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WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

AceOfFlames posted:

Serious question: what are correct non gendered alternatives to "bitch"?" "rear end in a top hat" and "Bastard"? I guess "shithead" works too?

Shitlord is nice and gender neutral.

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repeating
Nov 14, 2005

AceOfFlames posted:

Serious question: what are correct non gendered alternatives to "bitch"?" "rear end in a top hat" and "Bastard"?

I'm pretty sure rear end in a top hat and bastard are already not gendered. And bitch is really pretty powerless at this point.

If you wanna say bitch just say rear end in a top hat instead.

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000

WampaLord posted:

Shitlord is nice and gender neutral.
Do I call a woman a shitlady, then?

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Ventana posted:

Genuinely curious since I don't know how these things work, how would Comey's testimony screw up the investigation?
If he were to just go in all guns blazing, it would tip off specific people being investigated at this moment that otherwise might not know they're a target.

repeating
Nov 14, 2005

Kilroy posted:

Do I call a woman a shitlady, then?

you're saying this like you don't know the answer. the answer is yes.

E: Comey going all-in would gently caress everything up really bad

slinkimalinki
Jan 17, 2010

Kilroy posted:

Do I call a woman a shitlady, then?

Shitbird.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Ventana posted:

Genuinely curious since I don't know how these things work, how would Comey's testimony screw up the investigation?

It won't because Comey will spend the whole hearing talking about how irresponsible Hillary Clinton was for her private server.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Take some time today to read this long and extremely scorching piece in Der Spiegel today, which quotes extensively from the G8 meeting in Sicily and the NATO meeting in Brussels.

quote:

Still, it is likely that none of the G-7 heads of state and government expected the primitive brutality Trump would stoop to when announcing his withdrawal from the international community. Surrounded by sycophants in the Rose Garden at the White House, he didn't just proclaim his withdrawal from the climate agreement, he sowed the seeds of international conflict. His speech was a break from centuries of Enlightenment and rationality. The president presented his political statement as a nationalist manifesto of the most imbecilic variety. It couldn't have been any worse.

quote:

His speech was packed with make-believe numbers from controversial or disproven studies. It was hypocritical and dishonest.

quote:

Merkel's aim is that of creating an alliance against Trump. If she can't convince the U.S. president, her approach will be that of trying to isolate him. In Taormina, it was six countries against one. Should Trump not reverse course, she is hoping that the G-20 in Hamburg in July will end 19:1. Whether she will be successful is unclear.

quote:

Therein lies the absurdity of Trump's histrionics. Nothing would have been easier for the U.S. than to take part pro forma in United Nations climate-related negotiations while completely ignoring climate protection measures at home -- which Trump has been doing anyway since his election.

It's a fine read, and the break between the EU and US with this president will be quite something.

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007

Ventana posted:

Genuinely curious since I don't know how these things work, how would Comey's testimony screw up the investigation?

Comey has met with Mueller, anything he's prepared to say at the testimony has been run by him first to make sure the investigation is cleared.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
I want to believe career politicians behind the scenes are doing their best at working with our allies, around the fuckheads in this administration until it is dealt with.

Playstation 4
Apr 25, 2014
Unlockable Ben

Captain Invictus posted:

I want to believe career politicians behind the scenes are doing their best at working with our allies, around the fuckheads in this administration until it is dealt with.

This has pretty much been Mattis' MO since he took the reins of SecDef.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Grapplejack posted:

Comey has met with Mueller, anything he's prepared to say at the testimony has been run by him first to make sure the investigation is cleared.

"It would be inappropriate for me to comment on any ongoing investigations, so while I can't say whether Russia hacked the DNC to interfere with the elections or just to erase the evidence that Hillary Clinton was emailing uranium to Putin, I think it's clear that that is something Crooked Hillary would totally do."

"Also to my knowledge the FBI has never definitively ruled out the possibility that Hillary did 9/11, I repeat, Hillary did 9/11. Thank you."

VitalSigns fucked around with this message at 10:21 on Jun 6, 2017

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



AceOfFlames posted:

Serious question: what are correct non gendered alternatives to "bitch"?" "rear end in a top hat" and "Bastard"? I guess "shithead" works too?

Fuckface is good.

Gangrenous donkey cock also works.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Captain Invictus posted:

I want to believe career politicians behind the scenes are doing their best at working with our allies, around the fuckheads in this administration until it is dealt with.

I'm sure that's happening, but the problem is that Trump and the vocal quarter of his moron squad are doing everything humanly possible to piss off the rest of the world. The dumping of the Paris deal really was a huge slap in the face, and any future administration will have its work cut out for them.

