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Red Red Blue posted:The story has many good, sometimes even great moments, but so much of it is buried under large amounts of tedium and has spots where it drags so loving hard. It all comes down to how much of that poo poo you can deal with The worst is that after enduring all the stupid fetch quest the game rewards you with a big gently caress you red quest mark. Time to grind those snore-inducing low lvl dungeons to be able to continue the story.
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Thundarr posted:Ideally you create a big enough threat lead on all targets that you don't need to worry about it. This sometimes needs to be played by ear based on the competence of your current party, your gear + skill level, and the things you are fighting. And if your DPS do that annoying thing where they're barely restrained putton-pushing-numbers-making machines and start attacking stuff while I'm still in the 'AoE to get initial aggro, position them for maximum curbstomping, build solid AoE threat' phase of doing my tanking job. They can rip enmity from me by doing that. At least they have the decency to not complain about doing so!
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Pigbottom posted:The worst is that after enduring all the stupid fetch quest the game rewards you with a big gently caress you red quest mark. Time to grind those snore-inducing low lvl dungeons to be able to continue the story. That is frustrating but the game does a decent enough job of telling you where to go or giving you suggestions for leveling. I kind of wish the Recommended Duty tool wasn't restricted to the zone you're in and showed you options across all maps for your level band.
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Jun 7, 2017 20:38
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Holyshoot posted:Nah, ffxiv threat bar is garbage. This could finally change in next patch.
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Jun 7, 2017 20:38
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yshtolas not dead lol she just got hit then had blood in her mouth by that logic alisaie is dead too
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EponymousMrYar posted:Ya'll complain about the trailer doing what the trailer is supposed to do (it's called FORESHADOWING and it replaces the surprise of 'OH MAN THAT THING HAPPENED' to the surprise of 'OH MY FREAKING GOD THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT AHHHHHHH') while I sit here and laugh with glee at the Imperial March at the beginning being a retread of the Baron March/theme from FF2/4. I know! That imperial anthem is some serious USSR poo poo, and I love it. E: Also, that goddess fight (Lakshmi??) looks rad as balls.
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Jinh posted:They should force you to do it a couple times. Other games mainly wow have made threat not an issue ever. FFXIV treats threat like TBC days. And they also need to get rid of over healing causing threat cause IMO that is stupid. The % options falls apart when you're 8 mins into a fight and the tank is at 900k and the dps are at 810k threat. They are technically behind by 10% but it takes quite a bit of moves to gain 90k threat. Where as at the start you're at 100k and the dps are at 90k and that is also 10% behind but is one or two moves to over take you. They need to just give us numbers like the ACT enimity list gives you. I really hope ACT doesn't break when SB comes out or is fixed quickly. Thundarr posted:Ideally you create a big enough threat lead on all targets that you don't need to worry about it. This sometimes needs to be played by ear based on the competence of your current party, your gear + skill level, and the things you are fighting. Except if I'm a drk I'm eventually going to be over taken at some point in threat doing my dps combo. So I'd like to know the exact moment I need to pop off a power slash, which ACT lets me do. Those bars do not.
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Also if you're just starting, play on Excalibur. You might have to make your character at 7am, but the support network that the 3 goon guilds has is pretty great.
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Farg posted:yshtolas not dead lol she just got hit then had blood in her mouth I'm glad Y'shtola and Alisaie are dead.
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Wacky Delly posted:Also if you're just starting, play on Excalibur. You might have to make your character at 7am, but the support network that the 3 goon guilds has is pretty great. I was able to make a character last Friday at about 9:00PM, but with new people coming back this may not be the case. Gaming with Goons is way more fun and people can help you out with baby starter gear. I'm new too.
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bit of a weird choice to have alphinaud off raubahn, but hell, it sure sets a tone
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Holyshoot posted:Except if I'm a drk I'm eventually going to be over taken at some point in threat doing my dps combo. So I'd like to know the exact moment I need to pop off a power slash, which ACT lets me do. Those bars do not. Not disagreeing that the enmity tracking tools we have now are less than ideal. EponymousMrYar posted:And if your DPS do that annoying thing where they're barely restrained putton-pushing-numbers-making machines and start attacking stuff while I'm still in the 'AoE to get initial aggro, position them for maximum curbstomping, build solid AoE threat' phase of doing my tanking job. The dps can take a punch or two until agro is solidified, meanwhile I have GL stacks to build/maintain.  (Thoughtful dps should at least open up on the target of your initial tomahawk/shield toss instead of some random thing within range) Thundarr fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Jun 7, 2017 |
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CuddlyZombie posted:Yeah, something like this would be perfect. Do expert tanks just cycle through all enemies to check the size of the number 2 thread bar, or do they build up enough of a lead that it's not something to even proactively worry at? I do this, but I think it's because I'm a terrible tank, not an expert. Plus Paladins have way less AoE (for now  ) so I can't spam anything really.
