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DancingShade posted:No they do that with literal "you are leaving the mission area" stuff, also radiation/cold/environment death. I know those exist but that isn't really what I mean. There's occasional hills that I was able to get up to faffing around with the Nomad that I feel like I was meant to take another path to. If I could go fast and go up the hill I could have done it really easily. For example Voeld, near the base for the...baddies. Whose name I can't remember. Christ.
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DoctorGonzo posted:I hope CDPR releases soon Cyberpunk 2077 so we can forget the rest of videogames forever I hope they release it soon so they can make more Witcher
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Bogan Krkic posted:Let's be honest, the only reason we're all here complaining about the game that we love to hate is because it's the only 'good' space opera game that exists and if anyone else made one we'd all go play that instead and forget all about how bad Andromeda was I will never forget how bad Andromeda was. Because that would mean forgetting this thread, and all of my Mass Effect Posting Pals.
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Even I've had to come around to a simple realization: I've never felt so little desire to not immediately play through a Bioware game a second time to see different choices and romance.
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Cythereal posted:Even I've had to come around to a simple realization: I've never felt so little desire to not immediately play through a Bioware game a second time to see different choices and romance. I'm the other way, normally I'm satisfied that the game was good and gave me enough choices to play however I wanted, but this time I want to start again in the blind hope that I accidentally selected the 'I want this game to be bad' option when talking to someone right at the beginning and if I play it differently there's a secret good game to unlock
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I want to play this game and write how bad it is, does anybody have extra dollar-bin codes that I could buy? I'm not paying $50.
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Palpek posted:I want to play this game and write how bad it is, does anybody have extra dollar-bin codes that I could buy? I'm not paying $50. You can probably find physical copies in literal dollar bins pretty soon. I didn't save a link or a local copy of the upload image but at least one person bought two copies at 3 bucks each somewhere. (they were physical "no disc" download only versions) DancingShade fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Jun 6, 2017 |
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Bogan Krkic posted:I'm the other way, normally I'm satisfied that the game was good and gave me enough choices to play however I wanted, but this time I want to start again in the blind hope that I accidentally selected the 'I want this game to be bad' option when talking to someone right at the beginning and if I play it differently there's a secret good game to unlock I'm just the opposite. I played the game through once and was satisfied, considering it a deeply flawed but ultimately okay to above average game. Then I realized that I couldn't see any of the plot branches making much of a difference. And while I normally enjoy Bioware romances as popcorn entertainment, the crew in this game is so dull or cringeworthy that I have no desire to get to know any of them better. Except Drack who manages to be fun but he was in my first playthrough's squad without fail all the time anyway.
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DancingShade posted:You can probably find physical copies in literal dollar bins pretty soon. Andromeda was already getting 30% off discounts less than a week after release, the market knew it was a big pile of doo doo.
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Cythereal posted:I'm just the opposite. I played the game through once and was satisfied, considering it a deeply flawed but ultimately okay to above average game. Then I realized that I couldn't see any of the plot branches making much of a difference. And while I normally enjoy Bioware romances as popcorn entertainment, the crew in this game is so dull or cringeworthy that I have no desire to get to know any of them better. Except Drack who manages to be fun but he was in my first playthrough's squad without fail all the time anyway. Same. I too had enough fun playing it to get through the game once. Part of that was probably the vain hope that the plot would turn a corner and not be lovely and disappointing to the very end (it was). Really though, the game is a failure on pretty much every level. Bioware games traditionally have pretty solid replay value and this one has none. In addition to plot and character reasons, checking out other classes was a big reason to try a replay, and they arsed up the gameplay in ME:A enough that that's not even interesting to me.
