doesn't give a gently caress and/or is above it, but because Shadow is super on edge, everyone else is on edge around him as a defense mechanism. Shadow is rejecting of Vulcan's America, so Vulcan fucks with Shadow. No, it's good-ole' fashioned American racism. The show loving bludgeons you over the head with it.
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SpookyLizard posted:I think it's supposed to be less racial tension and more of a reflection of how insular Vulcan's America is (and how it's necessary to support him) and how Shadow doesn't 'fit' (more ideologically, less ethnically) into that version of America. Wednesday just doesn't give a gently caress and/or is above it, but because Shadow is super on edge, everyone else is on edge around him as a defense mechanism. Shadow is rejecting of Vulcan's America, so Vulcan fucks with Shadow. Technical Boy alt account spotted
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Sickening posted:Who is odin? This more book poo poo? Its been getting progressively more obvious and now its been straight up confirmed. Wednesday. Wotan. Grimnir. I think Peter Stormare called him Odin at one point already, but it was on the side of the missile clear as day. And Sweeny confirmed he's a god, and which god has one eye and talks to ravens...
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My dad thought Mr. Wednesday was The Devil Edit: No, I won't buy him an account
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The single most disappointing thing about the technical boy is that he is literally smoking a synthetic toad skin and isn't vaping.
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It's not a spoiler that Ian McShane is Odin
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I just noticed that the sword Vulcan made for Wednesday has Yggdrasil on the blade near the hilt. A quick look around wikipedia showed that "yggdrasil" can mean "Odin's Gallows" which makes all the noose references make more sense. Also that Wednesday used the sword to slice Vulcan's neck.
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Cojawfee posted:I just noticed that the sword Vulcan made for Wednesday has Yggdrasil on the blade near the hilt. A quick look around wikipedia showed that "yggdrasil" can mean "Odin's Gallows" which makes all the noose references make more sense. Also that Wednesday used the sword to slice Vulcan's neck. A quick wiki search of Norse mythology will explain this. That or play CK2 with an Old Gods start! 
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SiKboy posted:The eye has been getting progressively more noticable as the series progresses, they went out their way for the light to hit his eyes and reflect differently from each one (I'm assuming McShane is wearing a contact). Both eyes moves which real glass eyes dont do as far as I know, but theres really a limited amount they could do about that. He mentions his single eye in the first episode.
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Sickening posted:Who is odin? This more book poo poo? It's a guidance satellite system.
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Ian McShane gets this pure, calculating, patient predator's expression on his face when he's listening to the wild, self-possessed gods like Mr. World and Vulcan ramble on about themselves and I really love it. Most of the time he comes across as this jovial, cuckoo old coot talking about love and magic and snow, and then there are these moments that show he's actually seeing things clearer than anyone else and is all the more dangerous for it. (It's this one:   )
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I love the look he gives after Mr. World mentions how many people Shadow's mom banged in her life.
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OWLS! posted:But don't you know that Catholics aren't Christians? They invented it.
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SpookyLizard posted:The single most disappointing thing about the technical boy is that he is literally smoking a synthetic toad skin and isn't vaping. Who says you can't vape the secretions of toad skin? BrianWilly posted:Ian McShane gets this pure, calculating, patient predator's expression on his face when he's listening to the wild, self-possessed gods like Mr. World and Vulcan ramble on about themselves and I really love it. Most of the time he comes across as this jovial, cuckoo old coot talking about love and magic and snow, and then there are these moments that show he's actually seeing things clearer than anyone else and is all the more dangerous for it. The look as he's killing Vulcan and then the look as he's pissing on the forge 
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Rocksicles posted:They invented it. So we claim. Capntastic posted:My dad thought Mr. Wednesday was The Devil Gingerminge thought he was the devil, too.
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Rocksicles posted:They invented it.  https://twitter.com/Pontifex/status/872052954798444546 Pope Frank must really be into American Gods right now achillesforever6 fucked around with this message at 12:37 on Jun 6, 2017 |
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achillesforever6 posted:Uh according to this Jack Chick strip we didn't and in fact are in league with Satan to fool everyone into idol worshiping and the Catholic Church is nothing but a gushed up extension of the Pagan Roman Empire Religion
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Toplowtech posted:I fail to see why Jupiter being Jesus' father would be bad.
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Vulcan is basically what would become of Wednesday if had accepted the offer. A nice little retirement package, but nothing major.
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e X posted:Vulcan is basically what would become of Wednesday if had accepted the offer. A nice little retirement package, but nothing major. Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 14:29 on Jun 6, 2017 |
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Wednesday's retirement package would have been swankier than Vulcan's, though. You definitely cannot buy off the allfather with a rustbelt town empty of busty blonde babes with veiny mammories.
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Interesting that this episode ended with the god Allah. I wonder if and how that's going to be handled? Or will the Djinn be the only Islamic deity-thing we see?
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