Trump Thread II: The man make a tweet

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Ra Ra Rasputin: Apr 2, 2011

Comstar posted:

And THERE IT IS. THE RUSSIAN CONNECTION. The man the President wants to be the FBI head's law firm is a consultant for Rosneft.

http://www.energyintel.com/pages/articlesummary/895380/us-firm-to-consult-rosneft-on-lng

And who, you may ask, is Rosneft? This article from 2 hours ago:

All roads lead to Russia.

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mcmagic: Jul 1, 2004; If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

Wray seems like a GOP Party hack. Again, no Democrat should be complicit in this nomination.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:10

Comstar: Apr 20, 2007; Are you happy now?

SO, Russia planted a fake news story that got Qatar in a pickle.Trump encouraged it.

2 days later, Russia asks for their loan of 1/5 of the state oil company back from Qatar.

IS THIS WHY RUSSIA PLANTED THE STORY??? And Trump was their agent who did it!

Russia gets their loan back at a substantial discount, billions presumably.

And the guy whom works at the Legal outfit that works for said state oil company is going to be the next Head of the FBI.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:12

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How many people are connected to Rosnef exactly?

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:16

Technical Analysis: Nov 21, 2007; I got 99 problems but the British ain't one.

What Charlie said, don't start panicking before we have any evidence of anything. Wait and see what's going on before you start getting chubbies over WW3.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:17

mango sentinel: Jan 5, 2001; by sebmojo

mcmagic posted:

Wray seems like a GOP Party hack. Again, no Democrat should be complicit in this nomination.

He's got reasonable bona fides for the position and in any other circumstance should sail through, but the fact he's spent the last decade using his in-depth knowledge of the DoJ and FBI to defend ultra rich criminal assholes should raise more than a few eyebrows.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:18

Shimrra Jamaane: Aug 10, 2007; Obscure to all except those well-versed in Yuuzhan Vong lore.

I'm still baffled by the Goon who was worried that a terrorist attack in Iran was going to allow Trump to shut down the Russian investigation.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:19

St. Dogbert: Mar 17, 2011

Technical Analysis posted:

What Charlie said, don't start panicking before we have any evidence of anything. Wait and see what's going on before you start getting chubbies over WW3.

WWIII should be the least of our concerns. Vladimir Putin essentially controls the world right now.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:21

botany: Apr 27, 2013; by Lowtax

St. Dogbert posted:

WWIII should be the least of our concerns. Vladimir Putin essentially controls the world right now.

"essentially", as in, not

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:22

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Shimrra Jamaane posted:

I'm still baffled by the Goon who was worried that a terrorist attack in Iran was going to allow Trump to shut down the Russian investigation.

To be fair, when the tiny, obese hands of government don't know how the system works they can and will do dumbshit to obstruct and cajole everyone into complying. Whether or not this effort succeeds is another matter.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:23

oohhboy: Jun 8, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Nothing is going to stop the investigation. At best all this is just going to suck the already thin media oxygen from it for a while. Donald drops more bombs than a B-52 everyday than a carpet bombing run.

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mango sentinel posted:

He's got reasonable bona fides for the position and in any other circumstance should sail through, but the fact he's spent the last decade using his in-depth knowledge of the DoJ and FBI to defend ultra rich criminal assholes should raise more than a few eyebrows.

He's a GW Bush and Christie party hack. This is NOT the non political person we were told by GOP senators they would vote for. NTM his obligatory Russian ties.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:25

BarbarianElephant: Feb 12, 2015; The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

Technical Analysis posted:

What Charlie said, don't start panicking before we have any evidence of anything. Wait and see what's going on before you start getting chubbies over WW3.

The Middle East is a powder keg. Anything could be the "Archduke Ferdinand" event. Something that might be minor if it took place in, say South America, could be the straw that breaks the camel's back in the Middle East.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:26

CyberPingu: Sep 15, 2013; If you're not striving to improve, you'll end up going backwards.

BarbarianElephant posted:

The Middle East is a powder keg. Anything could be the "Archduke Ferdinand" event. Something that might be minor if it took place in, say South America, could be the straw that breaks the camel's back in the Middle East.

