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im also just not even sure its true, no ones ever made that same choice as a in his prime mvp to join a team that was just in the finals. its such a brilliant career move i wonder what in the arithmetic has been so different for so many other peopleLockback posted:I've known lots of people who left good jobs for better jobs because it was the best move, I've never known that phrase to have any sort of disgrace or anything. im not really married to defending my personal connotations of that phrase in this context. lets just agree im wrong about it
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Time posted:*gives chunkles the nod saying get over here* actually, if you look at this graph 📈, it says the rockets are the best 🚀 🚀 🚀 if you'll look at graph #43, you'll see that playing defense has a high correlation with being a chump who can't grow facial hair or worse, being a san antonio spur. quod erat demonstrandum
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My only problem with Durant is I believed he really believed all the family stuff he said and was disappointed that in that it was just business and basketball like it was for everyone else, but it's hard to blame a guy too much for just being a normal person especially with the Thunder making sure to remind him that it's just a business over and over again.
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Time posted:Kevin Durant's biggest crime was betraying my friend metapod, and for that he is now my enemy Poor Metapod.
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Having fun being mad at the heel
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chunkles posted:if you'll look at graph #43, you'll see that playing defense has a high correlation with being a chump who can't grow facial hair or worse, being a san antonio spur. quod erat demonstrandum lol
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Metapod posted:why does everyone think this is the issue? Durant leaving is and was perfectly fine. The issue was HE WENT TO A TEAM THAT WON 73 GAMES THAT HE HAD A 3-1 ON IN THE WCF Thats cool to me
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:Having fun being mad at the heel Oh no it's a work
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sportsgenius86 posted:I believe it's possible to think that everything Durant did was a totally fair exploitation of the system and still think that he's a big bitchbaby coward for doing it. RCarr posted:No it literally was the best move. Using the word best doesn't have strings attached to it. Fast Luck fucked around with this message at 01:43 on Jun 6, 2017 |
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The Thunder didn't make much of a commitment to him in terms of winning a championship. They really have no one to blame but themselves. He wanted a championship and while he could have won one with the Thunder it was much easier to go to the Warriors where it was a lock as long as people stayed healthy.
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:Having fun being mad at the heel KD isn't a heel he's Roman Reigns not understanding why he's getting booed all the time
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Niwrad posted:The Thunder didn't make much of a commitment to him in terms of winning a championship. They really have no one to blame but themselves. Wtf is this revisionist history
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EvanTH posted:KD isn't a heel he's Roman Reigns not understanding why he's getting booed all the time Roman Reigns is a heel you silly boy, he's a heel to people who smarmy smarks who take wrestling way too seriously
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Metapod posted:Wtf is this revisionist history Trading James Harden because they didn't want to pay the luxury tax. They decided what was more important.
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Metapod posted:Wtf is this revisionist history Niwrad posted:Trading James Harden because they didn't want to pay the luxury tax. They decided what was more important. No, you see this wasn't extremely bad and one of the worst moves in NBA history because...
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it was pretty bad but he was not an mvp canidate at the time, its nowhere near one of the worst moves in nba history its probably not even top 10 *hopes 2 start list fight about worst nba moves*
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It was extremely bad then and it's only gotten worse over time and it's easily the worst deal in NBA history in retrospect.
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what else is in your top 10, a buff gay dude
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Probably the unprotected pick the celts will use on fultz and the Barkley trade but I'm watching hockey now and don't wanna think of 7 more
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The Lillard trade was really bad. Nets traded their lottery pick for half a season of Gerald Wallace who was going to be an UFA at the end of the season. The Nets were not in playoff contention either.
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Niwrad posted:Trading James Harden because they didn't want to pay the luxury tax. They decided what was more important. Yep one move in 2012 defines the entire franchise forever. The actually paying the luxury tax, going after vets, and trades after that mean absolutely nothing
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Rick posted:My only problem with Durant is I believed he really believed all the family stuff he said and was disappointed that in that it was just business and basketball like it was for everyone else, but it's hard to blame a guy too much for just being a normal person especially with the Thunder making sure to remind him that it's just a business over and over again. Chris Paul, David West, and Tyson Chandler went through that same thing once the Hornets attempted to trade Chandler away to OKC.