The EU just about got over the Bush administration through Obama, but that already loosened transatlantic bonds. This is another order of magnitude.

MrNemo
Aug 26, 2010

"I just love beeting off"

Paracaidas posted:

To reiterate, since Glenn defense has again become contrarian and thus en vogue:
No matter how poorly executed Winner's leaking attempt was (and it was incredibly poorly executed),The Intercept hosed this up in thoroughly unforgivable fashion.

The reporter reached out to another government source he had. Sharing with him photos of the documents to try and determine authenticity-while also relaying that he'd received them from the mail, postmarked from Augusta, and shared where he believed Winner worked based on their conversations. It was this contractor who snitched while also effectively narrowing the scope of the hunt.

All four on the byline, and any editors involved, need to face consequences for this. The snitch needs to be unmasked, to protect the sources of other journalists who he may be working with. Whoever is The Reporter mentioned in the charges needs to spend the rest of his career doing gossip blog nonsense. A lower-stress job should help him cope with the guilt that comes from waking up a free man while someone else is imprisoned for his fuckups.

eta: She did not email The Intercept from her work email, and she did not email The Intercept to discuss leaking or any of the information involved at work. The emails in question were about asking for podcast transcripts and confirming her subscription, from her gmail account at work. Judge the gently caress out of anyone who blames her for emailing from work.

What's the source for this? Not to doubt but I'd like to be able to point people to something if they ask and I don't know how high the impact rating of this dead gay comedy forum is.

Also: My worse case prediction for US international relations with Trump was always the US shifting into painting the EU as their primary competitor. The reasoning for this being very simple, Trump is used to dealing people in sycophantic terms. For him the strength of a relationship is based on how much you can enjoy spending time with your opposite number and dictators/demagogues tend to be pretty good at that. On the other hand European leaders and Asian technocrats tend to want to discuss things like details of policies or talk about problems facing them. Dealing with such people for Trump is, ultimately, not much fun. And Trump deals with being made to feel unhappy by lashing out. The result is that aggressive, hard line regimes take the nice treatment as a sign of weakness (KSA actions, though I'd been expecting Russia to be the country taking aggressive actions) while allies are basically forced into confrontation. The result on both sides is greater international instability and damage to the US's ability to actually influence international relations without resorting to bombing poo poo, because your current leaders are children who think US influence equals everyone doing everything the US wants and agreeing with them it's the right thing to do.

Edit: Also in terms of international stability, Bush 2 was a significant departure from previous US positions in terms of unilateralism and acting determinedly outside of international norms established by previous US administrations. Countries that went along largely suffered domestically with little or no positive result from siding with the US. Obama persuaded a lot of other countries that that may have been an aberration and the US would return to acting as an international leader. Trump has gone so far past Bush 2 that even if he's replaced with a moderate Republican and then a Democrat as talented as Obama was people are still going to be wary of relying on the US or even entering into significant Trade deals. In WWI Britain went to war in Europe, in part, over a determination to be seen to abide by a century old treaty protecting Belgian independence. Trump has shown a willingness to throw out agreements that are freshly signed or decades old, that kind of poo poo does a lot more damage to international prestige than being respectful to a foreign leader.

MrNemo fucked around with this message at 10:30 on Jun 6, 2017

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Playstation 4 posted:

This has pretty much been Mattis' MO since he took the reins of SecDef.
That would be my hope, but didn't he say some kinda stupid poo poo within the last week that made people question his intentions?

Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Captain Invictus posted:

That would be my hope, but didn't he say some kinda stupid poo poo within the last week that made people question his intentions?

He made some "I am the one who knocks" type quote, and I think he's been covering for Trump the same way everyone else has (despite it going against his stated principles and whatnot and contradicting his past statements), though I admit I might be confusing him with McMaster.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
It was McMaster I was thinking of, sorry.

And I wager if it comes to light that the election was sabotaged, not just influenced, by Russia(hell, if we're hoping for that then let's go further and hope they find evidence of collusion even further back than Trump), I'd hope that the EU would be more willing to make amends since it was the direct interference of a foreign power, perhaps THE foreign power if we're being honest. With Russia interfering with France's election and no doubt many other EU countries, it might be easier to fix things than we're panicking about. I hope.

hope is the first step on the road to disappointment

Pellisworth
Jun 20, 2005
guys can we just consider this Trump's paid internship as President, give pissbaby a chance

MrNemo
Aug 26, 2010

"I just love beeting off"

Captain Invictus posted:

It was McMaster I was thinking of, sorry.

