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Honest post: wwe writing sucks, Bayley gimmick is loving stupid, Alexa has a awesome booty, foochs doesnt know how to write. Horizon Zero Dawn loving sucks and i wish i bought Witcher GOTY instead #hottake
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Bayley should get magical powers. It would fit her character imo. She could use them to harm dolph ziggler
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Jun 7, 2017 00:46
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Bayley should be the new Bikertaker.
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Jun 7, 2017 00:50
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WWE dies when we do it looks like. http://deadspin.com/study-the-median-age-of-tv-wrestling-viewers-has-nearl-1795864450
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Jun 7, 2017 00:51
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i think jokes and fun are better than boring sincere posts, so if you're going to be earnest you had better have something to type worth reading. lemme try!SamuraiFoochs posted:What in the ever loving gently caress does this have to do with anything? Yes, talent botches. That's clearly the issue, not the systematic terrible writing, worse booking, and a fundamental either lack of knowing what works in wrestling, promos, and character work, or just not giving a gently caress that the people backstage are largely terrible. I think there's a strong case to be made that being a safe worker is the most fundamental element of being 'good' in the ring. I like the Miz a lot but it was definitely an issue for a while that anyone doing a high-flying move towards him was running a serious risk of going splat. Great wrestling, or even good wrestling involves a lot more elements and a lot of nuance but the bare minimum is protecting yourself and your opponent in the ring. It's not particularly relevant to the discussion about what ruins people on the main roster, which is often (but not always) more about the work backstage rather than the performers onstage but I do think its worth mentioning in a discussion about what makes a 'good' wrestler vs. a 'bad' wrestler. To give another example, someone commented that Bayley and Sasha suck now on the main roster. I think Bayley is still bad on the mic, maybe even worse than before being called up (which may have to do with the material she's given), but she's capable of putting on a good match. Sasha is also bad on the mic (IMO) but in contrast with Bayley, she has injured other wrestlers and has put herself in danger of being injured herself. She can have, and has had, entertaining matches, but I think she's fundamentally worse than Bayley because we can trust that Bayley will work safely.
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Jun 7, 2017 00:55
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I personally would prefer to just watch wrestling and honestly comment on it rather than wrapping myself in ironic shitposts to convince myself that I'm so much cooler than those plebs who think wrestling is often cool and fun even when heavily flawed. So do I but I'm not futilely expecting WWE to suddenly reverse course and offer a product conducive to that environment.
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Jun 7, 2017 00:59
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Bill Goldberg posted:i drew a picture of bayley im sorry to everyone for my trolling Butt's too small
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Jun 7, 2017 01:00
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Just give me more stuff like the Bates/Dunne UK Championship match. That's all I'm asking for. Is it really that hard?
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WrasslorMonkey posted:Butt's too small thats her face
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Jun 7, 2017 01:02
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Jun 7, 2017 01:24
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Aphrodite posted:They almost never have to talk in NXT or run their own matches. Yet somehow they're still over. Maybe, and this is a longshot, here. NXT is just better at getting talent over than the main roster and the main roster's standards and practices are the nonsense of a 70 year old man whose brain has been fried by steroids. goddamn, those two are great. 
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Jun 7, 2017 01:25
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KungFu Grip posted:this is absolutely not true because they practice ppv matches all the time on house shows. even cena and orton do. wrong as usual.
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Jun 7, 2017 01:36
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If I'm a big Samoa Joe fan but I'm on limited data, should I watch Extreme Rules or this week's Raw? (I bet the answer is Smackdown)
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Jun 7, 2017 01:39
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NXT is better at getting no talent over.
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Jun 7, 2017 01:39
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Cena hasn't even worked a single house show since 2006. Orton since 2009. Anyone who steps into a ring for "practice" knows two things: 1. Vince wants them to either do totally silent hindu squats in there, or get out. And 2. Vince wants the product RAW
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Jun 7, 2017 01:40
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Billzasilver posted:If I'm a big Samoa Joe fan but I'm on limited data, should I watch Extreme Rules or this week's Raw? I'd say Extreme Rules. Match was far better and didn't end with a silly distraction
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Jun 7, 2017 01:41
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Aphrodite posted:NXT is better at getting no talent over. Whereas the main roster can't (or, more accurately, doesn't want to) get anybody over. Guess NXT's better. QED. 
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Jun 7, 2017 01:48
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Cavauro posted:Cena hasn't even worked a single house show since 2006. Nope. Here he is at one in Fairfax VA in 2015. 