Care to fit any more cliches into that sentence?

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:28

oohhboy: Jun 8, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

South Korea temporally halts THAAD because of environmental reasons as they do an impact report. You would think they would do that before they started installation.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40183448

BarbarianElephant posted:

The Middle East is a powder keg. Anything could be the "Archduke Ferdinand" event. Something that might be minor if it took place in, say South America, could be the straw that breaks the camel's back in the Middle East.

Trump is throwing plenty of fire around for no reason and we are likely pass "Archduke Ferdinand"already. This is moving very quickly so we will know very soon.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:29

Technical Analysis: Nov 21, 2007; I got 99 problems but the British ain't one.

BarbarianElephant posted:

The Middle East is a powder keg. Anything could be the "Archduke Ferdinand" event. Something that might be minor if it took place in, say South America, could be the straw that breaks the camel's back in the Middle East.

Agreed, but there's no point in panicking over every event before we even have any details.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:29

botany: Apr 27, 2013; by Lowtax

BarbarianElephant posted:

The Middle East is a powder keg. Anything could be the "Archduke Ferdinand" event. Something that might be minor if it took place in, say South America, could be the straw that breaks the camel's back in the Middle East.

would you say that the next 6 months will be critical, mr. friedman

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:29

mdemone: Mar 14, 2001

Comstar posted:

And THERE IT IS. THE RUSSIAN CONNECTION. The man the President wants to be the FBI head's law firm is a consultant for Rosneft.

http://www.energyintel.com/pages/articlesummary/895380/us-firm-to-consult-rosneft-on-lng

And who, you may ask, is Rosneft? This article from 2 hours ago:

The Qatar Investment Authority and Glencore, the Swiss-based commodities giant, formed a partnership to buy the 19.5% stake in Russia's energy jewel at a time when Mr. Putin's government needed cash.

So check it out. QHG Holdings was incorporated by Glencore and Qatar, then on December 30 2016 two things happened: Glencore terminated its appointment as a member, and Qatar Holding LLC was appointed in their place. This is all in the Cayman Islands.

QHG Shares Pte. Ltd. is registered with Singapore's government. The company was formerly known as Catalpo until Glencore left, now it is the shareholder of QHG Holdings. That shareholder company is under the management of Intertrust. Intertrust's major shareholder is Blackstone Group, i.e. Stephen Schwarzman. (See the flowchart in the middle of this image.)

Schwarzman has billions in Russian dark money flowing into McConnell's super-PAC, and Trump appointed Schwarzman as chairman of the strategic and policy forum.

And that's not all.

mdemone posted:

As before, new additions appear in bold; as-yet-unverified information now appears in italics.

The Players

Leonard Blavatnik is a Ukraine-born American businessman. He made his fortune through diversified investments in myriad companies through his conglomerate company, Access Industries. In 2015, he was named Britain's richest man with an estimated net worth of �17.1 billion as of April 2015. He and a friend from university, Viktor Vekselberg, joined with Mikhail Fridman's Alfa Group to form the AAR venture, which in 2011 was responsible for stopping the BP merger with Rosneft Oil, the Russian state-owned petrocorp (1). In March 2013, at Deutsche Bank in Frankfurt, there was a transfer of nearly $28 billion in U.S. currency from an account controlled by Rosneft, to one controlled by four Russian billionaires: Blavatnik, Vekselberg, Mikhail Fridman, and German Khan (2). Rosneft Chief Executive Igor Sechin, often described as Russia's second-most-powerful man, was the central figure behind the deal.

In addition to funding Trump's inauguration party, Blavatnik has long funded Mitch McConnell's super-PAC, the Senate Leadership Fund; see FEC filings showing donations of $1M in December 2015, $500k in April 2016, and $1M on October 25 2016; note that AI Altep is a shell company of Access Industries (3). Also notice that Stephen Schwarzman of Blackstone shows up for more than $2M on the October 25 filing, having also given $370k just one week prior. In October 2016, the dark-money super-PAC One Nation donates $11M to the Senate Leadership Fund, with which they share an office.

