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| Labour |
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907 | 49.92% |
| Theresa May Team (Conservative) |
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48 | 2.64% |
| Liberal Democrats |
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31 | 1.71% |
| UKIP |
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13 | 0.72% |
| Plaid Cymru |
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25 | 1.38% |
| Green |
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22 | 1.21% |
| Scottish Socialist Party |
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12 | 0.66% |
| Scottish Conservative Party |
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1 | 0.06% |
| Scottish National Party |
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59 | 3.25% |
| Some Kind of Irish Unionist |
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4 | 0.22% |
| Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian |
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3 | 0.17% |
| Some Kind of Irish Nationalist |
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36 | 1.98% |
| Misc. Far Left Trots |
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35 | 1.93% |
| Misc. Far Right Fash |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Monster Raving Loony |
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49 | 2.70% |
| Space Navies Party |
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39 | 2.15% |
| Independent / Single Issue |
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2 | 0.11% |
| Can't Vote |
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188 | 10.35% |
| Won't Vote |
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8 | 0.44% |
| Spoiled Ballot |
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15 | 0.83% |
| Pissflaps |
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312 | 17.17% |
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Sanitary Naptime posted:I've got a good egg on my Facebook who posted this, might be worth some of you reposting it if you're in labour/snp marginals (if only there were any) Read the comments on this page (and maybe the last one). The best way to keep Tories out of Scottish seats is voting SNP, except maybe Edinburgh South.
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The best way of keeping Tories out of Scottish seats is with brooms and pitchforks imo.
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Jun 7, 2017 13:30
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Where's this from? C'mon, people, source your quotes.
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Jun 7, 2017 13:31
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Coohoolin posted:Read the comments on this page (and maybe the last one). The best way to keep Tories out of Scottish seats is voting SNP, except maybe Edinburgh South. Oh good the fan club. Give up the party line mate, if I wanted that, I'd be asking the National. If there's a chance of a labour candidate over an snp one it should be seized upon.
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Jun 7, 2017 13:32
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Darth Walrus posted:Where's this from? the guardian live blog i've got it on in the background while at work https://twitter.com/HackneyAbbott/s...s-politics-live
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Jun 7, 2017 13:33
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Sanitary Naptime posted:Oh good the fan club. Give up the party line mate, if I wanted that, I'd be asking the National. There isn't a chance of a Labour candidate beating an SNP one except Ian Murray. There is a very good chance of Labour votes letting in the Tories in 13 seats. That's just a fact.
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Jun 7, 2017 13:34
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Jealous Cow posted:Fat American here, but this seems concerning: Remember the thing about tory ideology being evil we were explaining?
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Jun 7, 2017 13:35
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Coohoolin posted:There isn't a chance of a Labour candidate beating an SNP one except Ian Murray. There is a very good chance of Labour votes letting in the Tories in 13 seats. That's just a fact. Guys, poll predictions are facts now! Pack it all up.
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Jun 7, 2017 13:40
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Sanitary Naptime posted:Oh good the fan club. Give up the party line mate, if I wanted that, I'd be asking the National. There isn't (in almost all cases). Missed a few posts. Ian Murray and whoever it is that was parachuted into East Lothian, it's still possible there apparently.
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Jun 7, 2017 13:40
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BigHandsVince posted:Waste of time when the possible maximum they could get would be 5. Maybe. 5 more Labour MPs is a good thing. Especially when the SNP have ruled out a coalition. And you can hardly be shocked that English Labour supporters are wary of a supply & demand deal with the SNP considering what happened the last time a Labour government had one of those with the Nats.
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Jun 7, 2017 13:40
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forkboy84 posted:5 more Labour MPs is a good thing. Especially when the SNP have ruled out a coalition. If you're referring to Miliband, he repeatedly ruled out any kind of arrangement.
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Jun 7, 2017 13:43
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If there are any lurking Colcestrians: You're voting Lib Dem I'm afraid, sorry.