And I wager if it comes to light that the election was sabotaged, not just influenced, by Russia(hell, if we're hoping for that then let's go further and hope they find evidence of collusion even further back than Trump), I'd hope that the EU would be more willing to make amends since it was the direct interference of a foreign power, perhaps THE foreign power if we're being honest. With Russia interfering with France's election and no doubt many other EU countries, it might be easier to fix things than we're panicking about. I hope.

hope is the first step on the road to disappointment

It highlights a weakness in the US governmental institutions, the problem being not simply Russian interference but that the US political establishment essentially fell in line with such a radical force. That's not to blame everyone who didn't but it's not clear that Russia hacked the Republican primary. Trump winning that and the majority of the party (and all the actual voters) falling behind Trump was required for Trump to win. If Republican officials had organised to oppose Trump or collectively disavowed an unqualified candidate promising stuff he couldn't deliver then he'd never have had the opportunity. The increasingly partisan two party system and poisoning of discourse in the US all contributed to that.

If Russia was found to have played a role and Trump gets impeached I can imagine it doing quite a bit to restore confidence but if nothing else obviously changes about the US system it's going to take quite a period of stability before other countries are going to feel confident trusting the US. Basically there seem to be structural issues in the US system currently. If this immediate symptom is dealt with but nothing more then other countries are going to need proof that the system itself isn't as prone to radical changing as it has been (time). If there are some actual steps taken to address those problems (changes to voting structures or even some form of mea culpa and reform in the Republicans as a response to Trump) then you'd see a lot more confidence and willingness to try again.

Avirosb
Nov 21, 2016

Everyone makes pisstakes

AceOfFlames posted:

Serious question: what are correct non gendered alternatives to "bitch"?" "rear end in a top hat" and "Bastard"? I guess "shithead" works too?

It's possible to be both a pussy and a dick at the same time.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

AceOfFlames posted:

Serious question: what are correct non gendered alternatives to "bitch"?" "rear end in a top hat" and "Bastard"? I guess "shithead" works too?

Fuckwads general neutral. Likewise with piss baby but that one pertains strictly to Trump supporters.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


So anything scheduled for today related to Trump? I can't keep up with stuff at this point beyond Comey having his bit on Thursday.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Ramos posted:

So anything scheduled for today related to Trump? I can't keep up with stuff at this point beyond Comey having his bit on Thursday.

This is "infrastructure week," so naturally we'll hear about privatizing everything that moves at some point. That's why he doesn't like wind power, because ~Gawd~ is a socialist that gives wind away for free, and he'll eventually see the Simpsons episode where Mr. Burns blocks out the sun...

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
Morning Joe just now: "Mike Pence :allears:"

Wow, subtle, Joe :thunk:

I catch myself watching Morning Joe a lot early mornings lately; it's not news, it's just a long block of 8 or so people relentlessly making GBS threads on Trump. Don't watch this show.

Throwing Turtles
May 3, 2015

BIG HEADLINE posted:

This is "infrastructure week," so naturally we'll hear about privatizing everything that moves at some point. That's why he doesn't like wind power, because ~Gawd~ is a socialist that gives wind away for free, and he'll eventually see the Simpsons episode where Mr. Burns blocks out the sun...

It's not even something as logical as socialism bad. He hates wind farms because one was put up near his golf course in Scotland and no matter how hard he cried the government wouldn't take it down. So now he hates all wind farms. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/22/trump-british-allies-against-windfarms-golf-courses-scotland

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug
I can't wait for Donnie to float an idea that could actually help Americans (like rebuilding hilariously old and unsafe bridges) to only have the republicans pull his senile rear end aside and tell him that it's a bad idea because that's money that could be given to billionaires via tax-cuts. By Friday, Donnie will be telling us that the existing infrastructure is fine.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Ripoff posted:

I can't wait for Donnie to float an idea that could actually help Americans (like rebuilding hilariously old and unsafe bridges) to only have the republicans pull his senile rear end aside and tell him that it's a bad idea because that's money that could be given to billionaires via tax-cuts. By Friday, Donnie will be telling us that the existing infrastructure is fine.

You mean just offer to sell the bridges well below actual value in exchange for tax incentives to repair bridges?

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Flesh Forge posted:


I catch myself watching Morning Joe a lot early mornings lately; it's not news, it's just a long block of 8 or so people relentlessly making GBS threads on Trump. Don't watch this show.

it makes a nice change from him slobbering all over Trump during the (early) primaries though.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Ripoff posted:

I can't wait for Donnie to float an idea that could actually help Americans (like rebuilding hilariously old and unsafe bridges) to only have the republicans pull his senile rear end aside and tell him that it's a bad idea because that's money that could be given to billionaires via tax-cuts. By Friday, Donnie will be telling us that the existing infrastructure is fine.

