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Skippy Granola posted:I just want to make sure I get this: Yeah, pretty much
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theflyingorc posted:Reminder that Trump was ALL IN on the Saudis attacking Qatar being a good thing Puppet. He's a very stupid puppet.
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JasonV posted:Puppet. He's a very stupid puppet. actually i think you'll find that "no puppet, you're the puppet"
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Jun 6, 2017 23:21
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Lote posted:Qatar gets hosed. They lose oil production / have to devote resources to fixing its economy. Saudi Arabia profits from the instability. Good heavens. Do you ever get the feeling like you just stepped sideways out of your own body? Like, how is this real? How could a country get denounced over an unverified news story?
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Jun 6, 2017 23:23
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Skippy Granola posted:Good heavens. It's a little bit more than denounced. Qatar has no land, sea, or air rights to travel through the 7 countries. They import most food. Shipping is looking like it's completely out. Qatar is going to have to fly in all their food for the foreseeable future.
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Skippy Granola posted:Good heavens. coordination and collusion
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Jun 6, 2017 23:25
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Skippy Granola posted:Good heavens. The government is actually important, and good, and when you elect a bunch of morons to run things it actually has catastrophic effects really, really loving fast.
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Jun 6, 2017 23:26
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And our State Department is still hobbled.
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oohhboy posted:This. I find my art is form from function. Having an end goal and creating systems they do what I need efficiently is the name of my game. Maybe that is the same for you? I get bored with Factorio too, if that's what you're asking. Still like it a lot better than minecraft.
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Lote posted:It's a little bit more than denounced. Qatar has no land, sea, or air rights to travel through the 7 countries. They import most food. Shipping is looking like it's completely out. Qatar is going to have to fly in all their food for the foreseeable future. What are you basing that on?
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Grapplejack posted:Lol shut up mcmagic, you're such a disingenuous poo poo. That's a new one... Even for my haters on here.
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theCalamity posted:And our State Department is still hobbled. That's a feature not a bug
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Please, for god's sake, accept you fat old bitch.
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oh please oh please oh please let sessions lose his senate seat for all of five months in the trump administration
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Jun 6, 2017 23:29
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What exactly do they WANT from Qatar? Or are they trying to force them to reach out to Iran for help, further condemning them?
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Jun 6, 2017 23:29
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Boon posted:What are you basing that on? Looks semi-legit: http://www.maritime-executive.com/article/maersk-shipments-to-qatar-halted-by-shipping-ban quote:Whether the LNG market is ultimately affected remains to be seen, and opinion within the industry is divided. However, the ban is already disrupting dry cargo shipments: in a statement to Reuters, Maersk Line said that it has no way to get containers to and from Qatar because feeder transshipments from Jebel Ali to Doha are suspended. So we're not talking about a literal blockade here, but it's meaningfully affecting shipping in and out Qatar.
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gently caress Russia, lets laugh at some weird poo poo. Someone break down this one. I need to know why anyone thought any of this was a good idea. TLDR -- students at Evergreen State College in Olympia, Washington asked for a 'Day of Absence', asking all the white people to leave the school for a day. A liberal professor (indicated by the article) disagrees with this, and then he's deemed a racist and students and a segment of the faculty demand his firing, because he's somehow endangering students. Not to be outdone by asking white people to collectively gently caress off, groups of progressive students started roaming the school grounds with bats, because why not. The cherry on top are the counter-protesters, some identifying themselves with Limp-Bizkit themed protests. This sounds like longform improv.
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Boon posted:What are you basing that on? Maps
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Boon posted:What are you basing that on? https://www.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN18X1YS quote:"We expect disruptions to our Qatar services. The situation is very fluid," the spokesman said, adding that Maersk would notify customers about alternative options as soon as possible.