Following his election, Trump appointed as Secretary of Transportation Elaine Chao -- who is Mitch McConnell's wife and donated $42k to campaigns of Senators who would later vote on her confirmation, including her husband. During the Obama-Trump transition, McConnell had raised doubts about the CIA's report that Russian hacking affected the election, and made clear that "he would consider any effort by the Obama White House to challenge the Russians publicly an act of partisan politics" (4). In mid-2016, McConnell's brother-in-law Jim Breyer (husband of Chao's sister Angela, the CEO of the Bank of China, and a billionaire investor in his own right) joined the board of Schwarzman's Blackstone Group. Almost a year later, following a $110B+ arms deal brokered with Saudi Arabia by Jared Kushner, the Saudis subsequently announced a $20B+ investment into Blackstone Group for U.S. infrastructure. Blackstone, especially the real estate arm led by Jonathan Gray, has long been involved with Kushner's enterprises.

A handwritten ledger surfaced in Ukraine in 2016 with dollar amounts and dates next to the name of Paul Manafort, who was then Donald Trump�s campaign chairman. Ukrainian investigators called it evidence of off-the-books payments from a pro-Russian political party. Financial records confirmed that at least $1.2 million in payments listed in the ledger next to Manafort�s name were actually received by his consulting firm in the United States in 2007 and 2009 (5).

The Timeline

On June 14 2016, House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy and Speaker Paul Ryan have separate meetings with Ukrainian Prime Minister Vladimir Groysman, in which Groysman talks about Russia's financial support of populist politicians and their efforts to undermine democratic governments in Eastern Europe. The next day, McCarthy joked to Ryan and other GOP leaders that he thinks "Putin pays�Trump", after which Ryan laughs and tells the group not to leak the conversation (read the transcript here).

In August 2016, CIA Director John Brennan informs Congressional leadership (the Gang of Eight, as well as Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan) that Russia is intervening in the American election on behalf of Trump. On August 4 2016, Brennan confronts the head of Russia's FSB about the matter.

According to the famous "Steele Dossier" that comes to light in December 2016, one of Steele's inside sources describes the July 2016 meeting between Igor Sechin and Carter Page, Trump policy adviser from his campaign and foreign policy team. (In October, Russian experts would conclude that the inside source was probably a former KGB general, Oleg Erovinkin. In late December 2016, Erovinkin is found dead in his car.) According to the dossier, Sechin offers to broker a 19% sale of Rosneft to Trump's associates in return for the lifting of economic sanctions on Russia (image). Page has an audio recording of Trump promising to fulfill his end of the bargain. During the months of the general election, Trump's campaign has at least 18 undisclosed meetings/contacts with Russian officials.

On Election Day 2016, Stephen Schwarzman's housekeeper is pushed under a subway train (image, bottom]).

Following Trump's victory in November, the transition team quickly began moving to develop sanction relief for Russia, causing alarmed State Dept. officials to urge legislation codifying the sanctions. In early December, Kushner has a meeting with the Russian ambassador/spymaster Sergey Kislyak at Trump Tower, in which the men discuss the possibility of a secret back-channel for communications between the Trump team and the Kremlin.

In January 2017, 19.5% of Rosneft Oil is sold to a shell-of-shell-of-shell holding owned by (at the end of the chain) the trust company Intertrust [see the middle of image for holdings flowchart from Reuters, and tracing through shells from QHG to Intertrust]. Intertrust's major shareholder is Blackstone Group and therefore Stephen Schwarzman, who had been named chairman of the strategic and policy forum by Trump in December (he was offered a full-time role in the administration, but declined). Schwarzman now controls around 19% of Rosneft, as promised by Sechin, and has been seen with Trump at Mar-a-lago and many public events (image, bottom]).

On January 10 2017, Susan Rice, (Obama�s NSA), consults Michael Flynn about a plan to retake Raqqa from ISIS with the help of Syrian Kurdish forces. (The plan would have been executed under Trump, so Obama�s team wanted Flynn�s approval.) Flynn�s decision is to forestall the attack, an answer that happens to conform to the wishes of the Turkish government, which was benefiting from his lobbying work for which Flynn was paid at least $500,000. While Trump would eventually approve the military plan, Flynn�s decision 10 days before Trump took office delays the operation by several months. Flynn informs the Trump transition team that he is under investigation by the FBI for having been a foreign agent.