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Jun 7, 2017 01:56
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One thing Dave Meltzer keeps repeating over and over again that I am increasingly convinced is right is that there are powerful people in WWE who think that Daniel Bryan's rise is the new template for how to make a star with their modern audience, but they don't realize/accept that Bryan got over IN SPITE of how he was treated, not because of it. The fact that it became possible to retcon years of awful booking into this incredible underdog narrative that synched up with their Evil Authority storyline by pure coincidence, I think its made them drink the kool-aide in the belief that that had actually been their plan all along. If they really think it was the constant embarrassment and crushing defeats and goofy comedy that made people love Daniel Bryan because he was such an underdog, the way they've booked Bayley, Sasha, Dean, Seth, and a bunch of other guys, up to and including Roman, makes a lot more sense. Cavauro posted:Cena hasn't even worked a single house show since 2006. Orton since 2009. I saw Orton wrestle a house show in 2014.
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Jun 7, 2017 01:59
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i mean why would cena need to practice at house shows, dude has an entire segment on botchmania dedicated to him loudly calling matches
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Jun 7, 2017 02:00
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Cavauro posted:Cena hasn't even worked a single house show since 2006. Orton since 2009. Anyone who steps into a ring for "practice" knows two things: 1. Vince wants them to either do totally silent hindu squats in there, or get out. And 2. Vince wants the product RAW I saw Orton at a house show a few months ago.
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Jun 7, 2017 02:01
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Basically the WWE has a template for the #1 babyface. They edit it frequently but it's usually reacting to what the last guy who got over did.
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Jun 7, 2017 02:07
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maybe cross-check Cena/orton at house shows with a source that isn't a bunch of made Up bull stink before you Come around here tooting your piping hot brain. Cena's last house show was February 29 2006
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Jun 7, 2017 02:10
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Two Beans posted:Nope. Here he is at one in Fairfax VA in 2015. this film still is an Obvious taping due to all the context clues that point exactly the opposite way of a house show
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Jun 7, 2017 02:15
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It even says "work" on the ring apron Everyone knows if it were real, it'd say "shoot"
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Jun 7, 2017 02:16
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That is clearly his cousin Juan Cena
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Jun 7, 2017 02:17
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It's really complete bullshit that WWE has never pushed Juan. 
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Jun 7, 2017 02:42
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I've been to multiple house shows since 2006 that had Cena on them tho.
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Jun 7, 2017 02:59
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Chris James 2 posted:I'd say Extreme Rules. Match was far better and didn't end with a silly distraction  Thank you. That's the one I was leaning towards.
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Jun 7, 2017 03:15
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cams posted:joe should squash lesnar i hope they legit beat the poo poo out of each other in the ring and have a good time doing it
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Jun 7, 2017 03:23
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DoctorGonzo posted:Honest post: wwe writing sucks, Bayley gimmick is loving stupid, Alexa has a awesome booty, foochs doesnt know how to write. bayley's butt is much nicer than alexa's butt. as for the rest of this post, i don't know i don't watch anime.
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Jun 7, 2017 03:33
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Fearless_Decoy posted:Just give me more stuff like the Bates/Dunne UK Championship match. That's all I'm asking for. Is it really that hard? 'This is the difference between sports entertainment and MMA!'
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Jun 7, 2017 04:33
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SamuraiFoochs posted:I personally would prefer to just watch wrestling and honestly comment on it You're a good dude, Foochs. DoctorGonzo posted:i wish i bought Witcher GOTY instead This is the default human condition for the last 10,000 years, we've tried to fill it with war, sex, religion, Hulkamania etc. It's just that we're lucky enough to have been alive at a time when it was possible to have the thing our ancestors unknowingly yearned for.
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Jun 7, 2017 05:16
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Cena at a house show last year. I took this picture. It was me. This Cena house show nonsense is fake news.  Also at the same house show! 
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Jun 7, 2017 05:28
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Look I know you all love the fake scoopzman Shave Sheltzer, but I'll have you know that Cavauro is the real scoopzman and if he says Cena hasn't had a house show since 2006, then Cena hasn't had a house show since 2006.
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Jun 7, 2017 05:35
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things that suck and are a piece of poo poo: wrestling on house shows wrestling on tv wrestling on the network giving belts to part timers giving belts to fuckin' jabroni mark geeks who wrestle every week smolamalaoa joe and his cocquattteea clutch slommmmy jeo and his quintana cotch slammy joe and his cococnut cluster capitalization effort posting wrestling
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Jun 7, 2017 06:06
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House show John Cena is actually a clone of the real John Cena.
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Jun 7, 2017 06:06
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If Vince could clone Cena, Rock or Austin he 100% would pick Cena every time.
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Jun 7, 2017 06:25
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here's how to rehab bayley: bring back steph, and have bayley give her the stunner mid-20 minute openning promo every episode of Raw.
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Seams posted:If Vince could clone Cena, Rock or Austin he 100% would pick Cena every time. i dont recall rock or austin learning mandarin just to cut a handful of promos in china
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