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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
This poll is closed.
Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

mfcrocker posted:

I'm trying to check this with friends who work in the civil service but it doesn't seem to have filtered down to the rank and file
Surely the civil service prepares for most possible outcomes?

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MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

forkboy84 posted:

This, but with a bottle of bourbon that was 45%ABV & on sale for £20 in Tesco.

I got through most of a bottle of Tesco value blended scotch (I have it for cooking don't judge me) the night Trump was elected

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/872395579451682816

#Libdemfightback

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Al-Saqr posted:

ITS SO loving UNFAIR ITS LIKE TORIES HAVE A MAGIC INVINCIBILITY SHIELD OF FUCKHEADS LIKE WHY CANT LABOUR EVER CATCH A loving BREAK gently caress.

This would be loving fantastic for Labour

Blasmeister
Jan 15, 2012




2Time TRP Sack Race Champion

Al-Saqr posted:

ITS SO loving UNFAIR ITS LIKE TORIES HAVE A MAGIC INVINCIBILITY SHIELD OF FUCKHEADS LIKE WHY CANT LABOUR EVER CATCH A loving BREAK gently caress.

This would be the most hilarious outcome by some margin, don't get too upset about it.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Zephro posted:

Surely the civil service prepares for most possible outcomes?

Brexit.

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

Is a hung parliament that big of a deal? Surely the SNP and Labour could work out a confidence & supply agreement, poo poo its business as usual back home (thanks PR!)

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Saros posted:

Is a hung parliament that big of a deal? Surely the SNP and Labour could work out a confidence & supply agreement, poo poo its business as usual back home (thanks PR!)

Its a big deal in as much as it's catastrophic for the Tories

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...
Right but weren't they explicitly told not to do this by the gubmint? I think there are Rules and Procedures for elections that say you gotta prepare for most outcomes (I doubt they're prepared for a Green majority, but still).

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Saros posted:

Is a hung parliament that big of a deal? Surely the SNP and Labour could work out a confidence & supply agreement, poo poo its business as usual back home (thanks PR!)
The SNP and Labour disagree on the single most important issue currently facing the country

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Zephro posted:

The SNP and Labour completely disagree on the single most important issue currently facing the country

The NHS? Full fascism? Killing the poor?

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

Digiwizzard posted:

The benefit is that the vast majority of people now automatically have time off to vote instead of having to arrange it with their boss.

what's that got to do with OT pay?

mfcrocker
Jan 31, 2004



Hot Rope Guy

Zephro posted:

Surely the civil service prepares for most possible outcomes?

Yeah, I think this is in response to publicly available polls rather than someone having an informed word in the ear

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.

The SNP care about brexit because it's an excuse for a second referendum

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


TheRat posted:

The NHS? Full fascism? Killing the poor?

Brexit.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Loving Africa Chaps posted:

The SNP care about brexit because it's an excuse for a second referendum

And considering the second indyref looks very very unlikely to succeed with current polls, I don't really see it happening anyway


I was being facetious :v:

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

Zephro posted:

The SNP and Labour disagree on the single most important issue currently facing the country

They aren't idiots though, i'm sure the SNP would rather a Labour directed Brexit that might even slide into a soft Brexit rather than the Tories ham handed insanity.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Saros posted:

They aren't idiots though, i'm sure the SNP would rather a Labour directed Brexit that might even slide into a soft Brexit rather than the Tories ham handed insanity.

No, they would rather a disastrous Brexit because that increases the chance of independence.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

forkboy84 posted:

No, they would rather a disastrous Brexit because that increases the chance of independence.

You know them better than I do, but this strikes me as very harsh

Digiwizzard
Dec 23, 2003


Pork Pro

Cerv posted:

what's that got to do with OT pay?

That's what happens when you work on a public holiday mate.

Verizian
Dec 18, 2004
The spiky one.

TheRat posted:

Yougov's June 7th update:

https://twitter.com/YouGov/status/872432058773233664



e: This would be -28 CON and +37 LAB compared to 2015

If accurate this is a win. Current seats are 330 Tory and 229 Labour, Tories were already saying if May doesn't gain them 80 or more seats she'd be out in weeks and if they can only scrape together a minority Then it's either another election with Corbyn still on the rise or they have to deal with Brexit while relying on other parties to pass votes in parliament. Even the indignity of PM Bozza would be worth it to watch him stumble through, begging for votes like scraps.

Especially as Boris and Trump hate each other like equally charged magnets.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Saros posted:

They aren't idiots though, i'm sure the SNP would rather a Labour directed Brexit that might even slide into a soft Brexit rather than the Tories ham handed insanity.
Maybe, but it'd be a significant obstacle to any agreement

Ewan
Sep 29, 2008

Ewan is tired of his reputation as a serious Simon. I'm more of a jokester than you people think. My real name isn't even Ewan, that was a joke it's actually MARTIN! LOL fooled you again, it really is Ewan! Look at that monkey with a big nose, Ewan is so random! XD

The DPRK posted:

Thanks for that.

