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Guy Goodbody posted:So once again I'm right. If Nintendo wants to make a cheaper handheld, they can just sell the Switch without the dock. bing bing bong so simple This will probably happen eventually. Just different units with the dock either included or the dock sold separately with a $50 gap.
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I really don't know what to tell you, dude. There's other people besides me who have posted about the teardowns that remark on how this thing is manufactured. I'm not sure the body of evidence is on your side here.
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Jun 7, 2017 21:59
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post one piece of evidence a nintendo fansite throwing out random numbers is not evidence
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Jun 7, 2017 22:00
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LionArcher posted:Is a 64 gig card big enough if I plan on buying most of my games physically? Probably. Biggest game right now is Zelda which I think is ~14GB, most of the other downloadable games seem to be between 1 and 6 GB. So far I only have two physical game carts, but I dropped my Zelda cart while on an airplane and spent a good 5 minutes on my hands and knees looking for it under the seats, so bear in mind that you can avoid that situation by going digital.
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Jun 7, 2017 22:01
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Video games are a fun hobby. It's nice that people don't get really mad about games and the systems we play them on.
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Inzombiac posted:Video games are a fun hobby. reported
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Inzombiac posted:Video games are a fun hobby. In 3rd grade my then-best friend didn't talk to me for a week because my parents got me a Super NES for Christmas and he was a Sega guy.
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HyperPuma posted:post one piece of evidence You are actually the one who has posted no evidence a dock costs $5 to make. If that were true they would not be sold for the prices they are. I'm not talking about just Nintendo Switch docks. All kinds of docks like this for laptops, tablets, etc, are pretty expensive. If it were cheap you'd get them for $10 on monoprice.
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Guy Goodbody posted:So once again I'm right. If Nintendo wants to make a cheaper handheld, they can just sell the Switch without the dock. bing bing bong so simple Man, I'm liking this more and more whenever its brought up. It'd be a controller when doing multiplayer, it could allow for asynchronous gameplay again (which, admittedly, is already possible) and reducing the amount of sliding and connecting could let a neater design happen. But ultimately, it'd be the same console doing the same software.
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Argyle posted:In 3rd grade my then-best friend didn't talk to me for a week because my parents got me a Super NES for Christmas and he was a Sega guy. https://twitter.com/9_volt88/status/872224151993536512
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Al Borland Corp. posted:You are actually the one who has posted no evidence a dock costs $5 to make. If that were true they would not be sold for the prices they are. I'm not talking about just Nintendo Switch docks. All kinds of docks like this for laptops, tablets, etc, are pretty expensive. If it were cheap you'd get them for $10 on monoprice. so your evidence for how much it costs to make is the retail price
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Jun 7, 2017 22:16
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No, a link to a part by part breakdown was posted earlier. I'm not talking about the price of the dock, I'm talking about the prices of comparable products and all of their competitors. By your logic it's some huge price fixing collusion by all the electronics companies on docks.
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HyperPuma posted:so your evidence for how much it costs to make is the retail price To be fair, your counter evidence is "nah".
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Al Borland Corp. posted:No, a link to a part by part breakdown was posted earlier. I'm not talking about the price of the dock, I'm talking about the prices of comparable products and all of their competitors. By your logic it's some huge price fixing collusion by all the electronics companies on docks. https://www.ebay.com/p/?iid=131974318455&&&dispItem=1&chn=ps 12 bucks
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katkillad2 posted:This was a reasonable thought pre Switch release and a motivating factor of some people to buy the Switch in the first place, but I no longer think it's true. The 3DS isn't getting dropped immediately for the same reason Sony didn't immediately kill PS2 and more recently PS3 support. I'll happen eventually, like with the PS3 now seeing it's production end, but Nintendo and developers aren't going to rush to kill a user base like the 3DS until the switch user base is bigger.
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People laughed when the PS3 came out, initially flopped, and Sony said the system was designed to last a decade but by God they were right and that drat thing managed to outlast the Wii U. The 3DS has probably got a couple more years in the tank easy.
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Maybe my memory is hazy, but did Sony fans cry this much during the early days of PS3 when they were being thrashed?
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Yes but at least they had the power argument for the more expensive console behind them.
