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icantfindaname posted:Haven't the CDU coalitioned with the Greens in some state governments? In BW, but that doesn't count because it's in the south and southern greens are basically the same as the CDU but full of middle-aged homeowners with hillside properties instead of old homeowners with central/riverfront properties. e: also in like Hessen or somesuch i suppose suck my woke dick fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Jun 5, 2017 |
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results for the first round of the legislatives for french people living abroad (it takes place one week before the others) came. very low participation, EM crushed it, ending first in 9 out of 10 constituencies. the only constituency (Maghreb-West Africa) where they didn't end first has several candidates vying to be part of the presidential majority (the former official EM candidate got into trouble for supporting Polisario Front or something)
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julian assflange posted:http://mobile.francetvinfo.fr/polit...ter_2224079.amp only a 100 is less than expected
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LemonDrizzle posted:Juncker unloading on Trump over the Paris agreement withdrawal: Yeah the Germans are hyper-pissed about the climate accord and are leaking hardcore. Take some time today to read this long and extremely scorching piece in Der Spiegel today, which quotes extensively from the G8 meeting in Sicily and the NATO meeting in Brussels. quote:Still, it is likely that none of the G-7 heads of state and government expected the primitive brutality Trump would stoop to when announcing his withdrawal from the international community. Surrounded by sycophants in the Rose Garden at the White House, he didn't just proclaim his withdrawal from the climate agreement, he sowed the seeds of international conflict. His speech was a break from centuries of Enlightenment and rationality. The president presented his political statement as a nationalist manifesto of the most imbecilic variety. It couldn't have been any worse. quote:His speech was packed with make-believe numbers from controversial or disproven studies. It was hypocritical and dishonest. quote:Merkel's aim is that of creating an alliance against Trump. If she can't convince the U.S. president, her approach will be that of trying to isolate him. In Taormina, it was six countries against one. Should Trump not reverse course, she is hoping that the G-20 in Hamburg in July will end 19:1. Whether she will be successful is unclear. quote:Therein lies the absurdity of Trump's histrionics. Nothing would have been easier for the U.S. than to take part pro forma in United Nations climate-related negotiations while completely ignoring climate protection measures at home -- which Trump has been doing anyway since his election. It's a fine read, and the break between the EU and US with this president will be quite something.
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teen vogue resistance mind i think it's supposed to be ironic.
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Junior G-man posted:Yeah the Germans are hyper-pissed about the climate accord and are leaking hardcore. Take some time today to read this long and extremely scorching piece in Der Spiegel today, which quotes extensively from the G8 meeting in Sicily and the NATO meeting in Brussels. I used to believe I would grow up in a boring time as a child. If you'd have told me that by 2020 the EU-US relationship would have been on the rocks I'd have sneered haughtily.
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Kurtofan posted:teen vogue resistance It is fairly accurate about how much some papers love Macron. But L'Express did the same kind of stuff themselves: 
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Kassad posted:It is fairly accurate about how much some papers love Macron. But L'Express did the same kind of stuff themselves: "Le kid"? Are they comparing him to Henry McCarty, or to Jackie Coogan?
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Cat Mattress posted:"Le kid"? Are they comparing him to Henry McCarty, or to Jackie Coogan?
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the most boring parliament yeah for neoliberalism  hopefully the socialist party mps won't be macron stoo-hahahahaahahah
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Kurtofan posted:the most boring parliament
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Holy poo poo that PS slide if that's a true reflection.
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Toplowtech posted:Jackie Coogan, if it's the kid in the chaplin's silent movie, yeah He started as the Kid, he ended as Uncle Fester. Checks out. Kurtofan posted:the most boring parliament If someone told me one year ago that the Modem was expected to get 425 seats in Parliament, I'd have called a shrink.
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France gets a grand coalition of centrists, Germany has truly won
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:France gets a grand coalition of centrists, Germany has truly won Am teutschen Wesen soll die Welt genesen.
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https://twitter.com/Wahlrecht_de/status/872111020357148672 I love it.
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Me too but only because I'm kinda worried about who is going to be representing democracy and general liberal sanity now that U.S. broke up with that cool black guy, is on a massive bender for the next four years and is sending crazy I'm as left as they come but ultimately I am weak when enough stuff starts piling on oh god Mother Europe deliver us from this insanity covfefe Jesus Christ
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It looks like Italy will take a huge dump on everything anyway a year from now at the latest, though.
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Dont worry methane clathrates are exploding all over the North pole and a iceberg the Size of wales is about to sail on down the atlantic,italy will be the last thing on anyones mind next year.
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Speaking of Italy!  - We have a new electoral law. Sort of. It has the agreement of all the parties that matter (Democratic Party, Five Star Movement, Forza Italia [i.e. Berlusconi], Lega Nord), and will now be voted upon in Parliament. It's a "German Type Law" as follows: Votes are aggregated on a national basis, and a cutoff of 5% of the total is determined from that; the proportion of votes (minus the votes for the parties that don't make the cut) is then calculated on a regional basis, giving each party the respective proportion of parliament seats. Angelino Alfano (current Foreing Minister) is not happy about this, since his party (spun off from Dear Silvio's a while back) is projected to be below the cutoff. (Good loving riddance, if you ask me.) - Grillo supported this type of law against THE PEOPLE'S WILL, who had voted on an online vote in his blog against it. And he's now furiously backpedalling. - Napolitano (former President of the Republic) is against voting in Autumn, because "it undermines Italy's credibility at the national level." - Minor thing, but funny, just to make you realise what kind of buffoons the FSM are: on Saturday in Turin, during the Champions League final, somehow (nothing is clear yet) there was a mass panic in the main city square (where the big TV screens were set up) and about a thousand people were injured while running away. Since Turin's mayor is from the FSM, as soon as the "THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE INJURED" headlines started popping up, a FSM MP posted on Facebook screaming "IT'S NOT TRUE IT'S NOT TRUE IT'S A CONSPIRACY TO DISCREDIT THE MAYOR", only to have to backpedal a couple hours later. Current polls: Democratic Party and Five Star Movement tied at 29,2%; Lega Nord at 13,1%; Forza Italia at 12,6%; Fratelli D'Italia (fascists, btw) at 4,6%; the rest is "others". Note that with the proposed electoral law  there would be only four major parties in parliament, none holding an absolute majority  Please. Someone. Austria, Switzerland, Germany. Someone. Conquer us. Help us get rid of these buffoons 
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Fabulous Knight posted:It looks like Italy will take a huge dump on everything anyway a year from now at the latest, though. It's what Italy does. Paging Mikl to the thr- nevermind.