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Jun 7, 2017 13:43
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Coohoolin posted:If you're referring to Miliband, he repeatedly ruled out any kind of arrangement. No, I'm referring to 1979. If you want to be a pedant, maybe it was a straight supply/demand delay, you still get the point. Pedantry is dull.
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Jun 7, 2017 13:46
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Jose posted:the guardian live blog i've got it on in the background while at work She says she's looking forward to being back by mid-July after doctors told her the illness could last 30 years.
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Jun 7, 2017 13:47
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WeAreTheRomans posted:Why would Shinners speak in Scottish Gaelic rather than Gaeilge? kustomkarkommando posted:Its just not going to happen Jealous Cow posted:Fat American here, but this seems concerning: Her anti-encryption rhetoric and her plan to give the executive sweeping powers during the Brexit are even more concerning.
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Jun 7, 2017 13:47
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Also, Bath residents should vote Lib Dem. Labour is unofficially abandoning the campaign and throwing their weight behind the Dems, while concentrating their resources on North-East Somerset (and the NES Lib Dems are doing the exact same thing - their leaflet attacks the Bath MP, Ben Howlett, not the NES MP, Jacob Rees-Mogg).
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Jun 7, 2017 13:47
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forkboy84 posted:No, I'm referring to 1979. Ah, the time Labour (scottish labour, even) hosed itself over by betraying the SNP with an undemocratic devolution referendum state, yeah, that's totally the SNP's fault.
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Jun 7, 2017 13:48
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Coohoolin posted:Ah, the time Labour (scottish labour, even) hosed itself over by betraying the SNP with an undemocratic devolution referendum state, yeah, that's totally the SNP's fault. Well, yes, nobody forced them to vote with the Tories to force an election that saw the SNP lose 9 seats, Labour lose 50 & Margaret Thatcher become PM.
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Jun 7, 2017 13:49
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Diane Abbot strikes me as the type of person I would describe as having a heart of gold and a head full of rocking horse poo poo. Not bad for the party's election chances but a shame for her personally.
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Jun 7, 2017 13:50
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forkboy84 posted:Well, yes, nobody forced them to vote with the Tories to force an election that saw the SNP lose 9 seats, Labour lose 50 & Margaret Thatcher become PM. You're really gonna blame the SNP for the stupid stupid stupid 40% quoracy threshold that they were warned against doing a million times?
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Jun 7, 2017 13:51
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Coohoolin posted:You're really gonna blame the SNP for the stupid stupid stupid 40% quoracy threshold that they were warned against doing a million times? No, I blame Labour for the stupid referendum, I blame the SNP for voting with the Tories in the the vote of confidence that lead to the rise of Thatcher. Said that already.
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Jun 7, 2017 13:53
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Ban all nationalist parties. Rule Britannia.
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Jun 7, 2017 13:56
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forkboy84 posted:No, I blame Labour for the stupid referendum, I blame the SNP for voting with the Tories in the the vote of confidence that lead to the rise of Thatcher. Said that already. Labour knew it would trigger a no confidence vote. Labour lost the election. The stupid referendum was an incredible betrayal, they have no one to blame but themselves.
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Jun 7, 2017 13:56
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I think people are putting the cart before the horse on the Australian compulsory voting = racism thing. It's exactly the same thing as wanting PR in the UK. Ukip would have had more seats last election, but it would have been more democratic. Australians are bigotted fuckwits. Compulsory voting allows a better democracy. Our democracy allows bigotted fuckwits to have power. If anything I'd imagine populist racism during campaigns would actually be a bit reduced from a hypothetical Australia that didn't have compulsory voting. The racists are going to show up anyway, you only need to make sure they vote for you, not stroke their cocks enough to get them enthused.