Already happened with Obamacare. He said he could fix it instantly, then went 'ah this is hard' and now is telling everyone kids dying of cancer is good for America.

Donnie has two objectives in the white house now, one to ruin what Obama has done out of spite, and two to make as much money for himself and his family.

FFS he has been selling access to the US for half a million each to the Chinese.

Ramos
Jul 3, 2012


Junior G-man posted:

it makes a nice change from him slobbering all over Trump during the (early) primaries though.

Sounds like that just makes him useless for anything but gossip.

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug

Mustached Demon posted:

You mean just offer to sell the bridges well below actual value in exchange for tax incentives to repair bridges?

The only bleak hope I have in this seemingly inevitable scenario is that they start charging hilariously high tolls to "maximize shareholder value" and it gets people to stop driving cars to work. Less driving means less pollution! :shobon:

As well as the collapse of the local economy.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Flesh Forge posted:

Morning Joe just now: "Mike Pence :allears:"

Wow, subtle, Joe :thunk:

I catch myself watching Morning Joe a lot early mornings lately; it's not news, it's just a long block of 8 or so people relentlessly making GBS threads on Trump. Don't watch this show.

morning joe is the mouthpiece of "centrist" republicans and you can always figure out what they want to get out there by what joe says.

moskiitto
Feb 27, 2013

Overlardness
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40173472

quote:

The US says it is considering withdrawing from the UN body on human rights, highlighting what it calls a "biased" stance on Israel.
UN ambassador Nikki Haley said the US was "looking carefully" at its role on the Human Rights Council.
She said it was "hard to accept" the fact that five resolutions had been passed against Israel, a US ally, but none had been considered on Venezuela.
Mrs Haley is expected to address the council later on Tuesday.
In an opinion article for the Washington Post last Friday, Mrs Haley said the council needed to "end its practice of wrongly singling out Israel for criticism".
While she highlighted work done by the group, she said not enough had been done to criticise Iran, a "country with an abysmal human rights record", and Venezuela, which is in political turmoil and where dozens of protesters have been killed in recent months.

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

AceOfFlames posted:

Serious question: what are correct non gendered alternatives to "bitch"?" "rear end in a top hat" and "Bastard"? I guess "shithead" works too?

dickshitter is gender-neutral

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

FizFashizzle posted:

morning joe is the mouthpiece of "centrist" republicans and you can always figure out what they want to get out there by what joe says.

Yeah the fluff piece on how gosh darn handsome/dignified/whatever Mike Pence is was pretty loud and clear.

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







Flesh Forge posted:

Yeah the fluff piece on how gosh darn handsome/dignified/whatever Mike Pence is was pretty loud and clear.

Republicans are angling for a way to get Trump out that doesn't involve anyone asking Mike Pence some hard questions about what he knew and when he knew it about Mike Flynn.

I don't think that's possible.

At the very least it's going to come out Pence lied about knowing when a foreign agent was in the white house and said nothing. He's going down too.

MrNemo
Aug 26, 2010

"I just love beeting off"

Filthy Hans posted:

dickshitter is gender-neutral

I... I don't think it is.

Also Donald Trump's infrastructure bill is going to involve removing all subsidies for renewable energy because he hates wind farms, lifting restrictions on fossil fuel practices and development and probably privatising bridges and even more roads. Probably combined with slightly lower road taxes that then eats up all the savings and means infrastructure in non-populous areas falls to poo poo because it's not profitable and the federal government no longer has any money to spend on it.

Paracaidas
Sep 24, 2016
Consistently Tedious!

MrNemo posted:

What's the source for this? Not to doubt but I'd like to be able to point people to something if they ask and I don't know how high the impact rating of this dead gay comedy forum is.

The affidavit supporting the search warrant
https://www.scribd.com/document/350456382/Reality-Leigh-Winner

Phoneposting and it's not liking the PDF, but especially 16 and 19.

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The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Captain Invictus posted:

It was McMaster I was thinking of, sorry.

And I wager if it comes to light that the election was sabotaged, not just influenced, by Russia(hell, if we're hoping for that then let's go further and hope they find evidence of collusion even further back than Trump), I'd hope that the EU would be more willing to make amends since it was the direct interference of a foreign power, perhaps THE foreign power if we're being honest. With Russia interfering with France's election and no doubt many other EU countries, it might be easier to fix things than we're panicking about. I hope.

It's already been proven that America is not reliable. Regardless of whether Trump is the American's people's fault, the fact is that he did get into power and someone similar could get into power again. As such, all treaties and agreements with the US now have to be considered with an eye to the fact that the US might arbitrarily decide to tear them up at any moment.

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