On January 27 2017, Donald Trump invites FBI Director James Comey to the White House for a private dinner, in which he asks for Comey's loyalty and assurances that there is no Russia investigation.

In February, Trump asks Pence and Sessions to leave the Oval Office before pressuring Comey again to drop the Flynn investigation; Comey writes a detailed memo about this conversation. In March, Trump asked the director of national intelligence and the director of the National Security Agency to make statements confirming that the investigation had cleared him.

In late March, Flynn requests immunity from the Senate Intelligence Committee and the FBI in return for his testimony; his lawyer claims he has "a story to tell". On April 1 2017, this request is denied.

On April 27 2017, the "Mayflower Meeting" is held, shortly before Trump's first foreign policy speech, having been organized by his campaign chair Paul Manafort and Kremlin-think-tank coordinator Jacob Heilbrunn. In the room are Jeff Sessions, Jared Kushner, and Manafort, along with ambassadors from Russia, Singapore, and the Philippines, and unidentified representatives from Rosneft. Trump's Secretary of Commerce is Wilbur Ross. He is the former vice-chair of the Bank of Cyprus, of which Vekselberg is the major shareholder. Ross, Schwarzman, Blavatnik, and McConnell/Chao would put together an $1T infrastructure plan that would depend on foreign money, as Chao admitted to Sean Hannity on Fox News on March 1 2017.

On May 9 2017, James Comey is fired as FBI Director, the week after he visited the "rocket docket" in federal court for the Eastern District of Virginia, and just days after he requested more resources for the Trump/Russia investigation. On May 10 2017, Trump meets with Russian FM Sergey Lavrov and Russian ambassador/spymaster Sergey Kislyak, in the Oval Office, without American press allowed but in the presence of Russian state media. At this meeting, Trump divulges code-word classified information from an Israeli intelligence source regarding the ISIS laptop-bomb plot; this source is said to be the most important double agent now working in ISIS, according to the Israeli Directorate of Military Intelligence (Aman). Trump also refers to Comey as a "nut job", and claims to the Russians that the investigation will be over now that Comey is gone (6). The same day of the Oval Office meeting with Russian diplomats, a federal grand jury in EDVA hands down multiple subpoenas for business/lobbying associates of former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn, regarding his foreign contacts in Russia (David Zaikin) and Turkey (Ekim Alptekin).

On May 11 2017, the Strategic Campaign Group's office is raided in Annapolis by the FBI and U.S. Marshals following the warrants handed down by EDVA from two separate grand juries, corresponding to ~25 indictments regarding money-laundering and many other charges. Less than a week later, former FBI Director Robert Mueller is appointed by the Deputy Attorney General to oversee the Russia investigation. In testimony before the House Intelligence Committee on May 23 2017, former CIA Director John Brennan verified that in August 2016 he had informed the Gang of Eight and others (including Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan) that Russia was intervening in the election on Trump's behalf.

References:
1. Yenikeyeff, Shamil, "BP, Russian billionaires, and the Kremlin: a Power Triangle that never was", Oxford Energy Comment, November 23, 2011
2. Vardi, Nathan, "The Four Horsemen of Russia's Economic Apocalypse", Forbes, February 9, 2015
3. SEC statement identifying Al Altep as a shell of Access Industries
4. Entous et al. "Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House", Washington Post, December 9 2016
5. AP Exclusive: Manafort firm received Ukraine ledger payout
6. Apuzzo et al. "NYTimes, May 19 2017

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oohhboy: Jun 8, 2013; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

The big sign will be if KSA changes it's Military posture. You can't hide that.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:32

Toaster Beef: Jan 23, 2007; that's not nature's way

It should be noted within those New Jersey primary results that:

a) Murphy received less than 50% of his party's vote (about 48%), while
b) Johnson and Wisniewski (two more progressive candidates) received about 22% of the vote each.

