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whydirt posted:Manchin correctly identified Flip Jace as being good and Narset as bad. This drove mcmagic up the wall. While you're bringing that up.... Manchin also is a piece of poo poo who supported Trump's removal from Paris. He's literally worse on climate than some republicans. He doesn't deserve any democratic votes.
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Groovelord Neato posted:unless it's something like d day we should know. International diplomacy alone is something that requires a significant amount of discretion. You think the Iran deal would have had a chance of going through had it been out in the open from day one?
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Gorilla Salad posted:Update : I am currently 24 hours into Operation: Call Trump an Inbred Dogfucker on Twitter. Thank you for doing the Lord's work.
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I'm curious how these anti-MSM rants are still playing? I read a headline the other day (yesterday? time has become meaningless) that said that basically that was the Republicans' platform in 2018. It seems like that was a lot of what brought Trump into office, but I'm curious if it's become 'boy cries wolfish'.
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Groovelord Neato posted:unless it's something like d day we should know. There is information the government possesses that, if revealed, would compromise our sources and the sources of foreign allies. Any active intelligence resource should be protected, but there should time limits related to freedom of information. After a certain amount of time, everything the government has should become public knowledge. Edit: What that time frame should be though, gently caress if I know.
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androo posted:It's quite likely that leaks becoming a "thing" in the beltway will come and bite Dems in the rear end once they regain power, though? That seems pretty dangerous to me, though I still think it's the right move at the moment. It's certainly fascinating. my issue with greenwald is his russian apologism, like i said twice before. you're going "everyone knows his principles" as a reason to ignore that he's violating those principles when previously he was all in favor of leaks and now he's suddenly all ~the leakers are the real criminals~ and ~hey im just asking questions here~, and you are busy pretending there's no such thing and then wondering why people criticize him for it
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fishing with the fam posted:There is information the government possesses that, if revealed, would compromise our sources and the sources of foreign allies. Any active intelligence resource should be protected, but there should time limits related to freedom of information. After a certain amount of time, everything the government has should become public knowledge. This is generally true, documents are supposed to be declassified after 50 years or other similarly long periods.
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Devos is again refusing to answer the question if schools would be allowed to discriminate based on LGBTQ or religious discrimination.
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Let's face it Trump can tell the Saudis to straight up bomb a US base in Qatar and Tweet "our troops didn't receive training under Obama and so they were hit by bombs. SAD!" And nothing bad will happen.
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evilweasel posted:This is generally true, documents are supposed to be declassified after 50 years or other similarly long periods. that's way too long.
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Jun 6, 2017 16:21
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Seems Hillary Clinton would be highly qualified to join Mueller's investigation. 
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It's extremely great that our president is so obviously a lovely gangster that we're hiring guys who specialize in lovely-gangster busting.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/maddow/status/872110687849508865 Guess she survived the poisoning attempt after all. Good for her.
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Piell posted:Devos is again refusing to answer the question if schools would be allowed to discriminate based on LGBTQ or religious discrimination.
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Groovelord Neato posted:unless it's something like d day we should know. You must make for a horrible friend and employee if you can't keep discretion.
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The best subplot post election has been the barrage of 'RUSSIA DOESN'T MATTER NOTHING REALLY HAPPENED' being punctuated every 2 weeks by some new horrifying revelation about Russian interference or quid pro quo or Holy loving poo poo How Was Mike Flynn Ever A General.
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Gorilla Salad posted:Update : I am currently 24 hours into Operation: Call Trump an Inbred Dogfucker on Twitter. All I've managed so far is 12 hours in the Twitter time-out corner
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evilweasel posted:my issue with greenwald is his russian apologism, like i said twice before. I don't know, I very much read that as an attack on democrats for being quiet on the leaks. More of a 'you guys are being pretty quiet about this when it's good for you' than leaks are bad when they're bad for Russia. I mean I think he's wrong but I literally don't read those tweets the way you do.
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bollig posted:I'm curious how these anti-MSM rants are still playing? I read a headline the other day (yesterday? time has become meaningless) that said that basically that was the Republicans' platform in 2018. It seems like that was a lot of what brought Trump into office, but I'm curious if it's become 'boy cries wolfish'. Chicken little is a better analogy. At the end of the boy who cried wolf, there's a wolf. Chicken little was just complaining to complain and discredit yourself until you put your faith in the only person willing to listen but they eat you.
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Greenwald's website also took literally zero steps to protect a source. Yeah, yeah, they would have got this source anyway. The Intercept's sloppiness still contributed to a person going to prison for probably the rest of her relevant life. They went out of their way to make it easier to find her. That combined with the Russia apologism is not a good look, especially since the information was a leak about...Russian election interference. You know. That thing the Intercept doesn't believe in. That thing they have made core to their political reporting, that 'discrediting Russian investigation' at every turn thing. The thing the leaker they burned gave to them. Which: poor Reality Winner, but drat did she pick the wrong website to go to.
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Gorilla Salad posted:Update : I am currently 24 hours into Operation: Call Trump an Inbred Dogfucker on Twitter. I'm not sure he knows what those words mean. He clearly doesn't understand what a dog is.
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Night10194 posted:The best subplot post election has been the barrage of 'RUSSIA DOESN'T MATTER NOTHING REALLY HAPPENED' being punctuated every 2 weeks by some new horrifying revelation about Russian interference or quid pro quo or Holy loving poo poo How Was Mike Flynn Ever A General. I'm only worried about the Russia stuff to the extent that it hurts Trump politically because I still believe that the best way to attack Trump and Trumpism is politics. I've come around to seeing that it HAS been damaging to him so I don't mind people talking about it.