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Weirdly, I think my biggest problem with the game's replayability isn't due to its quality (even if that does leave me slightly hesitant when I remember Havarl), but because so much of the game seems defined in my head. Like how it just feels weird to play Sara as a straight soldier or biotic, since her most of her character quirks seem so wrapped up in being a bit of a nerd. Or how 90% of the game's armor is either hideous or looks so dissonant from anything that your team wears. Or that I only like playing with Milky Way weapons, but the research is such a slog for them. So every time I start up another playthrough, I have such a clear moment of thought where I realize that I'm about to literally just replay the exact game: a tech-focused character in the Pathfinder or Initiative armor and as many N7 guns as I can keep upgraded. What's even more baffling is that I actually like Ryder more as a character than Shepard. Or at least find her more interesting. But the whole "be anything whenever you want" approach to skills in Andromeda has really smothered any sense of class identity that would've normally convinced me to do another couple of playthroughs in Mass Effect 1 or 2. Sure, the games almost never referenced any actual differences between which class you chose, but it really helped give me a reason to differentiate some of my Shepards from one another and inspired me to play different versions. And this feels even worse coming out of Inquisition, where I was able to have such a field day between my human, elf, and qunari playthroughs before the monotony started to kick in. But even that's like 200+ hours compared to the mere 50 that I've milked out of Andromeda so far.
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I never actually found female Ryder that nerdy, in fact there are multiple moments where a scientist tells you something science-y and your only dialogue options are like, "that's dumb, who cares" or [pretend to be interested]. Like it's actually a massive failure of player expression that you can't have the scientific explorer protagonist be enthusiastic about science. There's the eyes moment with Jaal, which is one of the best moments in the game full stop, but there's also a bunch of conversations with Lexi, Suvi and miscellaneous NPCs where Ryder is completely disinterested in scientific theory and your choice is just whether she's rude about it or not.
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[Scientific] I will. gently caress. Your. poo poo. Up.
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Strange, I played Sarah with almost always the logical/gear responses, and she geeked out constantly - never had a moment of her being disinterested in science. Even had a funny banter in the Nomad when she asked Jaal about how the angara's bioelectric field worked, and he sarcastically asked her if she could explain how her eyes worked. Sarah immediately started a full explanation of how the human eye works. Agreed that Sarah's a more interesting character than Shepard. I just wish she had a better game to be in.
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Cythereal posted:Strange, I played Sarah with almost always the logical/gear responses, and she geeked out constantly - never had a moment of her being disinterested in science. Even had a funny banter in the Nomad when she asked Jaal about how the angara's bioelectric field worked, and he sarcastically asked her if she could explain how her eyes worked. Sarah immediately started a full explanation of how the human eye works. That's actually a shipboard conversation, and it's really good.
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Palpek posted:I want to play this game and write how bad it is, does anybody have extra dollar-bin codes that I could buy? I'm not paying $50. If it's possible to family share origin accounts, I'd do that for you.
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Cythereal posted:Even had a funny banter in the Nomad when she asked Jaal about how the angara's bioelectric field worked, and he sarcastically asked her if she could explain how her eyes worked. Sarah immediately started a full explanation of how the human eye works. Fun fact: Scott's version of that same conversation has him trying to relate with Jaal over the fact that he also doesn't know why he has webbed toes. 
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Milky Moor posted:I will never forget how bad Andromeda was. Honestly I can't even be bothered to do what little post game stuff there is.
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RBA Starblade posted:Honestly I can't even be bothered to do what little post game stuff there is. I got bored and need to finish the game first, I don't think that's happening any time soon.
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I stopped playing at the first Ice World with the Jaal people. I'd had enough of everything. What a pile of poo poo. I didn't psend as much money as most, but I'm still kinda pissed I spent what I did. Terrible game. edit: they're angarans, not Jaal People, I just remembered
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beep by grandpa posted:loving lmao forever at a $200 collectors edition that doesn't even come with the game Don't judge me, it goes well with my $200 lifetime subscription to Hellgate: London.
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ub posted:Same. I too had enough fun playing it to get through the game once. Part of that was probably the vain hope that the plot would turn a corner and not be lovely and disappointing to the very end (it was). Really though, the game is a failure on pretty much every level. Bioware games traditionally have pretty solid replay value and this one has none. In addition to plot and character reasons, checking out other classes was a big reason to try a replay, and they arsed up the gameplay in ME:A enough that that's not even interesting to me. I started a 2nd playthrough but I decided to wait until all the patches come out before playing it again just so I can have a really clear idea of before and after and what could have been if things had been fixed as much as they wanted to fix them.