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the nets traded the house for a 200 year old kg and a only good enough to single handedly beat the raptors paul pierce i think it might win out on trading your 6th man away
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Metapod posted:Yep one move in 2012 defines the entire franchise forever. The actually paying the luxury tax, going after vets, and trades after that mean absolutely nothing I mean it does because it basically hosed them forever but you see it was the right decision in hindsight because...
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A Buff Gay Dude posted:It was extremely bad then and it's only gotten worse over time and it's easily the worst deal in NBA history in retrospect. Look at the trade that gave the Lakers Magic Johnson.
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Metapod posted:Yep one move in 2012 defines the entire franchise forever. The actually paying the luxury tax, going after vets, and trades after that mean absolutely nothing They had arguably the best young core in NBA history and gave it up because their billionaire owner with a taxpayer funded arena didn't want to pay the luxury tax. Panicking and giving Enes Kanter a max contract a few years later would probably not make up for that. That franchise showed where their loyalties lied when it mattered. Only when Durant was on the verge of leaving did they suddenly care about winning.
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Isn't lebron basically the reason why that luxury tax thing was an issue in the first place
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https://www.quora.com/How-did-the-Lakers-get-to-draft-Magic-Johnson-in-1979-and-James-Worthy-in-1982quote:In 1976 the New Orleans Jazz signed Gail Goodrich away from the Lakers. League rules at the time required one team to compensate another for signing away veteran players. As compensation, the Jazz and the Lakers traded a handful of picks, including the New Orleans’ first-round pick in 1979.[1]
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Libertine posted:I mean it does because it basically hosed them forever but you see it was the right decision in hindsight because... Did I say it was the correct decision? Have I ever said it was the correct decision? No because it wasn't. But that doesn't mean a franchise is not committed to winning a championship cause get this they probably make it back to the championship in 13 if not for bev
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Niwrad posted:They had arguably the best young core in NBA history and gave it up because their billionaire owner with a taxpayer funded arena didn't want to pay the luxury tax. Panicking and giving Enes Kanter a max contract a few years later would probably not make up for that. That's why they went after pau? That's why they kepted signing players like dfish and caron butler because they didn't care about winning?
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It isn't as high profile as the Harden trade because of the teams involved but let us not forget about the Kings/76ers trade from like 3 years ago where the Kings cleared a heap of cap room (to sign players who then went elsewhere) and threw in Stauskas and a first round pick just because http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/1/8882061/kings-nik-stauskas-carl-landry-jason-thompson-trade-76ers
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i think indicting them for their coaching and inability to find good role players when other championship teams just churn through them makes more sense
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Metapod posted:That's why they went after pau? That's why they kepted signing players like dfish and caron butler because they didn't care about winning? So they weren't cheap? Just grossly incompetent?
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I can't wait for when people start saying KD could never get to the playoffs in OKC They already kinda ignore that he was MVP with them
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EMC posted:It isn't as high profile as the Harden trade because of the teams involved but let us not forget about the Kings/76ers trade from like 3 years ago where the Kings cleared a heap of cap room (to sign players who then went elsewhere) and threw in Stauskas and a first round pick just because http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/7/1/8882061/kings-nik-stauskas-carl-landry-jason-thompson-trade-76ers The most disastrous pick that no one talks about is the Clippers sending an unprotected 1st rounder to dump Baron Davis that ended up becoming Kyrie Irving A pick that was unprotected to salary dump with an amnesty on the horizon
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Lessail posted:I can't wait for when people start saying KD could never get to the playoffs in OKC I may be upset that there is no justice but what we make and that we will never have the power to make it because the cosmos was born broken, but discounting an MVP is just senseless.
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Clippers trading Baron Davis and the pick that won #1 and became Kyrie Irving for Mo Williams has got to be WAYYY up there in worst moves. And the trade was straight up out of spite for Baron Davis.
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actually you can discount derrick roses mvp and iggys finals mvp
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KD left OKC because the best player he ever played with was Thabo
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If you go back in time teams would give up 1st round picks like nothing. I remember the Bulls getting a 1st for Luc Longley and a 1st for Steve Kerr after the breakup of the Championship team. Longley had a hosed up ankle and I don't even think played for Phoenix. Krause was all-in on "the process". The Knicks giving up a bunch of assets for Carmelo when they could have just signed him as an UFA in the offseason.
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