So how would looser human rights laws play in to that? Would it result in fewer terrorist attacks in your view? At what cost?
There have been a few high profile cases where the Government has wanted to deport people on the basis of terrorism laws, but it would be illegal under our human rights laws because a - there was a risk of torture at the destination or b - in Abu Qatada's case, there was a risk that evidence obtained previously through torture might be used against him. This has led to a perception - fuelled by the Mail and others - that drat lefty liberal human rights laws are the only thing stopping the government from deporting all the bad terrorists that they know about. There are also a good chunk of people who genuinely believe that anyone that is a "person of interest" (you know like an innocent shopkeeper that happens to chat every day to someone dodgy) should lose all of their rights to privacy, freedom, etc and be rounded up and put in prison/deported/executed, but it's those drat human rights laws that are stopping this from happening.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

forkboy84 posted:

No, they would rather a disastrous Brexit because that increases the chance of independence.

Couldn't they face a pretty terrible blowback if they're kingmakers and it leads to an even shittier Brexit?

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Zephro posted:

Maybe, but it'd be a significant obstacle to any agreement
Not that it matters because we're strapping in and going full Tory, hail satan

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
I can't believe that they didn't, even though that was the official line that was being pushed pretty hard.

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

TheRat posted:

You know them better than I do, but this strikes me as very harsh

They might privately "want" it but not politically- they would lost a lot of support if they actually didn't prop up the better anti-Tory option.

Spuckuk
Aug 11, 2009

Being a bastard works



Zephro posted:

The SNP and Labour disagree on the single most important issue currently facing the country

The price of a pint?

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Couldn't they face a pretty terrible blowback if they're kingmakers and it leads to an even shittier Brexit?
I don't think it would lead to an even shittier brexit for Europe to see two parties that don't really want it and have materialistic aims at the negotiating table.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

O_o

https://twitter.com/RupertMyers/status/872459653363486720

Saros
Dec 29, 2009

Its almost like we're a Bureaucracy, in space!

I set sail for the Planet of Lab Requisitions!!

Zephro posted:

Maybe, but it'd be a significant obstacle to any agreement

Maybe, i'd like to think that the fact that the SNP isn't exactly going to expand much beyond what it already is seat-wise they would prefer a workable agreement with them holding some power rather than risking losing it all on another election.

I had to explain the UK's voting system to a bunch of new arrival Kiwi's yesterday, every last one was aghast haha, FPTP truly is the shittiest of systems.

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

jBrereton posted:

I don't think it would lead to an even shittier brexit for Europe to see two parties that don't really want it and have materialistic aims at the negotiating table.

Sorry, I meant if they chose not to guarantee Corbyn supply and let in the Tories. Wouldn't most Scots see right through that as a really loving poo poo thing to do?

GEORGE W BUSHI
Jul 1, 2012

Al-Saqr posted:

ITS SO loving UNFAIR ITS LIKE TORIES HAVE A MAGIC INVINCIBILITY SHIELD OF FUCKHEADS LIKE WHY CANT LABOUR EVER CATCH A loving BREAK gently caress.

Jeremy Corbyn would likely end up Prime Minister if that seat projection comes to fruition.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Couldn't they face a pretty terrible blowback if they're kingmakers and it leads to an even shittier Brexit?

They totally could. But the people in charge of the SNP are some of the most competent political operators in the country (a low barrier at this point I'll grant you) & I'm sure they know how to avoid that blowback. You just do things like Sturgeon pretending that Kezia Dugdale had promised to drop opposition to a second referendum after Brexit was done.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Ague Proof posted:

Does anyone else think it's wrong that one of the major parties (obviously supported by the mods) is on the top and the other below it? It's clearly rigged. I had to go through a dozen third party spoiler votes just to find Pissflaps, which is "conveniently" at the very bottom. I wonder how many people were turned off by it, or couldn't find it on the polls?

It's all rigged.

Also I don't think Pissflaps is even running a candidate in my constituency. I might have to put an X for 'no' in the Labour box just as a 'gently caress you' to the Corbyknights. Owen Smith would have won.
If Labour was in a different position it might not be red, and that would be just terrible. Nobody likes Blue Labour.

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

This is a pretty good read: (long thread)

https://twitter.com/MxJackMonroe/status/872419798017245184

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

Dunno, Rubert, we should probably wait for the results before deciding.

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Al-Saqr posted:

ITS SO loving UNFAIR ITS LIKE TORIES HAVE A MAGIC INVINCIBILITY SHIELD OF FUCKHEADS LIKE WHY CANT LABOUR EVER CATCH A loving BREAK gently caress.

Before you blow your lid completely, you should remember that a) this is a pretty good result for Labour and b) the margins of error are big.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Sorry, I meant if they chose not to guarantee Corbyn supply and let in the Tories. Wouldn't most Scots see right through that as a really loving poo poo thing to do?
Oh right, gently caress knows. Might be a final gently caress you to the union especially if Theresa stays on and runs the Indyref campaign with the same aplomb as this election.

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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Verizian posted:

If accurate this is a win. Current seats are 330 Tory and 229 Labour, Tories were already saying if May doesn't gain them 80 or more seats she'd be out in weeks and if they can only scrape together a minority Then it's either another election with Corbyn still on the rise or they have to deal with Brexit while relying on other parties to pass votes in parliament. Even the indignity of PM Bozza would be worth it to watch him stumble through, begging for votes like scraps.

Especially as Boris and Trump hate each other like equally charged magnets.

If it's accurate (it's really, really not, but let's dream) it's also about the most hilarious possible outcome because - assuming SNP won't give them a C&S agreement - it leaves the Tories reliant on a rainbow coalition just to get a Queen's Speech passed, and basically legislatively hamstrung. In other words, the weakest and most unstable position it's possible for a Prime Minister to be.

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