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Jun 7, 2017 13:58
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Important: People using tactical voting websites should be aware that they can give misleading advice 1. Poll aggregation means they usually mix in earlier polls with recent ones. If they don't use a trend forecasting model this means they are operating on potentially outdated data, giving worse Labour performance than they should. 2. Some aggregators are bullshit. Electoral calculus for example uses a 5% value for the polls -> actual error that is literally arbitarily chosen. https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/hungparl.html 3. The party you should vote for to have the highest chance of reducing the tory majority is often *not* the party you want to vote for to increase the chance the tories actually lose their majority. Specifically third party picks will help in scenarios where labour vote share is accurate/overestimated and the late shift in polling results isn't real in which case they might shift the tories from having a huge majority to a lesser one. But in scenarios where labour vote share is *underestimated* (or like, YouGov is right) and there is a *real late shift in public opinion*, which often coincides with the real possibility of the tories not winning, you actually need to vote labour to have any hope of making that happen. In short, be very careful with tactical voting websites. If the choices are close, vote Labour instead.
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Jun 7, 2017 13:58
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I can't believe we need tactical voting websites. Surely you can tell which party is most likely to beat the Tories in one (your own) seat?
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Jun 7, 2017 14:01
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https://twitter.com/JamieRoss7/status/872437184518860800 No comment other than it is very surreal to have a situation where a party is pitching for votes based on the favourable appeal of the opposition's leader.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:01
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I've thought those tactical vote websites were bullshit ever since the beginning where they were advocating a Lib Dem vote in Clive Lewis's constituency. Most of the people I see pushing them on social media are Lib Dems or Greens, too. I wouldn't be surprised if they were made by Lib Dems and slightly biased in their favour.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:02
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sassassin posted:Ban all nationalist parties. British nationalism is also bad. Only allow internationalist parties to stand.
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peanut- posted:https://twitter.com/JamieRoss7/status/872437184518860800 gently caress Sturgeon, she knows this plays into the Tories hands.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:03
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We should only have one party.
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forkboy84 posted:Well, yes, nobody forced them to vote with the Tories to force an election that saw the SNP lose 9 seats, Labour lose 50 & Margaret Thatcher become PM. Time is a flat circle. This was always the danger. Sturgeon knows the Tories will be good for the SNP. A curse upon the SNP. I hope May fucks Scotland as hard as she's going to gently caress the rest of us. May you never be free. Regarde Aduck fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Jun 7, 2017 |
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Jun 7, 2017 14:04
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forkboy84 posted:British nationalism is also bad. Only allow internationalist parties to stand. If international parties pledge to work for the betterment of the British people as part of a united government they are welcome to knock on my door and make their case (in English, please).
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Jun 7, 2017 14:06
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Baron Corbyn posted:gently caress Sturgeon, she knows this plays into the Tories hands. Who gives a gently caress though? Like does the ⛧Coalition of Chaos⛧ line actually work? The tories were literally in a coalition only a couple of years ago.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:07
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my local labour candidate is shite but we're a safe seat so I guess it's expected, the bastard has my vote.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:07
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ThomasPaine posted:Well obviously it would be a confidence and supply arrangement. Between that and the duck tweets I think it would qualify Gerry Adams as The Boy.
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Jun 7, 2017 14:09
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Guavanaut posted:You can only take the oath or affirmation in English, Welsh, Scottish Gaelic, or Cornish. Shameful there's no Scots oath imo. I figured it might be this, thanks. Truly amazing that Westminster codifies its hatred of its Irish subjects at the most fundamental level.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Who gives a gently caress though? Like does the ⛧Coalition of Chaos⛧ line actually work? The tories were literally in a coalition only a couple of years ago. That wasnt a coalition. It was more of an abusive relationship
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Latest Labour video (or at least I'd not seen it before): https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/872437880622391296 dispatch_async fucked around with this message at 14:19 on Jun 7, 2017 |
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I too can't bring myself to vote lib dem, although I'm not all that sure they'd be the second best chance these days. https://i.imgur.com/McJFmPN.png UKIP aren't standing this time around so that's probably going to tories mostly. Still, the jam man has my vote. Also my candidate is the former drummer of the Vapours 
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