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ChainsawCharlie posted:Dont worry methane clathrates are exploding all over the North pole and a iceberg the Size of wales is about to sail on down the atlantic,italy will be the last thing on anyones mind next year. Don't forget about the volcano that will apparently kill anyone within 100 miles of Naples or whetever!
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Mikl posted:
Generous of a former President of the Republic to set up a really obvious joke so perfectly.
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Mikl posted:Current polls: Democratic Party and Five Star Movement tied at 29,2%; Lega Nord at 13,1%; Forza Italia at 12,6%; Fratelli D'Italia (fascists, btw) at 4,6%; the rest is "others". Note that with the proposed electoral law There hasn't been a party with an absolute majority of votes in Germany since the 1950's. Coalition governments are the norm here. I think it's difficult for countries to move from one electoral system where a majority is the rule to one where it's the exception. I hope it works out for you guys.
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forkboy84 posted:Generous of a former President of the Republic to set up a really obvious joke so perfectly. He's a President so nice, we elected him twice. Only President of the Republic to be elected twice into the office, though that's because the Parliament was having a (sometimes literal) slapfight on whom to elect and couldn't settle onto anyone, and even then they had to literally beg him to not refuse the re-election. And then two years later he resigned ("gently caress you all, I'm out, so long suckers!" - Giorgio Napolitano, probably).
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Torrannor posted:There hasn't been a party with an absolute majority of votes in Germany since the 1950's. Coalition governments are the norm here. I think it's difficult for countries to move from one electoral system where a majority is the rule to one where it's the exception. I hope it works out for you guys. Coalition governments were the norm in Italy until a while ago. As an aside, but that's probably unrelated, no government before 2005 ended its mandate, but instead they all got overturned by votes of no confidence, sometimes for incredibly petty reasons. Like for example: Romano Prodi's last government was predicated on a handful of votes from UDEUR, whose leader Mastella's wife was accused of some crimes. Mastella argued that paliamentary immunity also applied to family members of MPs, so his wife couldn't be charged, but the government (rightfully) told him otherwise, so he called for a vote of no confidence and overturned the government, giving us another Silvio government. Incidentally, because of that, Silvio was the one in charge when the 2008 economic crisis hit, and the reason why it took so long for the government to do something about the crisis ("What crisis? There's no crisis, the movie theatres are full of people!" - Silvio Berlusconi, 2009, actual words). What I'm saying is: for what I care, coalition governments can go eat a whole bag of dicks, it's been proven they do not work in this country. Give me a good ol' majority government anytime.
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Kurtofan posted:the most boring parliament I just want to die
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i mean i can't believe I'm saying this, but with numbers like these the loving senate is the only institution that could prevent macron from changing the constitution and naming himself emperor for life
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Flowers For Algeria posted:I just want to die
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Flowers For Algeria posted:i mean i can't believe I'm saying this, but with numbers like these the loving senate is the only institution that could prevent macron from changing the constitution and naming himself emperor for life Well, that and the elected representatives of the people, who would, presumably, not vote him emperor for live even if they are in his party.
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GaussianCopula posted:Well, that and the elected representatives of the people, who would, presumably, not vote him emperor for live even if they are in his party. You underestimate the zealotry of these folks and how fast they find themselves ready to embrace anything that their leader deems "modern" and "realistic" and "necessary"
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Flowers For Algeria posted:i mean i can't believe I'm saying this, but with numbers like these the loving senate is the only institution that could prevent macron from changing the constitution and naming himself emperor for life As any good neoliberal, Macron has a giganto-boner for the institutions of the state, if not for the state itself. He completely lacks the imagination to abuse his power for his own benefit. So instead, he'll cut open the social safety net and deregulate the labor laws to make his lovely friends richer. And nothing will improve. At one point, enough people will get angry, and it will blow up in his face. Whether that's Marine 2022 or a glorious revolution of the proletariat remains to be seen.
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ElNarez posted:As any good neoliberal, Macron has a giganto-boner for the institutions of the state, if not for the state itself. He completely lacks the imagination to abuse his power for his own benefit. You are saying that about the man that is one of the biggest sources of Hollande's government's policies, and who managed to make himself appear as the most viable alternative to them and become president.
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Flowers For Algeria posted:i mean i can't believe I'm saying this, but with numbers like these the loving senate is the only institution that could prevent macron from changing the constitution and naming himself emperor for life Time for a sixth republic. This one was getting stale anyways.
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The Belgian posted:Time for a sixth republic. This one was getting stale anyways. Bring back the Third Republic. That lasted a fairly long time by French standards, & was lots of fun to boot.
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