A couple of takeaways:

a) New Jersey is ready and willing to become a progressive bastion, and Murphy (assuming he wins) would have a Democratic state legislature to work with, but
b) He's going to have problems getting progressive folks on board with him, because they hate his Goldman Sachs history and the fact that he's dumped $18 million into this election. Would it be enough to cost him the election? Eh, probably not. It's just going to be a weird race to keep track of.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:32

BarbarianElephant: Feb 12, 2015; The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

CyberPingu posted:

Care to fit any more cliches into that sentence?

I could just say "The Middle East wants war, and the smallest thing could be the pretext, as it was in Europe just prior to WW1." Happy now?

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:32

Dr Kool-AIDS: Mar 26, 2004

oohhboy posted:

South Korea temporally halts THAAD because of environmental reasons as they do an impact report. You would think they would do that before they started installation.

That's not the real reason.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:33

derra: Dec 29, 2012

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

Last night was NJ primary to see who from each party will run for Chris Christy's replacement and numbers are very interesting.

http://www.nj.gov/state/elections/election-results/2009-official-primary-elect-governor-tallies-062909.pdf

I don't think the Republicans have a chance in hell in the general but not sure 2009 is a good baseline year for the Democratic primary, as we did have a Democratic incumbent as well. How do 2013 numbers compare?

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:33

mango sentinel: Jan 5, 2001; by sebmojo

mcmagic posted:

He's a GW Bush and Christie party hack.

Where are you getting this?

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:34

Oxxidation: Jul 22, 2007

derra posted:

I don't think the Republicans have a chance in hell in the general but not sure 2009 is a good baseline year for the Democratic primary, as we did have a Democratic incumbent as well. How do 2013 numbers compare?

The GOP is going to get blown out. Christie's name is mud here.

The problem is that Murphy is a Goldman Sachs hack who drowned the election in money, which is a repeat of Corzine, aka the greasy gently caress who paved the way for Christie in the first place. loving machine politics, man.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:34

Xombie: May 22, 2004; Soul Thrashing
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:

I'm still baffled by the Goon who was worried that a terrorist attack in Iran was going to allow Trump to shut down the Russian investigation.

I keep pointing out that these "nothing matters" people aren't suffering from pessimism but in fact intellectual laziness, yet people don't believe me.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:36

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Toaster Beef posted:

It should be noted within those New Jersey primary results that:

a) Murphy received less than 50% of his party's vote (about 48%), while
b) Johnson and Wisniewski (two more progressive candidates) received about 22% of the vote each.

A couple of takeaways:

a) New Jersey is ready and willing to become a progressive bastion, and Murphy (assuming he wins) would have a Democratic state legislature to work with, but
b) He's going to have problems getting progressive folks on board with him, because they hate his Goldman Sachs history and the fact that he's dumped $18 million into this election. Would it be enough to cost him the election? Eh, probably not. It's just going to be a weird race to keep track of.

People didn't really pay attention to the race and the turnout was low. The thing you have to remember about NJ politics is that the county party heads get to pick who is on the Dem line on the ballot and they pretty much anointed Murphy months ago. I voted for Wisniewski and I literally had to stare at the ballot for 5 mins to find his name.

Murphy is going to win the general. He's up 25 points in the polls already and he's running against someone with Christie's stink all over her. He also has a decent platform and has been saying the right things. I guess it's possible that he ends up being a good governor but I'm not getting my hopes up.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:37

Night10194: Feb 13, 2012; We'll start,
like many good things,
with a bear.

Xombie posted:

I keep pointing out that these "nothing matters" people aren't suffering from pessimism but in fact intellectual laziness, yet people don't believe me.

I think it's less laziness and more being traumatized, because let's face it, last year was traumatic.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:41

Comstar: Apr 20, 2007; Are you happy now?

mdemone posted:

So check it out. QHG Holdings was incorporated by Glencore and Qatar, then on December 30 2016 two things happened: Glencore terminated its appointment as a member, and Qatar Holding LLC was appointed in their place. This is all in the Cayman Islands.