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Eltoasto posted:What exactly do they WANT from Qatar? Or are they trying to force them to reach out to Iran for help, further condemning them? The Russians want to gently caress up cheap oil so they can make money again, and the best way to do that is gently caress up the Middle East and destroy the US' global position. Lifting the sanctions would be great too. President gently caress Baby is like the answer to all their prayers, and they are going to go all in on taking their shot now because it's probably the last one they'll get. The Saudis just want to get paid. Mulva fucked around with this message at 23:34 on Jun 6, 2017 |
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Eltoasto posted:What exactly do they WANT from Qatar? Or are they trying to force them to reach out to Iran for help, further condemning them? Putin is all about driving a wedge between US allies so he can quietly annex parts of Eastern Europe.
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oohhboy posted:This. I find my art is form from function. Having an end goal and creating systems they do what I need efficiently is the name of my game. Maybe that is the same for you? Tried Portal Knights? Minecraft but with goals and a plot and better graphics.
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That Evergreen poo poo is ridiculous. It's not worth anyone's time to concern themselves with a bunch of idiots.
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Ekster posted:Putin is all about driving a wedge between US allies so he can quietly annex parts of Eastern Europe. Oh yeah, I get the Russian interest. Do the Saudis have a plan or are they just real mad?
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Also note that Putin, much like Trump and sociopaths in general, is a zero-sum player meaning that anything that is bad for the US must be good for him.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:gently caress Russia, lets laugh at some weird poo poo. The part of that you didn't include was that students of color have been participating in a "Day of Absence" for awhile, this year they decided "nah, the white students can bounce for a day" leading to the shitstorm around the professor in question. That's about where I lose interest though.
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If the media wants sessions out just start putting him on time magazine covers
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Eltoasto posted:Oh yeah, I get the Russian interest. Do the Saudis have a plan or are they just real mad? From what I understand the Gulf states are de facto vassal states of the Saudis, except for Qatar since the 90s. At times Qatar even funds rival factions in places like Libya and has decent relations with Iran, archnemesis of the Saudis. With a retard US president they see their chance to force Qatar back in the fold.
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Ekster posted:Putin is all about driving a wedge between US allies so he can quietly annex parts of Eastern Europe. This, but it also deserves to be pointed out that for the Russian public, poking the U.S. in the eye is an end in and of itself. They don't necessarily need to gain any territory or even expand their sphere of influence all that much (although they'd obviously like both). They just need to feel like their country is powerful again, and can thwart American imperialism/unilateralism/however you want to fairly or unfairly characterize it.
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evilweasel posted:oh please oh please oh please Trump loves loyalty.
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So here's what'll be fun: Did Trump know that the whole incident was sparked by the Russian hacking before he sent out the tweets condemning them and throwing them under the bus or after?
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Eltoasto posted:Oh yeah, I get the Russian interest. Do the Saudis have a plan or are they just real mad? It's always a power play when it comes to the Saudis.
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Don't focus too heavily on the planted story, it only represents a minor portion of Saudi-Qatari tensions and is more or less exactly as important as Jenkin's ear.
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Ah, they don't have a deepwater port - got ya. I really want to argue with a conservative about their support for Trump right now over a beer, just to blow off some frustration. Blitz7x posted:Maps 
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Zophar posted:If Sessions resigned couldn't Trump just appoint a new stooge who wouldn't be recused? Still has to go before the senate, and the optics of an AG resignation would look really, really bad for Trump. I'm also not convinced there are many people who would be worse as AG than Session. Bubbacub fucked around with this message at 23:51 on Jun 6, 2017 |
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Zophar posted:If Sessions resigned couldn't Trump just appoint a new stooge who wouldn't be recused? In theory, yes. But the damage is done, and the special counsel exists.
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Zophar posted:If Sessions resigned couldn't Trump just appoint a new stooge who wouldn't be recused? The special counsel is already appointed, and Trump's replacement would need Senate confirmation. And even for a Trump appointee Sessions is a terrible, terrible person and its likely that his replacement would be at least a little better.
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