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i keep getting invites to events, also lots of folks want to have conversations about my interests
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are you looking
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Jun 6, 2017 16:45
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cis autodrag posted:i used to do this whole "great lakes are different" thing and then i transitioned and found out madison has plenty of hillbillies in head to toe camo who are willing to yell "tranny" at you out of their truck or follow you to the bathroom. Agreed, they're still downgrades from the coasts because the rednecks aren't literally 1000 miles away. I don't want to minimize what you've experienced, I'm just saying that it's better compared to flatland USA.
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Jun 6, 2017 16:48
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Bloody posted:are you looking ThePeavstenator posted:Agreed, they're still downgrades from the coasts because the rednecks aren't literally 1000 miles away. I don't want to minimize what you've experienced, I'm just saying that it's better compared to flatland USA.
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Jun 6, 2017 16:54
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JawnV6 posted:idk don't downplay cali either, plenty of awful folks and the central valley isn't 1000 mi away The west coast is the only place in the US I haven't been to so I can't really comment too heavily on it. I'm just trying to avoid "yeah well there's bigots everywhere, it could be worse" because I'm a hetero white guy and it's easy for me to ignore that poo poo.
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Jun 6, 2017 17:04
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JawnV6 posted:no, im less than a year in & still thrilled w/ the job, just awkward that folks who wouldn't give me the time of day when i WAS looking are so persistent yeah i used to thing califorina was a whole state of cool people because i had only visited san francisco and LA, and then when we went to the sequoia national park (which is beautiful) and on the way we had to drive through bakersfield. never do a bakersfield.
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Jun 6, 2017 17:12
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Job hunting is harder than a lot of programmers think IMO. A lot of people haven't had to actually go out there and actually do it for months on end.
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Jun 6, 2017 17:14
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qhat posted:Job hunting is harder than a lot of programmers think IMO. A lot of people haven't had to actually go out there and actually do it for months on end. its garbage
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Jun 6, 2017 17:16
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When I moved to Canada I struggled to even get shortlisted for the majority of places. Not rly sure why, I had PR, resume was great and often had all the skills for the job. My guess is recruiters were wary about the current unemployment or lack of Canadian experience. Got what I wanted in the end but it took a few months.
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Jun 6, 2017 17:17
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PokeJoe posted:its garbage
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FMguru posted:what about interviewing? i've heard it's also garbage
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Jun 6, 2017 17:18
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FMguru posted:what about interviewing? Easy if you don't have to explain poo poo to the interviewer who should know his poo poo
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Jun 6, 2017 17:19
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qhat posted:Job hunting is harder than a lot of programmers think IMO. A lot of people haven't had to actually go out there and actually do it for months on end. really getting *a* job is usually pretty easy, but there are a loooooooooooot of lovely jobs in this world
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Jun 6, 2017 17:19
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VOTE YES ON 69 posted:i've heard it's also garbage
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Jun 6, 2017 17:21
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VOTE YES ON 69 posted:really getting *a* job is usually pretty easy, but there are a loooooooooooot of lovely jobs in this world I interviewed and got an offer from a joint in Vancouver which described themselves as  a growing startup . In 15 years they had amassed a totally of 6 staff. I turned that down lol.
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qhat posted:Job hunting is harder than a lot of programmers think IMO. A lot of people haven't had to actually go out there and actually do it for months on end. yeah., i gave up
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qhat posted:When I moved to Canada I struggled to even get shortlisted for the majority of places. Not rly sure why, I had PR, resume was great and often had all the skills for the job. My guess is recruiters were wary about the current unemployment or lack of Canadian experience. Got what I wanted in the end but it took a few months. job hunting is so much easier when you have a job it is ridiculous.
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VOTE YES ON 69 posted:really getting *a* job is usually pretty easy, but there are a loooooooooooot of lovely jobs in this world ya getting a job isn't impossible but getting a good job or a job you actually want is still challenging. took me a fuckin year+ to do it
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Jun 6, 2017 17:28
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I could have found a job in a few weeks but finding one that is compelling enough to leave my current job and also gives me the right figgies took several months.