QHG Shares Pte. Ltd. is registered with Singapore's government. The company was formerly known as Catalpo until Glencore left, now it is the shareholder of QHG Holdings. That shareholder company is under the management of Intertrust. Intertrust's major shareholder is Blackstone Group, i.e. Stephen Schwarzman. (See the flowchart in the middle of this image.)

Schwarzman has billions in Russian dark money flowing into McConnell's super-PAC, and Trump appointed Schwarzman as chairman of the strategic and policy forum.

And that's not all.

How much money is 19% of Rosneft worth? Because Russia and Trump look to be trying to start a war (by putting pressure on Qatar) to get it back, cheap. That's the motive. Russia sold it to Qatar and wanted to get it back, and Trump was the man who can make it happen.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:45

Zapf Dingbat: Jan 9, 2001

Night10194 posted:

I think it's less laziness and more being traumatized, because let's face it, last year was traumatic.

The nothing matters comments feel a lot like clinical depression.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:45

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Zapf Dingbat posted:

The nothing matters comments feel a lot like clinical depression.

Por que no los dos?

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:46

mdemone: Mar 14, 2001

Comstar posted:

How much money is 19% of Rosneft worth? Because Russia and Trump look to be trying to start a war (by putting pressure on Qatar) to get it back, cheap. That's the motive. Russia sold it to Qatar and wanted to get it back, and Trump was the man who can make it happen.

Rosneft is around ~$60B, so we are talking ten billion or so.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:47

AceOfFlames: Oct 9, 2012

Zapf Dingbat posted:

The nothing matters comments feel a lot like clinical depression.

Ever heard of "depressive realism"?

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:47

mango sentinel: Jan 5, 2001; by sebmojo

Comstar posted:

How much money is 19% of Rosneft worth?

15 billion dollars

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:47

derra: Dec 29, 2012

Oxxidation posted:

The GOP is going to get blown out. Christie's name is mud here.

The problem is that Murphy is a Goldman Sachs hack who drowned the election in money, which is a repeat of Corzine, aka the greasy gently caress who paved the way for Christie in the first place. loving machine politics, man.

I live in Bergen and am well aware of how terrible the Democratic machine is. I just didn't think it would be too useful comparing Democratic primary turnout this year against a year when we had a (terrible) incumbent on the ballot.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:48

Crain: Jun 27, 2007; I had a beer once with Stephen Miller and now I like him.

I also tried to ban someone from a Discord for pointing out what an unrelenting shithead I am! I'm even dumb enough to think it worked!

Spaced God posted:

https://twitter.com/ReutersTech/status/872183197362212865
Oh my god please let there be some sort of dumb supreme court case about why that goon calling Trump an inbred dogfucker can't be constiutionally blocked on Twitter

Soooooo, this seems like a bad case for two reasons. One being the potential implications down the line, and the other being just a poor focus.

#1: I don't think this is really a constitutional question. Lots of people have brought up records keeping laws in relation to tweets being deleted, and sure it's something that should be upheld, but it's not a constitutional situation and I don't think the SC will hear it because of that.

#2: If it does go to the SC I don't think the result, if they rule that blocking people is against the first amendment, will be limited to the Office of the President or elected officials in general. Which could mean that blocking people in online forums is unconstitutional. Basically it would state that: Yes, the first amendment guarantees you an audience wherever you want one. Or at least a venue.

Which could be good or bad in the long run, but with the current state of internet discourse and RU backed harassment rings I think it'd be a step back.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:48

skylined!: Apr 6, 2012; THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

[quote="mcmagic" post=""473128630"]but I'm not getting my hopes up.
[/quote]

trump thread: I'm not getting my hopes up

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:51

Mozi: Apr 4, 2004; Forms change so fast
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Memory is smoke
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oohhboy posted:

South Korea temporally halts THAAD because of environmental reasons as they do an impact report. You would think they would do that before they started installation.

This is because we sent over the other 4 after the election without telling the elected Prez to try to make 'facts on the ground,' as I think those people put it. And so he was understandably upset.

# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:54

Senf: Nov 12, 2006

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# ? Jun 7, 2017 14:59

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