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Spikeguy posted:I started a 2nd playthrough but I decided to wait until all the patches come out EDIT: Nope I was wrong, they're addressing the really important issues http://kotaku.com/the-next-mass-effect-andromeda-patch-will-let-men-roman-1795863518
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New Patch Notes: blog.bioware.com/2017/06/06/mass-effect-andromeda-patch-1-08-notes/ Single player Ryder’s appearance can now be changed onboard the Tempest Expanded the range of options available in the character creator Jaal can now be romanced by Scott Ryder Dialogue for Hainly Abrams was adjusted to change the flow of personal information she discusses with Ryder. Fixed issue with Nomad upgrades Shield Crafting quest Nexus level and cryo pod points are retroactively granted Vendors now carry weapon mods for Level 60-71 players Vendors now sell weapon augmentations for automatic fire, burst fire, and single-shot fire Improved clarity of descriptions for augmentations Plasma Charge system now works properly for shotguns Beam Emitter augmentation now causes guns to fire a constant beam with scaling damage based on the weapon’s damage per second [PC] Added experimental support for Dolby Vision™ technology Multiplayer Stealth Grid challenge now increments properly Fiend no longer sprints when within 10 meters of target, and will decelerate to base speed Enabled movement correction during Fiend attacks to reduce incidence of players seeing Fiends attacking in the wrong direction Improved movement prediction for some enemies in tight spaces to reduce appearance of teleportation Fixed issue that prevented melee attacks if the revive icon was near center screen Fixed issue where ammo pick-up audio incorrectly played Fixed issue where Backlash could malfunction while moving Using Stealth and Recon Visor together no longer increases duration of invisibility for Turian Agent Fixed issue where weight reduction modifications wouldn’t reduce weight The Revive Pack Transmitter now displays the revive radius in the loadout screen Equipping the Cobra RPG now interrupts reloading Player turns to Adhi when getting synced to avoid teleportation issue Fixed issue where enemies would occasionally enter T-pose when hit Improved visual and audio cues for player ready status in Multiplayer lobbies Added “Lights” option to customization options
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Spikeguy posted:New Patch Notes: ...ugh,
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Elotana posted:All the patches have probably come out. I think at this point they're solely interested in catering to the Bioware forums crowd. With the reviews and subsequent price drops, I can't really blame them.
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a primate posted:I think at this point they're solely interested in catering to the Bioware forums crowd. With the reviews and subsequent price drops, I can't really blame them. Part of the initial backlash was that Jaal had been datamined from the demo to be bi, then in the release version he was straight. Can't blame Bioware for backpedaling, especially when some of Bioware's more vocal fans are part of the LGBT community. Bioware's one of the very few big names in gaming that habitually includes LGBT characters and romance, so they're often under a microscope by that community.
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a primate posted:I think at this point they're solely interested in catering to the Bioware forums crowd. With the reviews and subsequent price drops, I can't really blame them. What if the Bioware forums crowd is Bioware now?
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Cythereal posted:Bioware's one of the very few big names in gaming that habitually includes LGBT characters and romance yes but they're also v bad at it
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ub posted:yes but they're also v bad at it Yeah. Witcher 3 has one gay character, and he's only a side character at that, but his connection to the greater side story in White Orchard makes him one of the best parts of that section of the game. Poor Mislav.
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Kurtofan posted:Added: Jaal can now "pity gently caress" Scott Ryder "C'mon, Jaal, I thought we were friends? Let me just do it once, okay?"
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Cythereal posted:Part of the initial backlash was that Jaal had been datamined from the demo to be bi, then in the release version he was straight. Can't blame Bioware for backpedaling, especially when some of Bioware's more vocal fans are part of the LGBT community. Bioware's one of the very few big names in gaming that habitually includes LGBT characters and romance, so they're often under a microscope by that community. Ah, I see. I wasn't aware of the context. I was just complaining that if they think more romances for Catman will fix the game then hoo boy.
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a primate posted:Ah, I see. I wasn't aware of the context. I was just complaining that if they think more romances for Catman will fix the game then hoo boy. Andromeda, from what I've read, has gotten quite a bit of backlash from the LGBT community in general due to being accustomed to a higher standard from Bioware games when it comes to depicting LGBT people (dead name, the gay dude's story revolving around settling down with a woman and having kids with her, Jaal being flagged as bi in demo but then mysteriously being straight, etc). So yeah, it's not even going to fix the game for that part of the fandom except for a few specific people.
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