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Jun 6, 2017 18:01
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i love when jobs ask? "so what do you love about PoopFactory inc?" idfk probably because you might pay money to me to touch computers, and also im expecting *you* to convince me that I do love PoopFactory inc
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Jun 6, 2017 18:13
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VOTE YES ON 69 posted:i love when jobs ask? "so what do you love about PoopFactory inc?" to me this one is a "did you bother even briefly thinking about what we do?"
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Jun 6, 2017 18:18
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the problem is when they phrase it like you should already love the company
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Jun 6, 2017 18:18
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hobbesmaster posted:the problem is when they phrase it like you should already love the company nah, that's standard. everyone pretends to drink the cool aid when they are talking to HR. you just use the keywords they are looking for like "exciting" and "opportunity" and mention one of their products and they check the box marked "drank the cool aid" which means "googled our product and at least spent 5 minutes thinking how to answer this boilerplate question before the interview"
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Jun 6, 2017 18:22
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qirex posted:to me this one is a "did you bother even briefly thinking about what we do?"
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Jun 6, 2017 18:23
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protip: if you see a philanthropy/"we give back" section on their website mention that you saw it and how great it is if you talk to any senior managers
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Jun 6, 2017 18:31
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qirex posted:to me this one is a "did you bother even briefly thinking about what we do?" yeah, I mean I'm really good at answering it, it's a dumb question tho I'll usually say a bunch of things that are cool about the org and product and challenges and role, and then 'and that's why i'd love to find out more about this specific team and role, so what is ... blah blah blah'
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Jun 6, 2017 18:37
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Supernaive question incoming: We know its bullshit. They gotta know its bullshit. Why does everyone still bother?
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Jun 6, 2017 18:38
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Xarn posted:Supernaive question incoming: some people cannot bullshit in front of customers
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Xarn posted:Supernaive question incoming: it depends who you're talking to, they might not be a technical wizard who cares about your tree-balancing skills and is merely trying to figure out if you're someone they want to work with actually I'm curious: do you have interviews where you only talk to other tech people? that would be bizarre to me
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Xarn posted:Supernaive question incoming:
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hobbesmaster posted:some people cannot bullshit in front of customers
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Not quite job hunting question (although it may come to that...) I started a "junior" dev role in January with a "pay review in 3 months". I've been with the company a while (QA => dev). I had a conversation with not-quite-my-line-manager and he straight up told me I was easily out performing the other (not junior) devs on my team. How hard do I poke the bear for figgies?
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Xarn posted:Supernaive question incoming: because some people will still screw it up and get eliminated because they don't know where they are applying.
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dick traceroute posted:Not quite job hunting question (although it may come to that...) get another job realtalk its the only way to get figgies
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Jun 6, 2017 19:33
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Yeah hop somewhere and see if you can get jr off your title
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qirex posted:actually I'm curious: do you have interviews where you only talk to other tech people? that would be bizarre to me every one i've had. most of my jobs haven't been stellar, fwiw.
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I've had the opposite problem a few times. candidate was very excited to tell me how much they love the product and company and I'm like I don't care dude I just care about your technical skills
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I poo poo you not I once had a company outright ask me in an interview "If you got an offer from amazon or MS etc, would you leave our company for it?" Uh, maybe, in fact, now that you ask, yes.
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PokeJoe posted:Yeah hop somewhere and see if you can get jr off your title Amazed companies still put this crap on prospective job titles. Massive turn off, even to new grads.
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Question for the elderly: how far can you stretch "experience" for job requirements? I still work at the same company I interned at for 2 years and there's not really any room for growth as a computer toucher here. A lot of job postings ask for 3+ years of "professional experience" which I'm guessing is their way of saying "internships don't count". e: qhat posted:Amazed companies still put this crap on prospective job titles. Massive turn off, even to new grads. Even better is when they list experience requirements beyond 2 years and have a giant laundry list of technologies you need to know, 2 of which the position actually touches. Probably the only thing "Jr" about those dev positions is the pay. ThePeavstenator fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Jun 6, 2017 |
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