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i can't believe the WOL is a primal alphinaud summoned based off his imaginary friend from his childhood
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Vargatron posted:I was able to make a character last Friday at about 9:00PM, but with new people coming back this may not be the case. Gaming with Goons is way more fun and people can help you out with baby starter gear. I'm new too. Can you transfer to Excalibur?
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Jun 7, 2017 20:50
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although yshtola is dead, she will be immortalized by that cool nude drawing alphinaud made
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Jun 7, 2017 20:50
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Oh gently caress that trailer HELLS OPEN, HEAVEN WEEPS
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SonicRulez posted:I do this, but I think it's because I'm a terrible tank, not an expert. Plus Paladins have way less AoE (for now Nah, it's actually a better thing to do as a tank than lazily spam AoE's. Thundarr posted:The dps can take a punch or two until agro is solidified, meanwhile I have GL stacks to build/maintain. Except sometimes it's the SCH dotting and Bane-ing and I can't ignore that like I can a dps.
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Farg posted:although yshtola is dead, she will be immortalized by that cool nude drawing alphinaud made the next fan art promotion will be for nude drawings of y'shtola
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LOCUST FART HELL posted:the next fan art promotion will be for nude drawings of y'shtola *hovers hand over Google Search for "Y'shtola nudes"* 
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Jun 7, 2017 20:53
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 That is one awesome Level 3 Limit Break. 
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Jun 7, 2017 20:54
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Farg posted:although yshtola is dead, she will be immortalized by that cool nude drawing alphinaud made She has a easy out though, ever since she was pulled out the aether in HW. She's probably more aether than catte, so a regular death wouldn't finish her off.
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Jun 7, 2017 20:54
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do not forget that it is CANON that alphinuad is always thinking about the time he saw yshtola nude
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Firstborn posted:My wife kind of wants to play, too. Is there no trial version for Mac? Mac support is kind of flimsy. As I recall, they redid a bunch of stuff for it around HW and didn't bother to go back to make a good version of the base game. As a result, I guess they also didn't bother to make a demo. I'm not 100% sure on that, though. Your best bet is to let her play on your computer a bit and see if she likes it. If you're absolute desperate, you can look up Wine with staging for Mac OS. If you can get that to install/build properly, you can use it to run the Windows demo with pretty good results. A lot of work for a demo, though.
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I'm pretty disappointed that it looks like we'll be fighting Lakshmi, rather than defending her against Garlean troops like people were speculating.
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Fister Roboto posted:I'm pretty disappointed that it looks like we'll be fighting Lakshmi, rather than defending her against Garlean troops like people were speculating. Even if they're nice we gotta kill the Primals. Maybe she'll be like Ramuh and she goes "Yeah, I gotta go but I have to go down fighting"
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Dr Pepper posted:Even if they're nice we gotta kill the Primals. Or she'll be completely like Ramuh and be like 'ok yeah Beard-daddy was right, you got this. I'ma just gonna chill out here ya'll. Hey you follower guys, these guys are cool and good and strong, be nice to them. Peace.'
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EponymousMrYar posted:Or she'll be completely like Ramuh and be like 'ok yeah Beard-daddy was right, you got this. I'ma just gonna chill out here ya'll. Hey you follower guys, these guys are cool and good and strong, be nice to them. Peace.' Their very existence is a constant drain of aether from Hydaelyn. Good or not, chill or not, they have to be destroyed. And Ramuh dissipates when you beat him, knowing that things are in capable hands. He just gets resummoned for round 2.
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More to the point, did you see the footage of the fight? With the lotus flowers and the giant lady? That's why we gotta fight the primals. Because it's a good way for the art team to trip out and do something super cool. E: Or chrysanthemum or whatever
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They're also a good excuse for Koji Fox to make up lyrics for a song.
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Farg posted:although yshtola is dead, she will be immortalized by that cool nude drawing alphinaud made What?
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Fighting Primals: It's good for everyone.
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Farg posted:do not forget that it is CANON that alphinuad is always thinking about the time he saw yshtola nude alphinaud is a horn dog who apparently hit on all the girls back in magic academy, including krile
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Jun 7, 2017 21:11
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if Susano, Lord of the Revel's theme isn't ska i'm gonna kill soken
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Fister Roboto posted:I'm pretty disappointed that it looks like we'll be fighting Lakshmi https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnsiZOJjfUg
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It's true but never shown. there's also a drawing of nude thancred floating around with a nutkin used as a dignity leaf.
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A drawing? An in-game cutscene still, you mean.
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Oh right I'm fuzzy on the deets, I'll have to set it as my wallpaper when I get home to remember for next time it's brought up.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:They're also a good excuse for Koji Fox to make up lyrics for a song. all that i ask for in this game is a primal phase transition that can match the sheer hype factor of shiva's
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dmboogie posted:all that i ask for in this game is a primal phase transition that can match the sheer hype factor of shiva's Still my favorite although a lot of people like the first song better. It's an amazing transition!
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