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TFRazorsaw posted:I really don't know what to tell you, dude. There's other people besides me who have posted about the teardowns that remark on how this thing is manufactured. I'm not sure the body of evidence is on your side here. Idk what to tell you dude but you pick really lame arguments to be wrong about. Be cool
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Jun 7, 2017 22:37
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I worry for the life of this thread friends, it seems a bit tilted today!
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TFRazorsaw posted:Also, to elaborate on what I said two posts before; for all intents and purposes, Nintendo fully believed the whole "third pillar" thing when they said it No they didn't. Do you not understand how marketing and pr works?
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Morby posted:Maybe my memory is hazy, but did Sony fans cry this much during the early days of PS3 when they were being thrashed? Probably. Hah. But one thing to remember is that PS3 owners at the time didn't care because they also had a blu-ray player included in their console when blu-ray players cost $800-1,000 at the time. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jun 7, 2017 22:42
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It also fully supported PS1 and PS2 games out of the box. I can vividly remember bringing my PS3 home, realizing that my ethernet cable was too short and not having WiFi meant that the first game I played on my fancy $600 ($700 because Canada) was the PS2 port of Deus Ex. I think it was like 2 months before I was able to connect my PS3 to the PSN and went out to get an actual PS3 game.
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Jun 7, 2017 22:43
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Morby posted:Maybe my memory is hazy, but did Sony fans cry this much ? That's just a screenshot of one person who wrote two tweets... so probably?
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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:I worry for the life of this thread friends, it seems a bit tilted today! Yeah let's talk about Arms some more instead Morby posted:Maybe my memory is hazy, but did Sony fans cry this much during the early days of PS3 when they were being thrashed? I think the "oppressed" bit is farther than the usual PS3 poster was like, but otherwise yeah there were people like that too. I do know there were some people (me included) who still liked sony but were completely baffled by the high price and lack of games until 2008 or so. There were rough patches afterwards but it helped a lot that Sony genuinely was doing a bunch of things that made the PS3 better. Really though, you can find crazy supporters like that for any console ever if you go looking at random twitter or neogaf.
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I love my Nintendo Switch and I play it almost every day. Handheld mode is my favourite but I enjoy to play it in the docked mode as well!
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Morby posted:Maybe my memory is hazy, but did Sony fans cry this much during the early days of PS3 when they were being thrashed? You have no idea
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It was pretty awesome watching the console war live in the trenches back then.
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Nice adaptor. No charger included, eh? Also, Nintendo might have higher quality standards than some rando on eBay. Maybe.
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neither side has furnished any good evidence for their claims tbh
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The Bloop posted:Nice adaptor. No charger included, eh? Also, Nintendo might have higher quality standards than some rando on eBay. Maybe. lmao
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Jun 7, 2017 23:03
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Can we not have this discussion again? They sell the dock for $60 on its own, that presumably includes some mark-up.
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But isn't the 'Boner who realizes he's getting dunked on by Microsoft and is super pissed about it way more plugged into reality than the one queuing for days for a Master Chief Collection game (install size something like 300 gigs now) with a permanent  face?
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Captain No-mates posted:I love my Nintendo Switch and I play it almost every day. Handheld mode is my favourite but I enjoy to play it in the docked mode as well!
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Ventana posted:Yeah let's talk about Arms some more instead I was sorta out of the loop when PS3 and 360 launched. By the time I picked them up (2009 for 360 and 2010 for PS3) a lot of the PS3's issues had been resolved. That's probably why I missed the good Sony meltdowns.
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Hey 12yo me, At some point in the future you will be riding along in a train while playing Mario Kart with other people all over the continent with a portable device who's screen is nicer than the TV you're staring at. It will be amazing. -LethalGeek
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Morby posted:I was sorta out of the loop when PS3 and 360 launched. By the time I picked them up (2009 for 360 and 2010 for PS3) a lot of the PS3's issues had been resolved. That's probably why I missed the good Sony meltdowns. The ps3 memes were strong for like 3 years until the race stabilized BROWN was a fav of mine along side waggle for babby in the wii threads
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LethalGeek posted:Hey 12yo me, That future was 2005
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Captain No-mates posted:I love my Nintendo Switch and I play it almost every day. Handheld mode is my favourite but I enjoy to play it in the docked mode as well! I like tabletop mode but all modes are good friend 
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Real hurthling! posted:That future was 2005 That screen was crap 
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