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evilweasel posted:a nonsense idea considering that the entire republican party has coalesced around the idea that "the leaks are the real crime" and he was going but why is there not enough attention that the leaks are the real crime!?!?!?!?! there couldn't be more attention on it unless democrats also agreed that the leaks are the real crime This guy is such a loving dipshit
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Boon posted:You must make for a horrible friend and employee if you can't keep discretion. this is a terrible comparison.
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On top of everything else, welcome to a lifetime of "least fitting name" jokes.
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This is a fun readquote:There have been a number of people who were identified as being in the running to get the job. And of that group, most have publicly withdrawn their names from contention. The Trump administration has a recruiting problem
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Dick Trauma posted:Seems Hillary Clinton would be highly qualified to join Mueller's investigation. Seems like joining an investigation against Trump is the good way to avoid any retaliation from Trump. Oh, that's right...Comey...
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MrNemo posted:I don't know, I very much read that as an attack on democrats for being quiet on the leaks. More of a 'you guys are being pretty quiet about this when it's good for you' than leaks are bad when they're bad for Russia. i do too! which is why i'm castigating a guy who previously was all in favor of leaks, but once they're about russia he starts talking about how they are crimes democrats aren't in favor of leaks generally, they are in favor of leaks that expose impeachable offenses and foreign meddling in our elections, and it is entirely consistent to be in favor of those leaks while being opposed to leaks that, arguably, hurt national security it is not consistent to be in favor of the snowden/manning leaks yet be opposed to the russia leaks
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RiggenBlaque posted:This is a fun read I'm pretty sure Gowdy, Cornyn and Lieberman couldn't be confirmed and would've all taken the job if offered. They have all prostrated themselves before Trump before and will again. mcmagic fucked around with this message at 16:42 on Jun 6, 2017 |
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RiggenBlaque posted:This is a fun read Worlds biggest game not "Not touching the poop*". *Replace with stove/dumpster fire to flavour.
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shrike82 posted:lol i didn't realize scarborough and mika got engaged. I wondered what finally got the big Z.
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The problem Trump has is that all the police state apparatus in the US are selling him out TO the police instead of humoring his Mussolini cosplay. Trump is so much stupider than even the huge Trump haters like me imagined. The idiot fucks up in huge public ways in like 50% of the time it takes the public to lose interest in the last bad Trump thing they read. Dude is such a dumb rear end in a top hat that a shady intelligence agency that literally has used Hydra's logo looked at him and went LOLNOPE.
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androo posted:It's quite likely that leaks becoming a "thing" in the beltway will come and bite Dems in the rear end once they regain power, though? That seems pretty dangerous to me, though I still think it's the right move at the moment. It's certainly fascinating. Could be I'm in a echo chamber without realizing it, but I haven't seen or heard of any democratic leaks of something on par with what is coming out weekly about the trump admin and a huge list of republicans having received massive amounts of russian money and repeated visits with russian diplomats and spies. All the democrats have to worry about is making sure everyone keeps their dicks in their pants or else we're gonna have a hundred years of darkness.
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oohhboy posted:Worlds biggest game not "Not touching the poop*". "Hey, we have a request from a big name client to come on board." "Nice, who?" "President Trump." "NOPE!" "But he's paying double our usual rates! " "NOOOOOOPE! I like our reputation, the rest of our clients would run for the hills!" "He said if we don't he'd tweet very mean things about us!"
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Kammat posted:"Hey, we have a request from a big name client to come on board." So... free advertising?
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Groovelord Neato posted:this is a terrible comparison. Nah, it goes to the very heart of protecting information. You feel entitled but there is no reason for you to have access, and frankly, you and the public at large are a terrible judge of what should and should not be available. IT is however, why we have oversight, regulatory, Congress, and other mechanisms of discovery to help protect the interest of the public. If there's a problem, it's with the latter not the former.
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mcmagic posted:I'm pretty sure Gowdy, Cornyn and Lieberman couldn't be confirmed and would've all taken the job if offered. They have all prostrated themselves before Trump before and will again. Did you mean could be confirmed? Either way, I think the FBI directorship is a special case: Republicans may not be willing to force through a partisan hack for that one specific job but will force on through for anything else.
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Could be I'm in a echo chamber without realizing it, but I haven't seen or heard of any democratic leaks of something on par with what is coming out weekly about the trump admin and a huge list of republicans having received massive amounts of russian money and repeated visits with russian diplomats and spies. The Chelsea Manning leaks revealed some very bad behavior on the part of US troops, and general political skullduggery. But not really any shameful treacherous behaviour of powerful politicians as the Trump/Russia links (if they are what we suspect they are.) https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/30/bradley-manning-wikileaks-revelations Ra Ra Rasputin posted:All the democrats have to worry about is making sure everyone keeps their dicks in their pants or else we're gonna have a hundred years of darkness. Introduce the Mike Pence rules of sexual conduct right now for all Democrats 
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mcmagic posted:The IC is a much greater threat to my rights than Russia is. I don't agree. Russia has its own intelligence community, and it's pretty drat intent on threatening your and my rights. Obviously being suspicious of our IC is a good impulse. But at the very least, if you assume they're a huge threat, be happy that they are enemies of Trump, not tools of his.
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Kammat posted:"Hey, we have a request from a big name client to come on board." He's so dumb and bad he basically breaks the concept of making lawyer jokes.
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